Anthony Davis Requests a trade

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by blackandgold

1) AD doesn’t make the decision if he just sits out - he would lose his free agent status if he refused to play He’s on contract with the Pels through 2020
2) there’s still plenty of time for if not the Lakers but other teams to make offers
3) If the offer was so great and would have benefited the franchise how come they didn’t accept
I will answer #3 for you

- Pelicans had ALL leverage
- Pelicans best offers WILL come this summer
- Lakers had high bar in negotiations which they CANNOT meet now

ADs value is at the highest it possibly could be right now. Demps is squandering his chance to get the farm for him.

Boston is probably out at this point considering what has come out from AD and his dad about not resigning or wanting to play there, Ainge is too smart to take that risk.

I see Toronto as a real player but they probably won't mortgage the team to get him.

Nobody is going to offer anything close to what the Lakers have at this point and his value declines by the day.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by blackandgold

1) AD doesn’t make the decision if he just sits out - he would lose his free agent status if he refused to play He’s on contract with the Pels through 2020
2) there’s still plenty of time for if not the Lakers but other teams to make offers
3) If the offer was so great and would have benefited the franchise how come they didn’t accept
I will answer #3 for you

- Pelicans had ALL leverage
- Pelicans best offers WILL come this summer
- Lakers had high bar in negotiations which they CANNOT meet now

Pelicans are also ruining any chance of drawing FA in the future. No star will go there if they are not trading AD in spite and then sit him and not let him play. Franchise is looking bush league.

[pgisback]

So New Orleans didn't want Porzingis, they don't want the entire Lakers organization, what exactly do they want? I'm a huge Tatum fan but even Tatum/Rozier and couple picks isn't better than what the Lakers just offered simply because of how many assets they are getting in return.

[exoticprince]

Originally Posted by pgisback

So New Orleans didn't want Porzingis, they don't want the entire Lakers organization, what exactly do they want? I'm a huge Tatum fan but even Tatum/Rozier and couple picks isn't better than what the Lakers just offered simply because of how many assets they are getting in return.

They’re acting like they’re trading MJ in his prime

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by exoticprince

They’re acting like they’re trading MJ in his prime

I'm not sure how Demps won't be fired after this clownshow

[rats60]

Originally Posted by starvela

I hope the Lakers don’t get Davis…I’m a huge Magic and Kobe fan but hate the franchise only because of how lucky they are….Kobe forces his way to LA, how lucky of them..They get handed Shaq on a silver plater because its LA…They are irrelevant as far as winning a ring and boom they get handed the best player in the league in Lebron, on a silver platter, because it’s LA!! And they could potentially get Lebron and ADavis in back to back years, screw this, I just get frustrated with all the damn luck this franchise gets…Yes, you can call it hating, jealousy or bitterness, it’s just unfair!! Sorry, bad morning lol!!!

Don't blame them because the Knicks and Bulls front offices are terrible. They should be able to attract top free agents like the Lakers, but don't because of their own ineptitude.

[theleica]

Originally Posted by pgisback

So New Orleans didn't want Porzingis, they don't want the entire Lakers organization, what exactly do they want? I'm a huge Tatum fan but even Tatum/Rozier and couple picks isn't better than what the Lakers just offered simply because of how many assets they are getting in return.

Can the Celtics wait that long to trade Rozier? He is a restricted free agent this year.

[wharfrat7624]

So the Pelicans didn't accept an offer of Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, KCP, Hart, Zubac and two 1st round picks!

1) Pelicans are stupid
2) As a Laker fan, I'm glad Magic backed out of talks. They were giving up entirely too much for AD and I love AD!!

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by theleica

Can the Celtics wait that long to trade Rozier? He is a restricted free agent this year.

Not 100% on how it works but they probably could if he signed a QA. Even still at that point what value could he possibly have?

[aaron2]

Hoping Kyrie goes to LA this off-season.

AD gets traded to Celts.

Then AD walks and goes to LA next off-season.

Unrealistic, but would be funny.

[cowboyzqna]

Lol at the pellicans.

[pac213up]

They will go back to the table before Thursday.

[NinjaJohnny]

Beat reporters basically saying the ownership is what is calling the shots, that Demps was looking to deal but told hes not making a trade.

They want to "clean house" this summer which likely means a new GM who will do his own trade. Sounds like a lot of people involved in their FO, including the Saints Mickey Loomis, are all over the board. To me it sounds like the Pelicans have no idea what they are doing at the very top.

[cowboyzqna]

Which is another way to say "they are a dumb franchise".


Who turns down that trade? AD is gone. Get what you can for him. They got offered a kings randsom and said "make me a God's randsom offer"

Just. Dumb.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by pac213up

If they are waiting it is because they feel good about the conversation they already had with Ainge and the return he would bring.

The Lakers certainly can wait to sign him as a FA but then you are dealing with a 36 year Lebron. The pressure is on LA....not the Pelicans. They will either bring this to the very end of the trade deadline and bleed more picks out of the Lakers or they are waiting to the summer to see what other teams can come in to play. Maybe they want to see what that Knicks pick looks like.

The pressure is on LA right now. That is why they are going after AD hard right now. What is the point of giving away all of your talent to get to play with a 35 year old LeBron? Might as well wait a year, hold on to your young guys and see who you can sign in the summer and add AD the next year. That is my point, NO can wait and gamble that Ainge will over pay for a one year rental or the Knicks get #1 and are willing to give it up. In either case, the Lakers are still waiting until LeBron is 36 to sign AD. They aren't giving the same package and if the other two don't happen because NO loses leverage and has to take the best offer to get something out of AD.

That is the whole point of what is going on in NO. Their front office is debating whether to take what they know they have right now or gamble and risk getting more or less in the summer. If they wait, they lose all their leverage. They are in a position of having to move AD or lose him as a FA and get nothing back.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by pac213up

They will go back to table before Thursday.

That's what I'm thinking too. I totally understand NO wanting to play hardball, especially with the Lakers, but with the most recent offer of literally all of LA's kids, plus 2 1st's, plus getting to unload a bad contract.... You've got to take that. No matter what would happen after that, you will have won the trade. You will have taken everything LA has to offer.

There's no way that Demps wouldn't come out looking like an amazing GM if he got all of the Lakers young guys, 2 1st's, and getting rid of a bad contract for a guy that will be gone in a year and a half.

[spurs50fan]

Where was this loot when the mute wanted out?

[NinjaJohnny]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

That's what I'm thinking too. I totally understand NO wanting to play hardball, especially with the Lakers, but with the most recent offer of literally all of LA's kids, plus 2 1st's, plus getting to unload a bad contract.... You've got to take that. No matter what would happen after that, you will have won the trade. You will have taken everything LA has to offer.

There's no way that Demps wouldn't come out looking like an amazing GM if he got all of the Lakers young guys, 2 1st's, and getting rid of a bad contract for a guy that will be gone in a year and a half.

Could be a lame duck GM. Maybe the FO will cave, but right now it sounds like the GM doesn't have a say. They may be content with dealing with the Davis situation down the road, for better or for worse.

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

That's what I'm thinking too. I totally understand NO wanting to play hardball, especially with the Lakers, but with the most recent offer of literally all of LA's kids, plus 2 1st's, plus getting to unload a bad contract.... You've got to take that. No matter what would happen after that, you will have won the trade. You will have taken everything LA has to offer.

There's no way that Demps wouldn't come out looking like an amazing GM if he got all of the Lakers young guys, 2 1st's, and getting rid of a bad contract for a guy that will be gone in a year and a half.

I am just not sure the Pelicans are all that crazy about the Lakers young players involved. Maybe a 3rd team gets involved and some of them turn into other assets that the Pelicans like more.

[Texanwatson]

The pelicans are so dumb !!!!!!!! I hope LA doesnt even talk to them anymore, they got a kings ransom and turned it down, one of the dumbest things I have ever seen if a deal doesnt get done with that offer on the table

[pgisback]

Still blows my mind that not only are the Lakers willing to offer Zubac, Hart, Kuzma, Ball, and Ingram for one player, but that they are also including two firsts and taking on a bad contract, and it's still being denied. Both teams are being absolutely ridiculous, lol. I think the Lakers should be fine with the Pels turning it down and just moving on to the summer free agents.

[SethMurphy]

6 players
2 picks

for 1 guy.... i don't care how good he is.

What would that leave the Lakers with? LeBron, Rondo, Davis...... who else would even play? How do you trade 50% of your roster inthe NBA and compete? They would be trading 5 of their 7 leaders in minutes played per game right now.............

LeBron
AD
Rondo
Mo Wagner
Isaac Bonga
Lance Stephenson
JaVale McGee
Svi Mhiakuliukukuk
Michael Beasley
Tyson Chandler


that's supposed to be a winning roster?????

[irfuji]

Originally Posted by pac213up

I am just not sure the Pelicans are all that crazy about the Lakers young players involved. Maybe a 3rd team gets involved and some of them turn into other assets that the Pelicans like more.

Even if this is true you cannot possibly tell me that NO couldn't take those young guys then trade them for assets they do like.

I mean if they turned down that offer I think they're going to find getting a good GM almost impossible if ownership is the one saying no. What good GM wants to step into that kind of decision making environment....

It's looking more and more like AD is making the right decision. If these are the kinds of moves NO makes it's going to be hard to build any contender with these types of unrealistic expectations.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by irfuji

Even if this is true you cannot possibly tell me that NO couldn't take those young guys then trade them for assets they do like.

I mean if they turned down that offer I think they're going to find getting a good GM almost impossible if ownership is the one saying no. What good GM wants to step into that kind of decision making environment....

It's looking more and more like AD is making the right decision. If these are the kinds of moves NO makes it's going to be hard to build any contender with these types of unrealistic expectations.

I still think it’s a negotiation tactic by the Pels to squeeze out every last bit they can.

Just imagine what a GM could do with all those assets and some salary flexibility.

I’ll go against he grain here and say the deal still gets done this week. But ohh man,if I’m wrong, the Pels better have a monster deal lined up this summer.

[Jpayne7787]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Still blows my mind that not only are the Lakers willing to offer Zubac, Hart, Kuzma, Ball, and Ingram for one player, but that they are also including two firsts and taking on a bad contract, and it's still being denied. Both teams are being absolutely ridiculous, lol. I think the Lakers should be fine with the Pels turning it down and just moving on to the summer free agents.

My thoughts exactly, if I’m in another parallel world and hit my head and turned Lakers fan somehow, I would stop being a fan immediately if they actually gave up that much for injury prone AD. How are any Lakers fans ok with giving up literally every young asset they accumulated over the last 3-4 seasons? And NO already has Julius Randle ffs lol

Edit- Maybe Kuz,Ingram,Zubac and the draft picks, that way they’d keep Lonzo to run the point and Keep Hart. And I’d take that package over Tatum any day