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Old 06-29-2017, 01:12 AM   #2501
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Here's the great thing about him: he's incredibly smart, incredibly mature. That's what leaps out about him, reading all his scouting reports. It's evinced by his restraint at the plate, his willingness and ability to adjust.

First, he was susceptible to low and away. No longer. Recently, the White Sox tried to come in on his hands— we just saw how that game plan worked out, these last two games.

Now he's getting a rep for having a great eye, so the umps are giving him some more breaks on the low ones.

His position in the box makes it so hard to throw him effective inside strikes, because if he feels it's in on his hands when he's standing that much off the plate, he knows to take; it's a ball. He doesn't reach for anything too outside, because he knows he's not in position to reach it. That feeds and fuels his restraint on the outside stuff. When he's down 0-2, he works full counts. He's playing chess, this kid. And it's amazing to witness someone with all these physical gifts, enhanced by his mental game. And so much of this game is mental.

You take this insane Triple Crown-caliber performance, put it on the Yankee stage, add the name, the gentle giant charisma, the massive and catchy marketing campaigns, the post-Jeter landscape without a face man for the franchise, the perfect selfless attitude and character that all parents want their children to emulate, the lovable personal history with his adoption, the cartoonish lasers and moon shots, and man, we have a very special, very rare baseball player here. A budding icon. I haven't had this much fun collecting an active player since my youth with Mattingly, Gooden, and Straw. And as much as I love collecting Shoeless Joe and The Mick, I don't get to take their cards out and watch them rake live!

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Old 06-29-2017, 01:15 AM   #2502
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Hes good. Hope people sell at the asg so i can buy and watch him win mvp


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Bowman-...p2047675.l2557

. 850 for a bowman chrome auto
That was my card. I'm starting to get more comfortable in modern and learning exactly what I want now for my PC, so pruning my hoard a bit, LOL.
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Old 06-29-2017, 01:18 AM   #2503
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Ha, me too. Im debating throwing one up for auction here. I need some loot for a red before theyre 10 grand
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Old 06-29-2017, 01:30 AM   #2504
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Ha, me too. Im debating throwing one up for auction here. I need some loot for a red before theyre 10 grand
Yup. Having pivoted from vintage and PreWar, I find myself gravitating to all Judge's Heritage cards, then the 1987-style autos and Archives. Bravo to Topps, that Heritage product is fantastic. The rarities activate the collecting and hunting gene.

Got the Epson workin' now...




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Old 06-29-2017, 01:48 AM   #2505
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Trying to complete my Aaron Judge 2013 Bowman Mini Rainbow and I cant find the Purple! I will give a 20 dollar finder's fee to anyone who can find one of these for sale for me. If you own one, please contact me as I am very interested in buying or trading for it.

2013 Bowman Mini Purple Refractor/5 Aaron Judge

Help bring Purple Judge home to be with his family!

I have LOTS of quality Judge cards, including 25+ numbered auto cards. Please let me know if you have this card, know someone who does, or have a lead on where I can find one.

Still looking. If anyone can find one of these, Ive got lots of high end Judge cards id be willing to trade
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Old 06-29-2017, 02:26 AM   #2506
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Well then, i guess theyre all accounted for. Dont be surprised if they keep going up. I dont reallyknow what your original point even was. It just seems some people are bitter here... wonder why?
Haha definitely not. I've already made 5x my money on Judge Heritage and Archives autos and visit this thread daily to proclaim for love for Judge. I have a stash of very nice Judge cards that come from reading this thread since day 1. Just because I slapped your argument in the face doesn't mean you need to get cranky...there's plenty of room on the Judge train so pull up your blouse and hop on for the ride
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Old 06-29-2017, 02:26 AM   #2507
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Does he have autos in 2017 gypsy queen retail? Went to Walmart today and all they had was gypsy queen and Topps series 2 blasters.
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Old 06-29-2017, 02:28 AM   #2508
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Oh and yes, 2017 Bowman Chrome autos will decline in price when Topps Chrome and the real Bowman Chrome comes out... buy more Heritage and less 17 Bowman Chrome buddy
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Old 06-29-2017, 02:34 AM   #2509
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Topps Heritage should license this Bueller clip and run some commercials...



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Old 06-29-2017, 02:36 AM   #2510
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I got my bowman chrome cases early . I see those are starting to climb too . you just wait and see once topps posts a image of his cards for bowman chrome .......... pre sells prices are gonna be silly .
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Old 06-29-2017, 02:57 AM   #2511
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Oh and yes, 2017 Bowman Chrome autos will decline in price when Topps Chrome and the real Bowman Chrome comes out... buy more Heritage and less 17 Bowman Chrome buddy
As Houdini has said many times now, there is no more exclusive "Bowman Chrome" the way you are thinking. A player's Bowman Chrome card can (and has) come in all three Bowman products - Bowman Draft / Bowman / Bowman Chrome.

Aaron Judge's 1st RC Rookie Bowman Chrome already came out...it just so happens it came 1st in regular Bowman. And there might be a 2nd Bowman Chrome variant in Bowman Chrome; and a 3rd Bowman Chrome variant in Bowman Draft.

And I agree, Topps Chrome parallels are just plain ugly.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:33 AM   #2512
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26 homers in 76 games...

Wonder how many Maris hit in '61 through 76 games
Maris hit his 30th homerun in Game 75 and 31st in Game 77.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats12b.shtml
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:53 AM   #2513
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I actually agree with this info to this extent: He is not carrying on any sort of legacy - Yet. He is simply playing awesome baseball so far for a great team with plenty of Baseball history. He is doing well for Baseball and the hobby. We all hope he continues and helps usher in a new Yankee era.

The players mentioned: Those are cold hard facts, you can't deny that information. You are just saying that he is human and things can happen. No one is perfect but it shouldn't stop you from aiming to be perfect.

I can see how someone might see your post as rude or what not but it is not out of line and you did post facts. And also, this is just your opinion, you are entitled to share your opinion, even if in a thread predominantly filled with Judge fans.
You must have skipped over the very first statement of his post then.
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:55 AM   #2514
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You must have skipped over the very first statement of his post then.
Well that part I can care less about since it is not directed at me.
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:02 AM   #2515
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Oh and yes, 2017 Bowman Chrome autos will decline in price when Topps Chrome and the real Bowman Chrome comes out... buy more Heritage and less 17 Bowman Chrome buddy
It's not an easy task for me to just "buy more Heritage" of Judge (especially the autos) at the current price point lol
I have one blue ink auto and one RC variation (and chrome /999), so I'll stay happy with those.

We'll see what happens with the 2017 Bowman Chrome auto prices.
For avoidance of any doubt, I was not the buyer of the gold auto I mentioned yesterday nor I own base auto either. I wish I had a base.

I do have a case of Topps Chrome Hobby pre-ordered while they were still relatively low in price.
Hoping I could get a Judge auto in there.
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:17 AM   #2516
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As Houdini has said many times now, there is no more exclusive "Bowman Chrome" the way you are thinking. A player's Bowman Chrome card can (and has) come in all three Bowman products - Bowman Draft / Bowman / Bowman Chrome.

Aaron Judge's 1st RC Rookie Bowman Chrome already came out...it just so happens it came 1st in regular Bowman. And there might be a 2nd Bowman Chrome variant in Bowman Chrome; and a 3rd Bowman Chrome variant in Bowman Draft.

And I agree, Topps Chrome parallels are just plain ugly.
Yes, you are absolutely right. You don't think 3 2017 Bowman Chrome autos will water down and dilute each other? There will only be 1 Heritage Auto this year but there will possibly be 3 Bowman Chrome autos (you know there will be, Bowman is milking the Judge cow for all it's milk). Even if the current BC auto is the 1st one released this year, the other 2 that come out from the other Bowman products will also be recognized as Bowman Chrome autos. Hence the brand dilution and loss of scarcity.
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:32 AM   #2517
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Don't Make Aaron Judge Angry
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:34 AM   #2518
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"Go after Jacoby Ellsbury next time, White Sox fans. What’s he going to do, stare you down after he slaps a single up the middle?"
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:42 AM   #2519
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Yes, you are absolutely right. You don't think 3 2017 Bowman Chrome autos will water down and dilute each other? There will only be 1 Heritage Auto this year but there will possibly be 3 Bowman Chrome autos (you know there will be, Bowman is milking the Judge cow for all it's milk). Even if the current BC auto is the 1st one released this year, the other 2 that come out from the other Bowman products will also be recognized as Bowman Chrome autos. Hence the brand dilution and loss of scarcity.
There might be more bowman Chrome autos in the other releases, but think about it, the Yankees are one of the most successful franchises around and have a huge fan base. If Judge continues his onslaught it really will not matter. Prices on everything will increase because new money will come into the hobby and those will not be flipped but put into PC. Judge prices might not ever get to Trout levels, but if they plateau at around 400 per that will be great for the hobby. Besides some of the cards, 2013 Chrome, Heritage, FFA white will be out of reach for many who want an Auto of him. I am simply enjoying the ride since I pulled my 2017 Bowman Chrome from a pack.
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:43 AM   #2520
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HAHAHAHA... Judge just handles himself so well... doesn't argue with or stare down umps... now throwing of helmets etc... and if you give him crap, he just send the ball out of the park.

Can't pitch to him, can't heckle him... Judgement Daze...
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:56 AM   #2521
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In regard to Judges Bowman autos. Just how many Versions are there?

So many parallels... Bowman, Draft and chrome, all the colors etc.

You have Gypsy, black, missing black plate, name, solid black, purple etc.

Archives, base, peach and blue, along with the Bazooka and rookie star...

When all is said and done Heritage is the winner in my opinion if you want a more SP auto and without all the gimmicks. Heritage... blue ink and the SP red ink... that's it. Not a different colored card or refractor, just the auto changes.

I get it if you cannot afford a Heritage and want an auto, trust me... I wish I could even afford any of the other autos. When it comes to talking about which auto will be the best... well you have visual tastes which vary from person to person, but to say all those others are more rare than his Heritage I think is a bit of a stretch. H is not the prettiest looking auto... but I am willing to bet it will be the most expensive in the long run, and by default the most coveted auto.
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:02 AM   #2522
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Yes, you are absolutely right. You don't think 3 2017 Bowman Chrome autos will water down and dilute each other? There will only be 1 Heritage Auto this year but there will possibly be 3 Bowman Chrome autos (you know there will be, Bowman is milking the Judge cow for all it's milk). Even if the current BC auto is the 1st one released this year, the other 2 that come out from the other Bowman products will also be recognized as Bowman Chrome autos. Hence the brand dilution and loss of scarcity.
As Houdini has also mentioned in that same posting, any further Aaron Judge Bowman Chrome variants in "Bowman Chrome" would probably be 1 in every 20 cases (it's 1 in every 7 cases with "regular Bowman"); and 1 in every 50 cases for "Bowman Draft". There wouldn't be much of any dilution. In fact, it may actually do the opposite to the Aaron Judge Bowman Chrome RC in "regular Bowmen" due to the rarity of the pulls in the other bowman products.
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:06 AM   #2523
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As Houdini has also mentioned in that same posting, any further Aaron Judge Bowman Chrome variants in "Bowman Chrome" would probably be 1 in every 20 cases (it's 1 in every 7 cases with "regular Bowman"); and 1 in every 50 cases for "Bowman Draft". There wouldn't be much of any dilution. In fact, it may actually do the opposite to the Aaron Judge Bowman Chrome RC in "regular Bowmen" due to the rarity of the pulls in the other bowman products.
If Topps runs the presses yes it will... just because it might be in fewer cases, the difference is made up in overall production. Topps already has the history of over production of their product, right? And as smart as Houdini is, it is still just a guess...
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:10 AM   #2524
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102 pages is too many to wade through, but i told you guys long ago that Heritage is king
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:17 AM   #2525
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I do think these arguments over which auto is supreme is funny as most people buy what they can either afford and looks good to them. I know it may be shocking to some but I know collectors who despise the 68 set design and won't buy any of the autos.

Conversely they love the 83 design and only want the Archives auto.

This is how collectors collect, not based on print runs or what is "THE" auto to have.

Also I wish we would stop money shaming collectors. Most people have budgets and if you think your a big baller by buying Judge Heritage autos that's kinda sad.
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