Star Co. Basketball is Hottt! - Page 5

Hellcat · 08-07-2022, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by r338

The PSA 9 OC sold for $31200.

Not bad but it was probably a old label. I haven’t see the card. PSA has done away with qualifiers for the most part. A PSA 7 presents so much better without the qualifier.

r338 · 08-07-2022, 03:18 PM

Old label. Great looking card aside from the taller top border.

The PSA 8 was also old label. Somewhat weak corners, edges and centering for a PSA 8.

Hellcat · 08-07-2022, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by r338

Old label. Great looking card aside from the taller top border.

The PSA 8 was also old label. Somewhat weak corners, edges and centering for a PSA 8.

Perfect centering by Stars standards is 50/50 side to side but top to bottom the top is supposed to be thick and no border on the bottom of the card very strange guidelines. Doesn’t look right to the eye but that’s what they intended at production.

r338 · 08-07-2022, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellcat

Perfect centering by Stars standards is 50/50 side to side but top to bottom the top is supposed to be thick and no border on the bottom of the card very strange guidelines. Doesn’t look right to the eye but that’s what they intended at production.

Maybe so, but that is the reason the PSA 9 got the OC qualifier.

I actually prefer the larger top border if the bottom border is the same. The card is several mm’s bigger than other cards.

k13 · 08-07-2022, 06:41 PM

How much is a 1984 star sealed all star bag worth?

Is Psa grading all star cards now or just Jordan's?

Hellcat · 08-07-2022, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

How much is a 1984 star sealed all star bag worth?

Is Psa grading all star cards now or just Jordan's?

Depends on the condition of the 101 in the bag. Thankfully it’s on top and you can appraise then. The problem is they slid around and the corners and edges got damaged. All 84-85 Star cards they’re grading right now will open up later years down the road.

k13 · 08-07-2022, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellcat

Depends on the condition of the 101 in the bag. Thankfully it’s on top and you can appraise then. The problem is they slid around and the corners and edges got damaged. All 84-85 Star cards they’re grading right now will open up later years down the road.

Its the 25 card all star set.
No Jordan.

Isiah Thomas on front.

Hellcat · 08-07-2022, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

Its the 25 card all star set.
No Jordan.

Isiah Thomas on front.

Oh my bad I didn’t catch the “all-star” team set.

Hellcat · 08-08-2022, 08:27 AM

PSA 8 101 just sold for 116k with Goldin. So yeah I figured it would bring close to 100k. Good news for the 57s though if you’re in the market for one it’s going to get cheaper to acquire one.

pcptrade · 08-08-2022, 09:35 AM

A BGS 8.5 (pop 251) sold for 36K with BP in the same auction. Looks like the owners of Star 101 in BGS slabs will not see much appreciation until they take the risk of crossing theirs to PSA. Thanks to the recent PSA 8 sales in six figures, the crossover fees will be significant even if it does not meet a minimum grade. Until then, there will be plenty of Star 101 in BGS slabs and PSA 6 -7 available for sale on ebay since they will be considered less desirable compared to PSA 8 and above. Any card with print run of more than 100 will be tough to manipulate in the current market with limited inflow of new money. The current PSA 8 pop is 4 and once it hits more than 10, it will be interesting to see if the influencers will still scoop them up for six figures. As the PSA pop increases, it will become tough to manipulate the prices. I would not be surprised to see a thread next year on drop in the Star 101 prices, similar to many other pump and dump threads.

90skid · 08-08-2022, 10:23 AM

Current State of the PSA Pop Jordan 101's - figure it'll be good to get a historical timestamp for folks to reference here on the forums in the future.

k13 · 08-08-2022, 05:10 PM

Stockton Fleer rookie psa 7 is $25
Stock Star rookie bgs 7 is $400

ReggieBush22 · 08-08-2022, 07:41 PM

There's like 20 graded 1984 Star Jordans on Ebay right now. That's pretty crazy, people who had these for years probably cashing out right now.

rj.cataldo · 08-08-2022, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieBush22

There's like 20 graded 1984 Star Jordans on Ebay right now. That's pretty crazy, people who had these for years probably cashing out right now.

Look closer - a good majority of those cards are fraudulent listings associated to a hacked account southweststeam1. There’s about 20 1951 Mantles of for sale as well under same account - along with a number of other highly desirable and rare cards.

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Spfld Ponies · 08-09-2022, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rj.cataldo

Look closer - a good majority of those cards are fraudulent listings associated to a hacked account southweststeam1. There’s about 20 1951 Mantles of for sale as well under same account - along with a number of other highly desirable and rare cards.

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True, gotta consider the seller: when a listing has a picture that says, in effect, " don't bid on this item, instead go to some website to purchase it" you know its a hacked account. These are popping up too often on eBay.

Some great listings from Probstein with Star cards. Love him, hate him, he moves nice product.

r338 · 08-09-2022, 12:28 PM

Another $24K sale for a BGS 8 101 by Probstein last night.

For all the hype surrounding this card, it seems not a huge increase in price outside the PSA examples.

rustywest · 08-09-2022, 12:29 PM

Nobody tells me what is hot, that's it son. I make a distinction based on my two eyes if a card is hot

GOATcards · 08-09-2022, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by r338

Another $24K sale for a BGS 8 101 by Probstein last night.

For all the hype surrounding this card, it seems not a huge increase in price outside the PSA examples.

low subgrades, obvious corner-wear, bad centering, etc.?

90skid · 08-09-2022, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATcards

low subgrades, obvious corner-wear, bad centering, etc.?

Yes if you go to that listing and look at the up close zoom of the photos there is NO WAY PSA is giving that an 8, if someone thought they'd buy it crack it out and send to PSA for a cash grab. That's why it went "cheap"...

mvp · 08-09-2022, 03:41 PM

Can someone explain to me where / if the 5x7 Supers fit into all this? I have an Olajuwon and a Barkley, with the former graded by BGS. I believe this was both their rookies years?

Spfld Ponies · 08-09-2022, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mvp

Can someone explain to me where / if the 5x7 Supers fit into all this? I have an Olajuwon and a Barkley, with the former graded by BGS. I believe this was both their rookies years?

Sure, those are low print run rookie year cards. Not considered RC's or XRC's but they are awesome products printed before the second year base card set.

They never got the hobby love they deserved, but certain 5x7s are selling at strong prices right now. There's a half dozen or so that get over $500 graded 8.5 or higher. The Jordans are in the thousands.

r338 · 08-09-2022, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 90skid

Yes if you go to that listing and look at the up close zoom of the photos there is NO WAY PSA is giving that an 8, if someone thought they'd buy it crack it out and send to PSA for a cash grab. That's why it went "cheap"...

The BGS 8 101 in Goldin went for $24K also a few days ago.

Maybe that is just what they sell for now, even with all the pumping going on.

Springerj23 · 08-09-2022, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by r338

The BGS 8 101 in Goldin went for $24K also a few days ago.

Maybe that is just what they sell for now, even with all the pumping going on.

You guys have short term memories. BGS 8.5 101s could be had pre 2020 for $7500ish. The Last Dance boom and 2021 bubble pushed these to the stratosphere, several sold north of $60K. I owned 2 and sold in January 21 for $92K total.; Should have kept the better of the 2 but there is no looking back now. $25-30K are strong sales for these. Waiting to see if a 9 will pop. My personal opinion is 1 at best. PSA 8.5 may be the ceiling for these. I don’t think PSA will treat the centering as anything other than average. The best centered 101s are not centered. Pretty simple.

AnkurJ · 08-09-2022, 10:22 PM

What’s with the seller posting saying to email to purchase? They listed multiples and of course the listing is pulled. Perhaps hijacked accounts?

2010GBPackers · 08-10-2022, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 90skid

Yes if you go to that listing and look at the up close zoom of the photos there is NO WAY PSA is giving that an 8, if someone thought they'd buy it crack it out and send to PSA for a cash grab. That's why it went "cheap"...

Yeah, and that's the thing with these cards. The BGS grade means next to nothing mainly due to the fact that many of the grades they gave out were either over/underinflated based on the centering grade. And since they were so inconsistent with the centering grade, there are BGS 7's that could be PSA 8's and BGS 8's that might be PSA 6's. Hell, go look at that PSA 4 that was just listed. Looks better than most BGS 8's I've seen!

08-08-2022, 09:35 AM	#110
pcptrade Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 7,630	A BGS 8.5 (pop 251) sold for 36K with BP in the same auction. Looks like the owners of Star 101 in BGS slabs will not see much appreciation until they take the risk of crossing theirs to PSA. Thanks to the recent PSA 8 sales in six figures, the crossover fees will be significant even if it does not meet a minimum grade. Until then, there will be plenty of Star 101 in BGS slabs and PSA 6 -7 available for sale on ebay since they will be considered less desirable compared to PSA 8 and above. Any card with print run of more than 100 will be tough to manipulate in the current market with limited inflow of new money. The current PSA 8 pop is 4 and once it hits more than 10, it will be interesting to see if the influencers will still scoop them up for six figures. As the PSA pop increases, it will become tough to manipulate the prices. I would not be surprised to see a thread next year on drop in the Star 101 prices, similar to many other pump and dump threads. __________________ Jealousy is a form of hatred built on Insecurity. It's the unhappy and insecure people who show hatred, jealousy and try to bring others down. Instagram:icollector23, Flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/144335251@N08/albums Last edited by pcptrade; 08-08-2022 at 07:07 PM. Reason: PSA 8 Pop

08-09-2022, 03:41 PM	#120
mvp Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 783 diamond_d7	Can someone explain to me where / if the 5x7 Supers fit into all this? I have an Olajuwon and a Barkley, with the former graded by BGS. I believe this was both their rookies years? __________________ Looking for Josh Green rookies

08-07-2022, 03:18 PM	#102
r338 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 383	Old label. Great looking card aside from the taller top border. The PSA 8 was also old label. Somewhat weak corners, edges and centering for a PSA 8.

08-07-2022, 06:41 PM	#105
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	How much is a 1984 star sealed all star bag worth? Is Psa grading all star cards now or just Jordan's?

08-08-2022, 08:27 AM	#109
Hellcat Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 2,312	PSA 8 101 just sold for 116k with Goldin. So yeah I figured it would bring close to 100k. Good news for the 57s though if you’re in the market for one it’s going to get cheaper to acquire one.

08-08-2022, 10:23 AM	#111
90skid Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,796	Current State of the PSA Pop Jordan 101's - figure it'll be good to get a historical timestamp for folks to reference here on the forums in the future.

08-08-2022, 05:10 PM	#112
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Stockton Fleer rookie psa 7 is $25 Stock Star rookie bgs 7 is $400

08-08-2022, 07:41 PM	#113
ReggieBush22 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,546 lionpride	There's like 20 graded 1984 Star Jordans on Ebay right now. That's pretty crazy, people who had these for years probably cashing out right now.

08-09-2022, 12:28 PM	#116
r338 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 383	Another $24K sale for a BGS 8 101 by Probstein last night. For all the hype surrounding this card, it seems not a huge increase in price outside the PSA examples.

08-09-2022, 12:29 PM	#117
rustywest Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 2,688	Nobody tells me what is hot, that's it son. I make a distinction based on my two eyes if a card is hot

08-09-2022, 10:22 PM	#124
AnkurJ Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 81 Faceittiger42	What’s with the seller posting saying to email to purchase? They listed multiples and of course the listing is pulled. Perhaps hijacked accounts?