True Rookie Card is What??

[BigSeph]

Originally Posted by jplarson

If you don't like it you can always move. People have the freedom to have whatever mindset they want when it comes to what a rookie card is.

You can pretend a 5th year Bryce Harper is his RC all you want.

Don't expect anyone to take you or your opinion seriously.

[BigSeph]

Originally Posted by Bcr

I mean... I would rather be able to form my own opinion rather than have someone else tell me what to think.

Every argument ultimately ends in an appeal to authority.

Every. Single. One.

No argument carried out to its logical conclusion can end with "MUH FEELZ" as a closer.

So it really boils down to who your authority is on this topic.

Is it Topps?

Is it Beckett?

Is it Blowout?

Is it some guy on Youtube?

You did not enter this world with an ironclad idea of what a rookie card is, that perspective was honed over time and experience and input from others. Ultimately someone is telling you what a rookie card is or has told you what a rookie card is, and you are pretending that's not the case.

[BigSeph]

Originally Posted by Jolten Joe

plus there is a reason they are labeled BP and BCP and not BR and BCR

[BambinoShuffle]

[BlowoutBuzz]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Ironic that this wrong take talks about wrong takes.

There is no universal definition of rookie card, nor any definitive source for such a definition. Anyone claiming there is is engaging in the fallacy of appealing to authority, an authority that doesn't exist.

Please don't interject this thread with that debate, when OP is clearly just trying to learn the lay of the land and understand what cards in baseball are the most collectible. Someone's definition of "true rookie" card is completely irrelevant to that discussion.

meh.

[LVDan]

The Ohio lawyer is right.
Whatever floats your boat is the choice
According to Hoyle
Logo love
1st is best
Your $, your cards, your preference.

[oldgoldy97]

Imma pick up a 2023 Topps gold foil Mike Trout rookie card tomorrow.

[BlowoutBuzz]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Imma pick up a 2023 Topps gold foil Mike Trout rookie card tomorrow.

They are the bestest.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

yea, the "Rookie Card" talk can get pretty heated around here.

for me, these would be their "go to" Rookie Cards if they have more than one Rookie Card (Wander and JRod only have one Rookie Card, it's 2021 Bowman's Best), and someone had to only own one.

Trout: 2011 Flagship Update #US175
Ohtani: 2018 Flagship #700

Not a great example utilizing Ohtani. If you are searching for his first true RC, then you would need to go back to 2013 for a Japanese card. Japanese players who make it to the US, are most likely going to have a card produced.

[hermanotarjeta]

OP, whatever “rookie” card you choose to collect, if a player does well, his cards across the board will be in higher demand and will become more valuable.

I think there is a general consensus about that.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Not a great example utilizing Ohtani. If you are searching for his first true RC, then you would need to go back to 2013 for a Japanese card. Japanese players who make it to the US, are most likely going to have a card produced.

that's fair.

BBM stuff gets wild for sure!

[mc1]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Not a great example utilizing Ohtani. If you are searching for his first true RC, then you would need to go back to 2013 for a Japanese card. Japanese players who make it to the US, are most likely going to have a card produced.

Nah, only American releases by companies in America count.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Imma pick up a 2023 Topps gold foil Mike Trout rookie card tomorrow.

2018-19 Optic Lebron James Lakers RC FTW

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by BigSeph

You don't have psychic powers and can't predict the future.

I get a kick out the way you felt the need to state that as fact, as if someone may think that I can. It’s just my opinion, dude. You’re a hoot in these threads. I’m sorry your 21BB isn’t going to make you rich. Maybe just buy cards for fun from now on…? Personally, I own massive stash of Jazz Chisholm cards I’ll never see a return on. I still enjoy looking through them on a regular basis.

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I get a kick out the way you felt the need to state that as fact, as if someone may think that I can. It’s just my opinion, dude. You’re a hoot in these threads. I’m sorry your 21BB isn’t going to make you rich. Maybe just buy cards for fun from now on…? Personally, I own massive stash of Jazz Chisholm cards I’ll never see a return on. I still enjoy looking through them on a regular basis.

Eventually, at one point everyone will realize he was right and regret not listening. Just like those darn Finest Kobe RCs when they should have been buying chromes.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by LVDan

Eventually, at one point everyone will realize he was right and regret not listening. Just like those darn Finest Kobe RCs when they should have been buying chromes.

Haha… yeah.

But hey, if he’s right and I’m wrong… I win. So it’s all good.

[Tom Oates]

Yeah, no real answer. Used to be if it was an "update" or "extended" set it wasn't a true RC. AND... I said AND... if it was an insert it was NOT a RC. Now you see every insert known to man with the RC logo on it. It's pretty much a pile of hot garbage. If you like the way a card looks, buy it. If not... move on.

[hermanotarjeta]

What is Mark McGwire’a true rookie card?

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

OP, whatever “rookie” card you choose to collect, if a player does well, his cards across the board will be in higher demand and will become more valuable.

I think there is a general consensus about that.

So collect what you think everybody else wants, regardless of team or player.

Sounds like a sure-fire strategy to become both poor and unhappy.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

So collect what you think everybody else wants, regardless of team or player.

Sounds like a sure-fire strategy to become both poor and unhappy.

Isn’t that what the pursuit in collecting is about? To have something others don’t?

That makes some people happy and proud. And sometimes rich.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

What is Mark McGwire’a true rookie card?

he only has one Rookie Card

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Isn’t that what the pursuit in collecting is about? To have something others don’t?

That makes some people happy and proud. And sometimes rich.

That is one aspect of collecting not the whole shebang. Otherwise no one would collect commons, sets, or anything else not numbered, limited, or exclusive.

If all it's about is owning something no one else has, might as well invest in NFTs.

[BigSeph]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I get a kick out the way you felt the need to state that as fact, as if someone may think that I can. It’s just my opinion, dude. You’re a hoot in these threads. I’m sorry your 21BB isn’t going to make you rich. Maybe just buy cards for fun from now on…? Personally, I own massive stash of Jazz Chisholm cards I’ll never see a return on. I still enjoy looking through them on a regular basis.

You made an assertion about a future outcome as though it was a fact.

I said you don't have psychic powers.

You don't know what the situation will be in 20 years.

That is a fact.

[BigSeph]

Originally Posted by LVDan

Eventually, at one point everyone will realize he was right and regret not listening. Just like those darn Finest Kobe RCs when they should have been buying chromes.

Wouldn't be the first time people thought I was nuts and had to eat crow later.

[BabaORiley]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I get a kick out the way you felt the need to state that as fact, as if someone may think that I can. It’s just my opinion, dude. You’re a hoot in these threads. I’m sorry your 21BB isn’t going to make you rich. Maybe just buy cards for fun from now on…? Personally, I own massive stash of Jazz Chisholm cards I’ll never see a return on. I still enjoy looking through them on a regular basis.

I hate to be that guy and get argumentative but your dismissive tone here has me irked...

Why are we giving up on Jazz Chisholm so early? Guy's a treasure!