True Rookie Card is What?? - Page 2

MiamiMarlinsFan · 03-24-2023, 11:17 AM

Really do your research before buying any 2021 Bowman’s Best unintentional rookie cards. Buy them for fun, not for future value. I own a bunch, but I did so just for my own PC. They’re more infamous than anything else. The market at-large will always want Wander and Julio’s 2022 RC logo cards more.

Pacmeyer · 03-24-2023, 11:27 AM

No one can really say what's a true rc so just buy more cards.

Sincerely,
Topps

Moneychrome20 · 03-24-2023, 11:33 AM

Give me the bowman 1st chrome on card auto anyday of the week

The prices reflect this opinion for the most part

ThoseBackPages · 03-24-2023, 12:01 PM

never confuse assigned monetary value with what is or is not a Rookie Card

MoreToppsPlease · 03-24-2023, 12:09 PM

People’s opinions on the matter are often colored by why they’re in the hobby.

If they’re here for profit, they’re normally going to try to use whatever label that provides them with the best opportunity to maximize profit.

Those here for fun probably don’t care as much but should be wary of the labels those looking for profit try to impose

With that said, the definition of “rookie” hasn’t really changed much.

cardsin47 · 03-24-2023, 12:29 PM

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hche · 03-24-2023, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcr

OP, you are going to get a lot of different opinions on this, but that really sums up the answer to your question. It's all an opinion. Some people follow Becketts definition, others follow the Topps RC logo, and some even think Bowmans 1sts are rookie cards. Anyone who claims their version is the only correct one I would steer clear from.

Form your own opinion and have fun collecting!

^ this!

jplarson · 03-24-2023, 12:54 PM

If a player has a Bowman 1st card but never gets a cuppa coffee in the bigs, does it retroactively make it his rookie card?

mc1 · 03-24-2023, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jplarson

If a player has a Bowman 1st card but never gets a cuppa coffee in the bigs, does it retroactively make it his rookie card?

Prospect card.

If he was never in the League then he was never a Rookie. Thus he never had a Rookie Card.

Astros19 · 03-24-2023, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

This is the type of take I was referring to: those who insist the the baseball card gods chiseled the definition of a rookie card into a stone tablet with their finger. They give this definition as though their (or Beckett's, or anyone else's) view on the subject is superior to anyone else's.

Ironically the post he quoted started out with this as the very first sentence....
"Honestly, I feel the answer is whatever someone feels like it should be".
This is the only correct answer. You may not agree with what I consider a rookie card just like I may not agree with your definition.
Unless there's some official rule book that I'm unaware of, there is no reason to continue to debate.
I couldn't care less what others consider rookie cards and it baffles me some get so defensive about it.

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jplarson · 03-24-2023, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

Prospect card.

If he was never in the League then he was never a Rookie. Thus he never had a Rookie Card.

That makes sense!

In other news, this also confirms why 1952 Topps > 1951 Bowman for Mantle. No one cares about his first Bowman card compared to his excellent and true rookie card from Topps.

mc1 · 03-24-2023, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

"Honestly, I feel the answer is whatever someone feels like it should be".
This is the only correct answer. You may not agree with what I consider a rookie card just like I may not agree with your definition.

This is what people who peddle lies and misinformation hang onto.
“Its just an opinion.”

ThoseBackPages · 03-24-2023, 01:37 PM

"it's whatever you want it to be"

that mindset helped lead to where we are as a country

Archimedes · 03-24-2023, 01:50 PM

The market is your guide. As you know, rookie cards are almost always more valuable than 2nd year cards. So, check prices and you'll almost always know which card is the rookie card.

Pacmeyer · 03-24-2023, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Archimedes

The market is your guide. As you know, rookie cards are almost always more valuable than 2nd year cards. So, check prices and you'll almost always know which card is the rookie card.

The market is driven by FOMO. If you use this strategy to collect, sooner or later you will lose your shirt.

OhioLawyerF5 · 03-24-2023, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

"it's whatever you want it to be"

that mindset helped lead to where we are as a country

Ok, then it's whatever I want it to be and what you want it to be is wrong. I'm sure that mindset is beneficial to the country. Well done. You've solved all of our problems.

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OhioLawyerF5 · 03-24-2023, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

This is what people who peddle lies and misinformation hang onto.

“Its just an opinion.”

The entire concept of a rookie card is a made up concept. So yes, like it or not, it's all just opinion.

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ThoseBackPages · 03-24-2023, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Ok, then it's whatever I want it to be and what you want it to be is wrong. I'm sure that mindset is beneficial to the country. Well done. You've solved all of our problems.

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MERICUH!

jplarson · 03-24-2023, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

"it's whatever you want it to be"

that mindset helped lead to where we are as a country

If you don't like it you can always move. People have the freedom to have whatever mindset they want when it comes to what a rookie card is.

JoshMN · 03-24-2023, 02:11 PM

Rookie Cards are a personal decision between you and your doctor.

Bcr · 03-24-2023, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

"it's whatever you want it to be"

that mindset helped lead to where we are as a country

I mean... I would rather be able to form my own opinion rather than have someone else tell me what to think.

ThoseBackPages · 03-24-2023, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jplarson

If you don't like it you can always move. People have the freedom to have whatever mindset they want when it comes to what a rookie card is.

hahahaha

ThoseBackPages · 03-24-2023, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcr

I mean... I would rather be able to form my own opinion rather than have someone else tell me what to think.

sure, but its best to have some continuity

Jolten Joe · 03-24-2023, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jplarson

If a player has a Bowman 1st card but never gets a cuppa coffee in the bigs, does it retroactively make it his rookie card?

plus there is a reason they are labeled BP and BCP and not BR and BCR

oldgoldy97 · 03-24-2023, 02:43 PM

This is why we need a dictatorship. Too many people trying to think for themselves.

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,972 ThoseBackPages	"it's whatever you want it to be" that mindset helped lead to where we are as a country __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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03-24-2023, 11:17 AM	#26
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 14,102	Really do your research before buying any 2021 Bowman’s Best unintentional rookie cards. Buy them for fun, not for future value. I own a bunch, but I did so just for my own PC. They’re more infamous than anything else. The market at-large will always want Wander and Julio’s 2022 RC logo cards more.

03-24-2023, 11:27 AM	#27
Pacmeyer Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: All over Posts: 4,207	No one can really say what's a true rc so just buy more cards. Sincerely, Topps

03-24-2023, 11:33 AM	#28
Moneychrome20 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 1,820	Give me the bowman 1st chrome on card auto anyday of the week The prices reflect this opinion for the most part

03-24-2023, 12:54 PM	#33
jplarson Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 15,578	If a player has a Bowman 1st card but never gets a cuppa coffee in the bigs, does it retroactively make it his rookie card?

03-24-2023, 01:50 PM	#39
Archimedes Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 2,803	The market is your guide. As you know, rookie cards are almost always more valuable than 2nd year cards. So, check prices and you'll almost always know which card is the rookie card.

03-24-2023, 02:11 PM	#45
JoshMN Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,699	Rookie Cards are a personal decision between you and your doctor.