First Buzz: 2026 Topps Finest Fantastic Four trading cards

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by esoxwaters

By my math, looks like ~36,000 boxes (4,500 cases) total. Should be plenty to go around.

If they approached most marvel chrome/finest releases this way i would cry with joy

Will def unload a few boxes to bring my avg down (if feasible) but looking forward to busting this maybe even more so than Deadpool chrome

[Sickleclaw]

Odds for fantastic autos is 1:59. Odds for sketches are 1:59. So sketches will be more common than fantastic autos. Odds for comic artist autos are 1:39. Odds for relic comic inserts are 1:2,000 lol.

[Rictor]

Originally Posted by Sickleclaw

Odds for fantastic autos is 1:59. Odds for sketches are 1:59. So sketches will be more common than fantastic autos. Odds for comic artist autos are 1:39. Odds for relic comic inserts are 1:2,000 lol.

That's good because who wants a cut up piece of a comic book glued to a trading card? The only thing that makes comic cuts worth anything is artificial scarcity. Sets where Rittenhouse put them in every box, they went for a couple bucks each. Sketches are the big hit in this product (other than the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby cut).

Edit: Oh, I thought this was an art set. Looks like it's a combo MCU/art set, so I guess the MCU autos are the big hits and sketches are the secondary hits. Comic artist autos would be tier 3 and relics would be tier 4, except the rarity of comic cuts should bump them up to tier 3.

I was thinking of the Finest brand back in the 90s when it was a quality, all original art set full of paintings. Does Topps have a brand for original art sets? The Masterpieces name belongs to Upper Deck, right? It feels like all Topps Marvel sets are interchangeable regardless of the Finest, Chrome, etc. label.

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by Rictor

That's good because who wants a cut up piece of a comic book glued to a trading card? The only thing that makes comic cuts worth anything is artificial scarcity. Sets where Rittenhouse put them in every box, they went for a couple bucks each. Sketches are the big hit in this product (other than the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby cut).

Edit: Oh, I thought this was an art set. Looks like it's a combo MCU/art set, so I guess the MCU autos are the big hits and sketches are the secondary hits. Comic artist autos would be tier 3 and relics would be tier 4, except the rarity of comic cuts should bump them up to tier 3.

I was thinking of the Finest brand back in the 90s when it was a quality, all original art set full of paintings. Does Topps have a brand for original art sets? The Masterpieces name belongs to Upper Deck, right? It feels like all Topps Marvel sets are interchangeable regardless of the Finest, Chrome, etc. label.

Yes unless they have a premium look, but again yes

I do think these will possibly have a refractor border and if they are all /10 black ref /5 red ref /1 superfractor they will sell incredibly well regardless of the cut used

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by Rictor

That's good because who wants a cut up piece of a comic book glued to a trading card? The only thing that makes comic cuts worth anything is artificial scarcity. Sets where Rittenhouse put them in every box, they went for a couple bucks each. Sketches are the big hit in this product (other than the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby cut).

Edit: Oh, I thought this was an art set. Looks like it's a combo MCU/art set, so I guess the MCU autos are the big hits and sketches are the secondary hits. Comic artist autos would be tier 3 and relics would be tier 4, except the rarity of comic cuts should bump them up to tier 3.

I was thinking of the Finest brand back in the 90s when it was a quality, all original art set full of paintings. Does Topps have a brand for original art sets? The Masterpieces name belongs to Upper Deck, right? It feels like all Topps Marvel sets are interchangeable regardless of the Finest, Chrome, etc. label.

The only set that contains original art with some of it reprinted is Star Wars Galaxy.
Topps has yet to do something like this with Marvel.
Currently it's all clip art and chromifying everything using the "Topps Chrome" name to carry everything. Very uninspiring stuff.

[clocsta2323]

It's gross how many boxes are up on Ebay within 10 mins of being sold out on Topps every release its insane

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Rictor

That's good because who wants a cut up piece of a comic book glued to a trading card? The only thing that makes comic cuts worth anything is artificial scarcity. Sets where Rittenhouse put them in every box, they went for a couple bucks each. Sketches are the big hit in this product (other than the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby cut).

Edit: Oh, I thought this was an art set. Looks like it's a combo MCU/art set, so I guess the MCU autos are the big hits and sketches are the secondary hits. Comic artist autos would be tier 3 and relics would be tier 4, except the rarity of comic cuts should bump them up to tier 3.

I was thinking of the Finest brand back in the 90s when it was a quality, all original art set full of paintings. Does Topps have a brand for original art sets? The Masterpieces name belongs to Upper Deck, right? It feels like all Topps Marvel sets are interchangeable regardless of the Finest, Chrome, etc. label.

There is an insert set of 10 cards that are original art in this, “Topps Originals”, the rest of the set looks to be the usual rehashed comic art and stills. Seems to be how Topps does it…no full OA sets in sight but throw in an insert set here or there with OA.

Topps Originals insert set:

TO-01 Doctor Doom (Adi Granov)
TO-02 Galactus (Adi Granov)
TO-03 Mister Fantastic (E.M. Gist)
TO-04 Human Torch (E.M. Gist)
TO-05 The Thing (Nelson)
TO-06 Invisible Woman (Nelson)
TO-07 Spider-Man (Ben Bradi)
TO-08 She-Hulk (Ben Bradi)
TO-09 Silver Surfer (Myles Wohl)
TO-10 Thanos (Myles Wohl)

I’m not a fan of Topps marvel sets- the generic sets and Fanatics/breaking/sports vibe behind it all. I havent bought anything from Topps to this point in marvel. I admit I do like the retro Finest design used in this one- maybe as a variation of the base, checklist is confusing. But it looks like 1996 Finest baseball/basketball and thats nostalgic for me, was big into those 90s Finest sets. So the design is cool at least in some of this, but design only carries things so far and I don’t think it’s enough that I’ll go out and buy Topps marvel.

[jdandns]

I've got the pair of 1970's sticker sets, the 1979 Incredible Hulk TV series set, plus 2001 Marvel Legends, the 2003 Incredible Hulk comic art set, and some of the original Spider-Man and X-Men movie cards from around the same time.

That's good enough for me where Topps and Marvel are concerned. None of the Finest (etc.) designs hit the "nostalgia feels" for me since Topps wasn't a manufacturer of Marvel cards when those were introduced.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Sickleclaw

Odds for fantastic autos is 1:59. Odds for sketches are 1:59. So sketches will be more common than fantastic autos.

How is one more common at the same odds?

[Sickleclaw]

Originally Posted by dd316

How is one more common at the same odds?

Sorry I made a typo. Sketch cards are 1:53, finest autos are 1:59. That’s what I meant by sketches being more common.

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by Sickleclaw

Sorry I made a typo. Sketch cards are 1:53, finest autos are 1:59. That’s what I meant by sketches being more common.

Is that the combined pull rate between base and parallels on the non-artist AU?

[Sickleclaw]

Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

Is that the combined pull rate between base and parallels on the non-artist AU?

Not sure. I was going off of the TOPPs odds sheet on the product page.

[CicadaMound]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

There is an insert set of 10 cards that are original art in this, “Topps Originals”, the rest of the set looks to be the usual rehashed comic art and stills. Seems to be how Topps does it…no full OA sets in sight but throw in an insert set here or there with OA.

Topps Originals: 1:320 packs

boo

Booooo

BOOOOOOOO

Sketches are more common than these, jeez.

[Rictor]

What I don't understand about Topps and Upper Deck's use of published comic art, is they use a lot of interior panels and not even good scans in some cases. All the recent Marvel original art should exist in digital form, both black & white inked pages and digitally colored completed art. Why they use so much interior art when comic covers are more suited to cards, I'll never understand. If it's not a rights issue, I'm not sure what they're thinking. I could put together 20 different Marvel sets using just cover art from the last 10 years and never reuse a single image. And trading card fans would flip for the art. It's pretty easy when there are 5 variant covers for every Marvel comic that comes out each month (sometimes even 10 or 15). There's so much great art that is never seen again beyond being variant cover J of some X-men book. I really wonder if any comic book fans have ever worked at any of these companies.

[aggie4ever]

I'm surprised noone has run the odds on this product yet. Since I was able to order 8 boxes (and hope Topps sends me a sealed case), I wanted to see what to expect. If I calculated things correctly, here's what I come up with:

Hits per case:
2.87 actor autos
1.51 sketch cards
0.06 relic cards
3.68 artist autos

Surprisingly, almost all of the big names show up in the parallel autos.

For finest autos, all 13 signers have orange, black, red, and superfractor autos; 12 of the 13 have purple and gold autos; and 9 of the 13 have green autos.

For science autos, all 12 signers have orange, black, red, and superfractor autos.

For the dual autos, all 6 duals have black, red, and superfractor autos. 5 of the 6 duals have gold and orange autos.

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by aggie4ever

I'm surprised noone has run the odds on this product yet. Since I was able to order 8 boxes (and hope Topps sends me a sealed case), I wanted to see what to expect. If I calculated things correctly, here's what I come up with:

Hits per case:
2.87 actor autos
1.51 sketch cards
0.06 relic cards
3.68 artist autos

Surprisingly, almost all of the big names show up in the parallel autos.

For finest autos, all 13 signers have orange, black, red, and superfractor autos; 12 of the 13 have purple and gold autos; and 9 of the 13 have green autos.

For science autos, all 12 signers have orange, black, red, and superfractor autos.

For the dual autos, all 6 duals have black, red, and superfractor autos. 5 of the 6 duals have gold and orange autos.

^^^ Great Stuff here

Really looking forward to this release, feels sneaky good rn but obviously we'll have to see how it breaks

Liking where its dropping on the calendar at two weeks after Deadpool chrome, gives enough time and fits in nicely behind it from a consumer/dealer standpoint

Absolutely love the box art and many of the images shown thus far, its gonna be a banger to open!

[finfangfan]

I also think this set looks good. And hopefully leads to more original art sets from Topps in the future (even if only a small subset and not a full set).

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

There is an insert set of 10 cards that are original art in this, “Topps Originals”, the rest of the set looks to be the usual rehashed comic art and stills. Seems to be how Topps does it…no full OA sets in sight but throw in an insert set here or there with OA.

Topps Originals insert set:

TO-01 Doctor Doom (Adi Granov)
TO-02 Galactus (Adi Granov)
TO-03 Mister Fantastic (E.M. Gist)
TO-04 Human Torch (E.M. Gist)
TO-05 The Thing (Nelson)
TO-06 Invisible Woman (Nelson)
TO-07 Spider-Man (Ben Bradi)
TO-08 She-Hulk (Ben Bradi)
TO-09 Silver Surfer (Myles Wohl)
TO-10 Thanos (Myles Wohl)

E.M. Gist had nice artwork for the '19 Flair Marvel release. I liked his Todd McFarlane-styled Spider-Man:

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by aggie4ever

I'm surprised noone has run the odds on this product yet. Since I was able to order 8 boxes (and hope Topps sends me a sealed case), I wanted to see what to expect. If I calculated things correctly, here's what I come up with:

Hits per case:
2.87 actor autos
1.51 sketch cards
0.06 relic cards
3.68 artist autos

Surprisingly, almost all of the big names show up in the parallel autos.

For finest autos, all 13 signers have orange, black, red, and superfractor autos; 12 of the 13 have purple and gold autos; and 9 of the 13 have green autos.

For science autos, all 12 signers have orange, black, red, and superfractor autos.

For the dual autos, all 6 duals have black, red, and superfractor autos. 5 of the 6 duals have gold and orange autos.

Serious question -- who would you consider a "big name" on that list?

We all know who Pedro Pascal is, but that doesn't mean he has high demand for his Reed Richards sticker auto cards.

Venessa Kirby is a fine actress, but I wouldn't call her a big name.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Serious question -- who would you consider a "big name" on that list?

We all know who Pedro Pascal is, but that doesn't mean he has high demand for his Reed Richards sticker auto cards.

Venessa Kirby is a fine actress, but I wouldn't call her a big name.

His RR autos are over $800.

Not enough for you?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

His RR autos are over $800.

Not enough for you?

If he were a big name like Ryan Reynolds or Hugh Jackman, he would be double that price, though, right?

[chinesefoosball]

What the… Deadpool went missing from the Topps site and now fantastic four. Two sets I’m really excited about and miraculously actually won an EQL for in the case of Deadpool. Hope it’s just a delay and not something worse.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

If he were a big name like Ryan Reynolds or Hugh Jackman, he would be double that price, though, right?

This doesn’t make any sense.

A bigger name would be worth more?

Are you saying since he’s not the Ohtani of non sport that he’s not worth it?

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by chinesefoosball

What the… Deadpool went missing from the Topps site and now fantastic four. Two sets I’m really excited about and miraculously actually won an EQL for in the case of Deadpool. Hope it’s just a delay and not something worse.

I wouldn't worry about it, tentative release in 11 days on DPC and 3.5 weeks out on FFF

Hopefully no delays, have both coming as well

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

This doesn’t make any sense.

A bigger name would be worth more?

Are you saying since he’s not the Ohtani of non sport that he’s not worth it?

I'm saying, if he were a "big name" deserving of high demand, and therefore a product's chase autograph card, he would be priced more in line with Jackman and Reynolds, right?

The Ohtani of non-sport wouldn't be Jackman or Reynolds -- I think they're more comparable to Aaron Judge. Ohtani has been supernova hot recently -- his market has been extremely speculative -- and I can't think of a comparison in the non-sport cards world.