First Buzz: 2025 Topps Black & White baseball cards - Page 12

bustsomewax · 01-03-2026, 10:54 AM

Just saw someone opened 5 release day boxes and got 5 Golde Hours and 9 autos.

If this doesn’t piss you off, you aren’t paying attention.

J1L · 01-03-2026, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Just saw someone opened 5 release day boxes and got 5 Golde Hours and 9 autos.

If this doesn’t piss you off, you aren’t paying attention.

That’s wild. Pretty soon we’ll see eBay listings for “release day” box

ClevelandIC · 01-03-2026, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Just saw someone opened 5 release day boxes and got 5 Golde Hours and 9 autos.

If this doesn’t piss you off, you aren’t paying attention.

Ha, that is brutal for us pre-sale folks. Lame.

StlBen · 01-03-2026, 12:19 PM

So if I understand this right the preorder boxes seem to have all the 1/1 in them. The release day boxes have all the /50 golden hour....
But people are upset they are getting too many 1/1s and not enough /50s?

bubblesquirtle · 01-03-2026, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by StlBen

So if I understand this right the preorder boxes seem to have all the 1/1 in them. The release day boxes have all the /50 golden hour....
But people are upset they are getting too many 1/1s and not enough /50s?

Yes, because I didn’t hit a 1/1 and didn’t even have a chance at hitting a golden hour which is the highlight of the product for me.

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eastbayak · 01-03-2026, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by StlBen

So if I understand this right the preorder boxes seem to have all the 1/1 in them. The release day boxes have all the /50 golden hour....
But people are upset they are getting too many 1/1s and not enough /50s?

I’m very happy that it was packed out as it was, just wish there was a way to differentiate it.

dunquixote1 · 01-03-2026, 01:18 PM

There may be a way to differentiate. MAYBE. During the production Topps switched out the cellophane. Some boxes have dark blue topps Ink - Almost black. Others are vibrant blue. There’s no in between so I know it wasn’t a running change of a single cellophane lot - it’s two totally different lots of material. What I don’t know is if the black ink means later collation - or early. If it happened later then we can ensure dark ink means Golden Hours and on card autos. If the black ink is early…then it means nothing. What I can say is that I’ve seen zero Golden Hours come out of the vibrant blue packaging…so I’m leaning that dark blue is tail end production/colation.

I noticed this because there’s a listing on eBay for three boxes. In the pic one has vibrant blue and the others are definitely dark. Then I started looking at listings and the trend.

I bought a bunch of boxes - including a couple dark ink - to try and see if I can figure this out. Man, what being off from work for a couple weeks does to a man! Lmao.

bustsomewax · 01-03-2026, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

I’m very happy that it was packed out as it was, just wish there was a way to differentiate it.

Your very happy that they screwed pre sale purchasers and tried to fix there error in the dark? What else are they screwing up and not telling us?

bustsomewax · 01-03-2026, 02:04 PM

People on eBay are now asking for proof of purchase/date for your boxes. That’s fun.

Bob Ross · 01-03-2026, 02:28 PM

POTY.

dunquixote1 · 01-03-2026, 02:55 PM

Is it new news that the cases ordered on release day were all delayed until 1/21? Just found this out. So bizarre.

Archimedes · 01-03-2026, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bustsomewax

People on eBay are now asking for proof of purchase/date for your boxes. That’s fun.

Do you think we’ll see different prices for preorder vs day-of-release boxes? This is entertaining.

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eastbayak · 01-03-2026, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Your very happy that they screwed pre sale purchasers and tried to fix there error in the dark? What else are they screwing up and not telling us?

Yes, I’m very happy that the pre-order boxes have a higher ceiling.

bustsomewax · 01-03-2026, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

Yes, I’m very happy that the pre-order boxes have a higher ceiling.

No chance at Golden Hours and Gold Ink autos, but yeah, enjoy your sick matte parallels to /25.

eastbayak · 01-03-2026, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bustsomewax

No chance at Golden Hours and Gold Ink autos, but yeah, enjoy your sick matte parallels to /25.

You forgot 1/1s

dunquixote1 · 01-03-2026, 04:39 PM

Ripped 4 boxes I know were pre-order batch. Honestly, not too shabby. Notable hits:
Matt Shaw Rookie Resolution /10
Mike Schmidt /10
Pete Alonso /10
Matt Shaw Auto /25
Bobby Witt /25
Matt Shaw Frame Rate /25
James Wood Auto /25
Dylan Crew /99
Jackson Holliday Auto /25
HyeSeong Kim Shutter Speed /25
SPs:
Pujols
Chourio
Bench
SSP:
Judge

Judge is going to PSA and a PC Card. Rest I’ll be selling.

Quality is not as good as 2025. Just FYI.

Archimedes · 01-03-2026, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dunquixote1

Ripped 4 boxes I know were pre-order batch. Honestly, not too shabby. Notable hits:
Matt Shaw Rookie Resolution /10
Mike Schmidt /10
Pete Alonso /10
Matt Shaw Auto /25
Bobby Witt /25
Matt Shaw Frame Rate /25
James Wood Auto /25
Dylan Crew /99
Jackson Holliday Auto /25
HyeSeong Kim Shutter Speed /25
SPs:
Pujols
Chourio
Bench
SSP:
Judge

Judge is going to PSA and a PC Card. Rest I’ll be selling.

Quality is not as good as 2025. Just FYI.

Congrats on the Judge. Did you only get 3 autos? Or was the 4th not worth mentioning? Really disappointing about the lower QC. IMO, that was the most significant driver of last year's value.

dunquixote1 · 01-03-2026, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Archimedes

Congrats on the Judge. Did you only get 3 autos? Or was the 4th not worth mentioning? Really disappointing about the lower QC. IMO, that was the most significant driver of last year's value.

4th was Connor Norby /50. Wasn’t worth mentioning. lol.

StlBen · 01-03-2026, 05:14 PM

Anyone that is upset about one box type or the other...Ill gladly buy them at original cost as I missed out on both drops.

Bob Ross · 01-04-2026, 10:30 AM

SCC buy up to $350. Not enough vs. ebay, but buy prices bumping.

Bosoxfan5990 · 01-04-2026, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

SCC buy up to $350. Not enough vs. ebay, but buy prices bumping.

So if you were presale, you should sell?

Bob Ross · 01-04-2026, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

So if you were presale, you should sell?

It's a good offer, Bosox, and I should. I'm just throwing mine on the shelf and forgetting about them for a few months. Prices on wax are too crazy right now. Everything seems to go up daily.

eastbayak · 01-04-2026, 01:42 PM

Hot damn, a sealed case sold for $6k yesterday? Wish I got one of those.

eastbayak · 01-04-2026, 01:54 PM

Damn, single prices are high too.

dunquixote1 · 01-04-2026, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

Hot damn, a sealed case sold for $6k yesterday? Wish I got one of those.

I bought that. Seller confirmed, and provided proof, it's a release day case. And confirmed the shipment would not be opened before sending it to me.

The other cases up are not release day cases.

If all the GH and on card autos are essentially sandwiched into half (at most) of the product then I am willing to gamble (and that's what it is, a gamble).

I'd rather pay $6k for a release day case than $4.5k for a pre-order case.

01-03-2026, 10:54 AM	#276
bustsomewax Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 6,939	Just saw someone opened 5 release day boxes and got 5 Golde Hours and 9 autos. If this doesn’t piss you off, you aren’t paying attention.

01-03-2026, 12:19 PM	#279
StlBen Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: St Louis Posts: 1,126 Stl_tophits	So if I understand this right the preorder boxes seem to have all the 1/1 in them. The release day boxes have all the /50 golden hour.... But people are upset they are getting too many 1/1s and not enough /50s?

01-03-2026, 01:18 PM	#282
dunquixote1 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 456	There may be a way to differentiate. MAYBE. During the production Topps switched out the cellophane. Some boxes have dark blue topps Ink - Almost black. Others are vibrant blue. There’s no in between so I know it wasn’t a running change of a single cellophane lot - it’s two totally different lots of material. What I don’t know is if the black ink means later collation - or early. If it happened later then we can ensure dark ink means Golden Hours and on card autos. If the black ink is early…then it means nothing. What I can say is that I’ve seen zero Golden Hours come out of the vibrant blue packaging…so I’m leaning that dark blue is tail end production/colation. I noticed this because there’s a listing on eBay for three boxes. In the pic one has vibrant blue and the others are definitely dark. Then I started looking at listings and the trend. I bought a bunch of boxes - including a couple dark ink - to try and see if I can figure this out. Man, what being off from work for a couple weeks does to a man! Lmao.

01-03-2026, 02:04 PM	#284
bustsomewax Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 6,939	People on eBay are now asking for proof of purchase/date for your boxes. That’s fun.

01-03-2026, 02:28 PM	#285
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,785	POTY.

01-03-2026, 02:55 PM	#286
dunquixote1 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 456	Is it new news that the cases ordered on release day were all delayed until 1/21? Just found this out. So bizarre.

01-03-2026, 04:39 PM	#291
dunquixote1 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 456	Ripped 4 boxes I know were pre-order batch. Honestly, not too shabby. Notable hits: Matt Shaw Rookie Resolution /10 Mike Schmidt /10 Pete Alonso /10 Matt Shaw Auto /25 Bobby Witt /25 Matt Shaw Frame Rate /25 James Wood Auto /25 Dylan Crew /99 Jackson Holliday Auto /25 HyeSeong Kim Shutter Speed /25 SPs: Pujols Chourio Bench SSP: Judge Judge is going to PSA and a PC Card. Rest I’ll be selling. Quality is not as good as 2025. Just FYI.

01-03-2026, 05:14 PM	#294
StlBen Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: St Louis Posts: 1,126 Stl_tophits	Anyone that is upset about one box type or the other...Ill gladly buy them at original cost as I missed out on both drops.

01-04-2026, 10:30 AM	#295
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,785	SCC buy up to $350. Not enough vs. ebay, but buy prices bumping.

01-04-2026, 01:42 PM	#298
eastbayak Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 16,587 eastbayak	Hot damn, a sealed case sold for $6k yesterday? Wish I got one of those.

01-04-2026, 01:54 PM	#299
eastbayak Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 16,587 eastbayak	Damn, single prices are high too.