First Buzz: 2025-26 Topps Chrome NBA cards

[whodatbeastly16]

I am surprised to see that much in only 80 hangers. I have done around 50 of them with 1 auto pulled and 0 Cooper Flagg base or refractors. Couple inserts, though. Have managed to pack 3 gold pulsars, couple numbered inserts, 1 purple pulsar, a true orange to 25, true blue to 150, and a paradox, of course they were all of the wrong players and even got trolled with a couple of them being Mavs. 0 pulsar inserts in my rips. My feeling is my break was pretty average and expected return to be around 40-60% which is still better than Panini. What surprised me is how little SGA and Jokic base there are here, through 53 hangers only packed one base per each of those players. Whereas in the one mega I ripped there was a Jokic refractor and Shai base. Maybe the odds for those 2 are better in Megas and that's where the theory on doubling their price lies?

Regardless, these are a fun rip. I feel I could've done better just buying all the boxes off fanatics rather than going retail hunting. It's funny because my friend ripped just 1 hanger and pulled a Flagg refractor, so it really is just all luck at the end of the day. The overarching point is that I think Topps did a better job with this Chrome product than Panini has in terms of design, photos, card appeal, although the pricing is a little off and I fully expect the blasters and megas to be on sale in the future as they will stay on the shelves.

[Moss84istheGOAT]

Originally Posted by whodatbeastly16

I am surprised to see that much in only 80 hangers. I have done around 50 of them with 1 auto pulled and 0 Cooper Flagg base or refractors. Couple inserts, though. Have managed to pack 3 gold pulsars, couple numbered inserts, 1 purple pulsar, a true orange to 25, true blue to 150, and a paradox, of course they were all of the wrong players and even got trolled with a couple of them being Mavs. 0 pulsar inserts in my rips. My feeling is my break was pretty average and expected return to be around 40-60% which is still better than Panini. What surprised me is how little SGA and Jokic base there are here, through 53 hangers only packed one base per each of those players. Whereas in the one mega I ripped there was a Jokic refractor and Shai base. Maybe the odds for those 2 are better in Megas and that's where the theory on doubling their price lies?

Regardless, these are a fun rip. I feel I could've done better just buying all the boxes off fanatics rather than going retail hunting. It's funny because my friend ripped just 1 hanger and pulled a Flagg refractor, so it really is just all luck at the end of the day. The overarching point is that I think Topps did a better job with this Chrome product than Panini has in terms of design, photos, card appeal, although the pricing is a little off and I fully expect the blasters and megas to be on sale in the future as they will stay on the shelves.

It is crazy the on collation, as you can see i only pulled 5 Harpers, 3 Base Shai, and 2 Jokic, and look at all the wembys I pulled. I went to 10 different locations to buy to spread it out thinking in my mind to allow better odds for hits, but they also had the limits and manily worked out, I hit 3 autos in one target, 2 being #10 and the Coward.

[h00perstar34]

Saw on Facebook the Tre Johnson true super was pulled from a blaster yesterday

[phdbeckett]

Originally Posted by weatherwarrior

The insert cards like serenity, ball of duty, inspirational all have pulsar parallels. They are very tough pulls. With a low print run.



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I just opened 32 hangers straight from Topps This morning. Overall a bloodbath, but I did hit one Pulsar insert a flagg So based on what you're saying I think I did okay.

[Dizzlle01]

Originally Posted by phdbeckett

I just opened 32 hangers straight from Topps This morning. Overall a bloodbath, but I did hit one Pulsar insert a flagg So based on what you're saying I think I did okay.

Any autos?

[phdbeckett]

Nique Clifford sticker.

[phdbeckett]

Actually not a blood bath. I got a Shaq Helix that apparently does pretty well. A Durant case hit as well.

[J1L]

Originally Posted by phdbeckett

Actually not a blood bath. I got a Shaq Helix that apparently does pretty well. A Durant case hit as well.

Nice! That cooper is a monster hit rarity wise. Nice break.

[jfan2024]

Originally Posted by Hess687

This is what I don't understand....my Target has this stuff flooded. Blasters, megas, hangers. No one is touching it. I walked past it today and didn't even blink an eye. The resell on these hangers as of right now is minimal to break even.

If you want to bust and hope for the best then so be it, but the return on value, outside of the few select people here who post their hits, are minimal.

Much like the lottery, the people who hit, talk about it, but there are many of people 100x over that didn't hit anything at all.

People conflate relative value with actual value. Hangers are the best relative value SKU and gets all the green on value spreadsheets. They are still terrible in actual value. Even with all the "case hits" (more common than 64 hangers/hit imo), most here have actually lost significant money on these 10 and 20 hanger breaks judging by what I'm seeing on terapeak (avg return is about 50% and these are the "winners" posting). I personally assign no value to any card that sells under $10 because let's be honest, many of us won't be bothering to sell all of those.

No need to fomo, if you're ripping $20+tax is a ~50% loss even in bulk rips. If you're holding, well you invested a lot upfront to maybe make call it $10/hanger after shipping and fees? Retail is essentially never worth playing in, and definitely not so with what Fanatics priced this at

[J1L]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

People conflate relative value with actual value. Hangers are the best relative value SKU and gets all the green on value spreadsheets. They are still terrible in actual value. Even with all the "case hits" (more common than 64 hangers/hit imo), most here have actually lost significant money on these 10 and 20 hanger breaks judging by what I'm seeing on terapeak (avg return is about 50% and these are the "winners" posting). I personally assign no value to any card that sells under $10 because let's be honest, many of us won't be bothering to sell all of those.

No need to fomo, if you're ripping $20+tax is a ~50% loss even in bulk rips. If you're holding, well you invested a lot upfront to maybe make call it $10/hanger after shipping and fees? Retail is essentially never worth playing in, and definitely not so with what Fanatics priced this at

So don’t rip anything ever essentially lol

[bankdawg]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

People conflate relative value with actual value. Hangers are the best relative value SKU and gets all the green on value spreadsheets. They are still terrible in actual value. Even with all the "case hits" (more common than 64 hangers/hit imo), most here have actually lost significant money on these 10 and 20 hanger breaks judging by what I'm seeing on terapeak (avg return is about 50% and these are the "winners" posting). I personally assign no value to any card that sells under $10 because let's be honest, many of us won't be bothering to sell all of those.

No need to fomo, if you're ripping $20+tax is a ~50% loss even in bulk rips. If you're holding, well you invested a lot upfront to maybe make call it $10/hanger after shipping and fees? Retail is essentially never worth playing in, and definitely not so with what Fanatics priced this at

I predict these hangers will be $50+ each within a year.

[whodatbeastly16]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

People conflate relative value with actual value. Hangers are the best relative value SKU and gets all the green on value spreadsheets. They are still terrible in actual value. Even with all the "case hits" (more common than 64 hangers/hit imo), most here have actually lost significant money on these 10 and 20 hanger breaks judging by what I'm seeing on terapeak (avg return is about 50% and these are the "winners" posting). I personally assign no value to any card that sells under $10 because let's be honest, many of us won't be bothering to sell all of those.

No need to fomo, if you're ripping $20+tax is a ~50% loss even in bulk rips. If you're holding, well you invested a lot upfront to maybe make call it $10/hanger after shipping and fees? Retail is essentially never worth playing in, and definitely not so with what Fanatics priced this at

Yes, if you want a fun rip at the most affordable price, then hangers are the move. But I would say don't expect any cards worth more than $50. For me , it's just a really fun ripping experience, where I can sell the cards of players I don't want and keep the ones of players I'm interested in. The "case hits" are pretty abundant but that means they won't really sell that well. Seems like if you want to hit big cards, you are reserved to the hobby SKUs which is fair. And I never understood the hoarding of retail wax.

[weatherwarrior]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

People conflate relative value with actual value. Hangers are the best relative value SKU and gets all the green on value spreadsheets. They are still terrible in actual value. Even with all the "case hits" (more common than 64 hangers/hit imo), most here have actually lost significant money on these 10 and 20 hanger breaks judging by what I'm seeing on terapeak (avg return is about 50% and these are the "winners" posting). I personally assign no value to any card that sells under $10 because let's be honest, many of us won't be bothering to sell all of those.



No need to fomo, if you're ripping $20+tax is a ~50% loss even in bulk rips. If you're holding, well you invested a lot upfront to maybe make call it $10/hanger after shipping and fees? Retail is essentially never worth playing in, and definitely not so with what Fanatics priced this at

Yeah in order to do well you have to hit in hangers. Your assessment of 50% return is right for alot of what is out there. But I for one have had great luck with hangers. Low numbered stuff autos and some nice rookies

There will be a resurgence in prices for singles too. With christmas gone prices will start to rise as rookies have great outings.

Typically prizm came out after the holidays. I jonestly cant remember ever ripping prizm and getting as high of a percentage return as I have seen from chrome for the most part(retail speaking).

But its not all roses. Condition issues, centering has been fairly atrocious across the board.

I just think think we are at a crossroads. A good portion of collectors have only know panini-america. Chrome is new and different for them. I think it takes time to get them fully converted over.

Fanatics eliminated scalpers with the higher prices, but also priced out most collectors.
Its a tough time for people who want to rip. Retail isnt great but for the most part its been better for this release than its been in a long time.

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[weatherwarrior]

Originally Posted by whodatbeastly16

Yes, if you want a fun rip at the most affordable price, then hangers are the move. But I would say don't expect any cards worth more than $50. For me , it's just a really fun ripping experience, where I can sell the cards of players I don't want and keep the ones of players I'm interested in. The "case hits" are pretty abundant but that means they won't really sell that well. Seems like if you want to hit big cards, you are reserved to the hobby SKUs which is fair. And I never understood the hoarding of retail wax.

I guess they see what topps update Ohtani hangers go for and that's the reason why.

But I get what you are saying, I dont know how one can hoard retail like that.

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[phdbeckett]

Originally Posted by J1L

Nice! That cooper is a monster hit rarity wise. Nice break.

Thanks. Just did a Mega case, got a Coward orange/25 rc, and Jakucionis auto /25. Just 3 base Flaggs out of 20 megas and 32 hangers today.

[sportzking]

How many parallels do you get in a hanger? Long shot but hoping to get some Spurs parallels while slowly building a base set.

[whodatbeastly16]

Originally Posted by sportzking

How many parallels do you get in a hanger? Long shot but hoping to get some Spurs parallels while slowly building a base set.

After 50 hangers, I would say 80% had 2, with the rest being 3. In terms of Spurs, they are here extensively. Probably pulled around 5-6 Dylan Harper base, maybe 15 inserts of him with 3 refractors. Wembanyama as well as he is in every insert set nearly.

[njsportscardguy]

Originally Posted by Moss84istheGOAT

Whats a pulsar, i got almost 2 every pack if i am referring to the right card, i was getting these 2 per pack

Only 1 auto out of my 21 total hangers, and,...coincidentally, it was Adou Thiero!

[Cavs16]

The Basketball boarder is easily the best looking common parallel relative to the over printed refractor, the hyper, and the xfractor. Also do like the seismic (better name then the raywave .

[mwf94]

Originally Posted by njsportscardguy

That's a beautiful auto card, genuine graphic design and not SHINY SHINY SHINY

[BackToWax]

Originally Posted by phdbeckett

I just opened 32 hangers straight from Topps This morning. Overall a bloodbath, but I did hit one Pulsar insert a flagg So based on what you're saying I think I did okay.

That Flagg in a PSA 10 will pay for your break.

[comicbooksgo]

Originally Posted by sportzking

How many parallels do you get in a hanger? Long shot but hoping to get some Spurs parallels while slowly building a base set.

Speaking of Spurs...
Grabbed 5 hangers otw to family yesterday. Last week I bought 8 and didn't get a single #ed card. No Flagg. No rookie parallels. One SGA for what that's worth...These 5 made up for the others and then some. The #1/5 Castle really saved the day. Saved it for last once I saw that pack had a red.

[J1L]

Originally Posted by comicbooksgo

Speaking of Spurs...
Grabbed 5 hangers otw to family yesterday. Last week I bought 8 and didn't get a single #ed card. No Flagg. No rookie parallels. One SGA for what that's worth...These 5 made up for the others and then some. The #1/5 Castle really saved the day. Saved it for last once I saw that pack had a red.

That’s a monster break, especially if that Kon is a pulsar - I can’t tell.

[sportzking]

Originally Posted by comicbooksgo

Speaking of Spurs...
Grabbed 5 hangers otw to family yesterday. Last week I bought 8 and didn't get a single #ed card. No Flagg. No rookie parallels. One SGA for what that's worth...These 5 made up for the others and then some. The #1/5 Castle really saved the day. Saved it for last once I saw that pack had a red.

I would have been happy getting those out of my 2 Megas.

[comicbooksgo]

Originally Posted by J1L

That’s a monster break, especially if that Kon is a pulsar - I can’t tell.

Yeah, sorry, not the best pic, but it is a pulsar.