The Never Too Early 2025 NFL MVP Thread - Page 18

Floridacardguy · 11-17-2025, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Stafford only threw for 130 yesterday and barely beat a team that turned the ball over 4+ times. He's throwing to Puka & Davante and has Kyren in his backfield.

What are we even doing here?

You can only beat the teams put in front of you.

Everyone keeps saying Drake Maye for MVP- he's playing the 2nd easiest schedule of 32 teams while Stafford is playing the 20th easiest.

Stafford has 7 more passing TDS- that's a lot(against much harder competition)

If we are talking Maye for MNP, why not Nix? Nix has one less total TDS (against the 14th easiest schedule and NOT the 2nd like Maye), and Nix leads the league in 4th qtr comeback wins. And like Maye, Nix has led his team to 1st place in the division (in a much harder division to boot). I actually am pointing out, that I don't think Nix should be MVP, and when his numbers are that close to Maye with similar results against much harder schedule, I don't think Maye deserves it either. Maye and Nix are both having good seasons- neither deserves the MVP award

I think Allen just jumped back into the conversation after yesterday(although he too is facing an easy overall schedule(5th easiest)

No doubt as far as QBs the pecking orders if

Stafford
Allen
Maye

Non QBs have to be Garrett and Taylor.

boxbuster7 · 11-17-2025, 02:59 PM

I'd say jonathan taylor, stafford, and maye should be the frontrunners right now

cdub6238 · 11-17-2025, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

You can only beat the teams put in front of you.

Everyone keeps saying Drake Maye for MVP- he's playing the 2nd easiest schedule of 32 teams while Stafford is playing the 20th easiest.

Stafford has 7 more passing TDS- that's a lot(against much harder competition)

If we are talking Maye for MNP, why not Nix? Nix has one less total TDS (against the 14th easiest schedule and NOT the 2nd like Maye), and Nix leads the league in 4th qtr comeback wins. And like Maye, Nix has led his team to 1st place in the division (in a much harder division to boot). I actually am pointing out, that I don't think Nix should be MVP, and when his numbers are that close to Maye with similar results against much harder schedule, I don't think Maye deserves it either. Maye and Nix are both having good seasons- neither deserves the MVP award

I think Allen just jumped back into the conversation after yesterday(although he too is facing an easy overall schedule(5th easiest)

No doubt as far as QBs the pecking orders if

Stafford
Allen
Maye

Non QBs have to be Garrett and Taylor.

Lmao...ofc just can't go a post without jerking off Nix

And Bills with 5th easiest schedule...Baltimore, KC, NFC South leader TB, NFC #1/2 Seed Eagles, and #1/2 AFC seed Patriots 2x..

Cool story

The fact that you are using an article dated from 1.5 months ago is also quite hilarious

JWBlue · 11-18-2025, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

We can safely remove Darnold and Baker and insert in Myles Garrett

The last time a defensive player won MVP was LT back in 1986

And I'm here for it

If Cleveland wins the division, it is a possibility.

On a losing team? Not a chance.

JWBlue · 11-18-2025, 05:09 PM

JSN is a legit darkhorse if they win the division.

tjforce · 11-18-2025, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

You can only beat the teams put in front of you.

Everyone keeps saying Drake Maye for MVP- he's playing the 2nd easiest schedule of 32 teams while Stafford is playing the 20th easiest.

Stafford has 7 more passing TDS- that's a lot(against much harder competition)

If we are talking Maye for MNP, why not Nix? Nix has one less total TDS (against the 14th easiest schedule and NOT the 2nd like Maye), and Nix leads the league in 4th qtr comeback wins. And like Maye, Nix has led his team to 1st place in the division (in a much harder division to boot). I actually am pointing out, that I don't think Nix should be MVP, and when his numbers are that close to Maye with similar results against much harder schedule, I don't think Maye deserves it either. Maye and Nix are both having good seasons- neither deserves the MVP award

I think Allen just jumped back into the conversation after yesterday(although he too is facing an easy overall schedule(5th easiest)

No doubt as far as QBs the pecking orders if

Stafford
Allen
Maye

Non QBs have to be Garrett and Taylor.

Are you even going to mention that Stafford has played 1 less game than both Maye and Nix?

Right now the case for Stafford over everyone just based on statistics is a pretty easy one. And that's not shade at anyone, but 27 TDs to 2 INTs through 10 games is nuts.

Floridacardguy · 11-18-2025, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Are you even going to mention that Stafford has played 1 less game than both Maye and Nix?

Right now the case for Stafford over everyone just based on statistics is a pretty easy one. And that's not shade at anyone, but 27 TDs to 2 INTs through 10 games is nuts.

Well, there you are- backs up my theory Stafford is clearly #1. Maye & Nix will get their days in the sun, for now this is the Matt Stafford show

Bosoxfan5990 · 11-18-2025, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBlue

JSN is a legit darkhorse if they win the division.

No he isn't.

Onepocketj · 11-18-2025, 09:11 PM

Stafford +135
Maye +175
Allen +450
Taylor +900
Mahomes +2000

Everyone else over +4000.
Crazy how much it is changing game to game.

Onepocketj · 11-18-2025, 09:13 PM

Other ones not so close

OPOY Taylor -400
DPOY Garrett -320

JWBlue · 11-19-2025, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Other ones not so close

OPOY Taylor -400
DPOY Garrett -320

I just put some $ on JSN for OPOY. Taylor has a brutal schedule against tough defenses down the stretch.

Nostalgia · 11-20-2025, 11:27 PM

Not a good night got Josh Allen.

JohnnyHatesJazz · 11-20-2025, 11:28 PM

Allen mvp hopes are COOKED.

Delta, you are now excused from this thread.

Onepocketj · 11-20-2025, 11:31 PM

It does seem like it's down to Maye and Stafford at this point but stranger things have happened.

Zauron · 11-20-2025, 11:37 PM

No way you can vote for Allen at this point, what a god awful performance.

ninjacookies · 11-20-2025, 11:37 PM

Imagine losing to Davis Mills in 2025.

Just imagine.

My money's on Staff.

Whodatiz · 11-20-2025, 11:42 PM

Nah. Maye's got this.

Nostalgia · 11-20-2025, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Whodatiz

Nah. Maye's got this.

Big for the division too.

blackvodka · 11-20-2025, 11:45 PM

Allen would have to have a masterful finish to the season to even have a chance after tonight's loss.

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Jaysabz · 11-20-2025, 11:46 PM

Crazy stat I just heard on the post-game.

Last 23 road games for the Bills, Josh Allen and the Bills are now 11-12, worse than .500.

Yikes.

tjforce · 11-20-2025, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

No way you can vote for Allen at this point, what a god awful performance.

No way you could have voted for him before this either if you had half a brain. (Which not everyone here has).

Probably the league's most inconsistent QB this year.

Monster games vs KC, Tampa, and Baltimore. Putrid performances vs Houston, Miami, and Atlanta.

Could only imagine the amount of turnovers he'd have if didn't have the league's 2nd leading rusher in the backfield taking the pressure off.

JWBlue · 11-21-2025, 12:00 AM

~~Josh Allen~~

Rabs · 11-21-2025, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaysabz

Crazy stat I just heard on the post-game.

Last 23 road games for the Bills, Josh Allen and the Bills are now 11-12, worse than .500.

Yikes.

That is wild.

Bars and Bar · 11-21-2025, 08:54 AM

Josh Allen 0-4 all time in Houston…

corndog · 11-21-2025, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bars and Bar

Josh Allen 0-4 all time in Houston…

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11-20-2025, 11:37 PM	#440
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11-20-2025, 11:37 PM	#441
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 57,151	Imagine losing to Davis Mills in 2025. Just imagine. My money's on Staff. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

11-18-2025, 09:11 PM	#434
Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,872 jeflave-0 onepocketj	Stafford +135 Maye +175 Allen +450 Taylor +900 Mahomes +2000 Everyone else over +4000. Crazy how much it is changing game to game.

11-18-2025, 09:13 PM	#435
Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,872 jeflave-0 onepocketj	Other ones not so close OPOY Taylor -400 DPOY Garrett -320

11-20-2025, 11:27 PM	#437
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11-20-2025, 11:31 PM	#439
Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,872 jeflave-0 onepocketj	It does seem like it's down to Maye and Stafford at this point but stranger things have happened.

11-20-2025, 11:42 PM	#442
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11-20-2025, 11:46 PM	#445
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