Is FANATICS in over their head? - Page 54

MiamiMarlinsFan · 10-04-2025, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by base set

Some of those could be headed to the “semi-annual” list.

There’s a semi annual list? What’s currently on it?

ThoseBackPages · 10-04-2025, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

There’s a semi annual list? What’s currently on it?

Platinum for sure

auctionjmm · 10-04-2025, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

So here's a question.....how many more baseball products will Fanatics' actually get out the door in 2025?

You've still got:

Ginter
Archives
Stadium Club
Platinum Anniversary
Museum
Cosmic Chrome
Heritage High Number
RIP
Brooklyn

And now with Topps' basketball license becoming active, Fanatics has even more products to try to get out the door.

Seems like they've stretched themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too thin in terms of acquiring licenses to far more intellectual property than they have production capability for.

I would agree with you if Panini wasn't also months behind on their releases. This isn't exclusively a Fanatics problem and hasn't been for a while. Even if Fanatics wasn't starting the BKB license this month, it wouldn't matter. Actually, the fact that flagship BKB is coming out this month is already a huge step above Panini.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 10-04-2025, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Platinum for sure

Hmm… Did not know that.

base set · 10-04-2025, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

There’s a semi annual list? What’s currently on it?

I don’t know. Just something my LCS told me, some 6+ months ago now. That some products won’t be canceled completely, but also won’t remain annual products either.

ewokpelts · 10-04-2025, 10:05 PM

It’s gunna get crazy in April, when 25/26 football releases blitz out of the gate as baseball is full steam and basketball is also full blast. Only to see it get even crazier when 26/27 football releases in August.

mfw13 · 10-06-2025, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ewokpelts

It’s gunna get crazy in April, when 25/26 football releases blitz out of the gate as baseball is full steam and basketball is also full blast. Only to see it get even crazier when 26/27 football releases in August.

It's already crazy.....we're in the baseball postseason, and Topps/Fanatics has only released about 10 products this year so far, half of which are clones of flagship.

ThoseBackPages · 10-06-2025, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

It's already crazy.....we're in the baseball postseason, and Topps/Fanatics has only released about 10 products this year so far, half of which are clones of flagship.

do you stop buying baseball cards in December?

hermanotarjeta · 10-06-2025, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

do you stop buying baseball cards in December?

How many 2026 baseball products will be released before all the 2025 products are released next year?

MiamiMarlinsFan · 10-06-2025, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

How many 2026 baseball products will be released before all the 2025 products are released next year?

Probably at least ‘26 Series 1.

hermanotarjeta · 10-06-2025, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Probably at least ‘26 Series 1.

And heritage!

MiamiMarlinsFan · 10-06-2025, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

And heritage!

It’s possible, since I’m sure ‘25 Dynasty will be a late March/early April release.

mfw13 · 10-06-2025, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

do you stop buying baseball cards in December?

What's your point? That we should simply accept that releasing products late is perfectly fine?

But my answer to your question is yes.....once the calendar rolls into 2026, my interest in 2025 products is going to decrease significantly......heck....my interest in 2025 baseball products is already decreasing as we move into football/basketball/hockey season.

hermanotarjeta · 10-06-2025, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

What's your point? That we should simply accept that releasing products late is perfectly fine?

But my answer to your question is yes.....once the calendar rolls into 2026, my interest in 2025 products is going to decrease significantly......heck....my interest in 2025 baseball products is already decreasing as we move into football/basketball/hockey season.

I also don’t like rookie logo cards that are released a year later than their package date. - where is the cutoff?

Can Topps release 2025 rookie logo cards in 2027? 2028?

StlBen · 10-06-2025, 12:53 PM

I 100% love products coming out later. Give new players a chance to be in all the products. I hate when a PC guy I collect misses half the releases for the year because the products came out before he could get on checklists. Plus I spend money year round, not just when games are being played. So why wouldn't I want new products coming out every month.

ThoseBackPages · 10-06-2025, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

What's your point? That we should simply accept that releasing products late is perfectly fine?

But my answer to your question is yes.....once the calendar rolls into 2026, my interest in 2025 products is going to decrease significantly......heck....my interest in 2025 baseball products is already decreasing as we move into football/basketball/hockey season.

my point is they do not care what us oldheads think

they will ride this util the wheels fall off.

if you are still here then, then MAYBE they will care what oldheads think.

Maybe.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 10-06-2025, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I also don’t like rookie logo cards that are released a year later than their package date. - where is the cutoff?

Can Topps release 2025 rookie logo cards in 2027? 2028?

As long as they stay in sequence it’s not that big of a deal. If they release 2025 Bowman’s Best in February of 2026, and then release 2026 Bowman’s Best in December of 2026… you’re saying that you would want both treated as 2026 releases in regards to checklist and RC logo designation?

MiamiMarlinsFan · 10-06-2025, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by StlBen

I 100% love products coming out later. Give new players a chance to be in all the products. I hate when a PC guy I collect misses half the releases for the year because the products came out before he could get on checklists. Plus I spend money year round, not just when games are being played. So why wouldn't I want new products coming out every month.

This is how I feel. Let’s get Nick Kurtz RC logo cards into as many releases as possible!

hermanotarjeta · 10-06-2025, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

As long as they stay in sequence it’s not that big of a deal. If they release 2025 Bowman’s Best in February of 2026, and then release 2026 Bowman’s Best in December of 2026… you’re saying that you would want both treated as 2026 releases in regards to checklist and RC logo designation?

Well, a few months late would be tolerable like a 2025 product releasing in early 2026, but I would have a problem if a 2025 product was released in July, 2026 for example. Not everyone would, but where is the tolerance line drawn?

What if 2025 bowman’s best was released in December 2026, and 2026 bowman’s best was released in December 2027? A full next baseball season would have passed by then, even though the products were released in sequence.

2022-23 the cup hockey was released two years later I believe, a whole season and a summer (September 2024) after it should have been released! Crazy.

hermanotarjeta · 10-06-2025, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

This is how I feel. Let’s get Nick Kurtz RC logo cards into as many releases as possible!

Would it be ok, for example, if a 2025 Nick Kurtz rookie logo card was released in August 2026, when over half of next year’s season is already completed?

MiamiMarlinsFan · 10-06-2025, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Well, a few months late would be tolerable like a 2025 product releasing in early 2026, but I would have a problem if a 2025 product was released in July, 2026 for example. Not everyone would, but where is the tolerance line drawn?

What if 2025 bowman’s best was released in December 2026, and 2026 bowman’s best was released in December 2027? A full next baseball season would have passed by then, even though the products were released in sequence.

2022-23 the cup hockey was released two years later I believe, a whole season and a summer (September 2024) after it should have been released! Crazy.

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Would it be ok, for example, if a 2025 Nick Kurtz rookie logo card was released in August 2026, when over half of next year’s season is already completed?

Regardless of actual release date, as long as they stay in sequence, I’m fine with it. There’s obviously limits to though, I’m not just totally sure what they are yet (neither does Fanatics). Like, let’s say they stop making Dynasty after this recent 2024 releases, and then 10 years later start again and release “2025 Dynasty” with Nick Kurtz RC logos on it… we can all agree that’s too much.

Twalk1975 · 10-06-2025, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Would it be ok, for example, if a 2025 Nick Kurtz rookie logo card was released in August 2026, when over half of next year’s season is already completed?

It seems as though for the vast majority of players, their cards are valued highest when the price is based on nothing but potential. Wouldn't it make it more difficult to invest in cards the further out from their debut that rookie cards are released?

Twalk1975 · 10-06-2025, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Would it be ok, for example, if a 2025 Nick Kurtz rookie logo card was released in August 2026, when over half of next year’s season is already completed?

Take Jackson Holliday as an example. I would think it would have a negative effect on the price of wax or break spots if his RC's were just now being released. I would think you'd like that.

Twalk1975 · 10-06-2025, 04:25 PM

The quicker they get the RC's out just facilitates the gambling aspect.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 10-06-2025, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Twalk1975

The quicker they get the RC's out just facilitates the gambling aspect.

Which is what “1st Bowman” cards are for.

10-04-2025, 10:05 PM	#1331
ewokpelts Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Evergreen Park, IL Posts: 4,233 asg2003ws2005	It’s gunna get crazy in April, when 25/26 football releases blitz out of the gate as baseball is full steam and basketball is also full blast. Only to see it get even crazier when 26/27 football releases in August.

10-06-2025, 12:53 PM	#1340
StlBen Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: St Louis Posts: 1,159 Stl_tophits	I 100% love products coming out later. Give new players a chance to be in all the products. I hate when a PC guy I collect misses half the releases for the year because the products came out before he could get on checklists. Plus I spend money year round, not just when games are being played. So why wouldn't I want new products coming out every month.

10-06-2025, 04:25 PM	#1349
Twalk1975 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,133	The quicker they get the RC's out just facilitates the gambling aspect.