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Old 09-29-2025, 04:47 PM   #76
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more RC checklist manipulation by Topps

there is no "cutoff date" its just random from year to year and this year we had a rookie called up on July 3rd in Colson Montgomery and somehow not get in Update


yet pitcher Logan Henderson who was called up on August 3rd, somehow has rookies in Bowman Chrome
Logan Henderson debuted April 20th.

The cutoff date is real, follow Topps Now for the exact date.
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Old 09-29-2025, 05:12 PM   #77
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Rockies have 17 cards in Update - makes the 2025 series 1 / series 2 / update team set 42 cards total. That's the largest team checklist ever since I started building the Topps Black team sets.
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Old 09-29-2025, 05:42 PM   #78
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I noticed the large number of inclusions for the Rockies as well. It's crazy that a team that usually has one of the smallest number of players in most sets got such a crazy run in Update.
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Old 09-29-2025, 05:57 PM   #79
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I noticed the large number of inclusions for the Rockies as well. It's crazy that a team that usually has one of the smallest number of players in most sets got such a crazy run in Update.
10 RCs, 3 rookie debuts, 4 veterans (Senzatela, Tyler Freeman, Mickey Moniak, Thairo Estrada). Strangely, German Marquez has no card in 2025 flagship.

There were 19 total RCs in the 42 card team set this year - a product of so many call ups due to how bad they were. Of those 19 RCs the only ones who may have slight star power are Dollander and Veen (maybe Amador if he can make the full time transition to the bigs). I don't see Veen sticking in the bigs unless he has a huge 2026 spring with Condon and Jared Thomas both slated for AAA next year - I believe both have passed him on the depth chart. The Rockies will probably do something stupid in the offseason like sign Jarred Kelenic.

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Old 09-29-2025, 06:12 PM   #80
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more RC checklist manipulation by Topps

there is no "cutoff date" its just random from year to year and this year we had a rookie called up on July 3rd in Colson Montgomery and somehow not get in Update


yet pitcher Logan Henderson who was called up on August 3rd, somehow has rookies in Bowman Chrome
There’s definitely a cutoff date. Who was the last player to debut in June or later and be in Update? You’d have to waaaay back. Unless there’s a name I’m forgetting?

Logan Henderson debuted on April 20th of this year, btw. He pitched six innings against the A’s that day.

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Old 09-29-2025, 06:46 PM   #81
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Those Golden Mirror Autos look absolutely fantastic.
Yeah they really do.
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Old 09-29-2025, 08:00 PM   #82
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It looks like hobby boxes are sold out few mins ago.
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Old 09-29-2025, 08:18 PM   #83
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I was too late for Jumbo and so 2 Hobbies instead.
Depending on how short of a set I get, will look to pickup a few hangars from Gamestop if/when available OR a fanatics blaster or 2.
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Old 09-29-2025, 10:01 PM   #84
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I was also too late for Jumbo and so 2 Hobbies instead.
Depending on how short of a set I get, will look to pickup a few hangars from Walgreens if/when available OR a fanatics blaster or 2.
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Old 09-30-2025, 12:36 AM   #85
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I was also too late for Jumbo and so 2 Hobbies instead.
Depending on how short of a set I get, will look to pickup a few hangars from Walgreens if/when available OR a fanatics blaster or 2.
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Old 09-30-2025, 08:23 AM   #86
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He didn't make the checklist as he was called up way after the cutoff date to be in Update. He should be in Series 1 along with this MASSIVE LIST....

Cole Young
Jac Caglianone
Kyle Teel
Roman Anthony
Jacob Melton
Jacob Misiorowski (Pitcher)
Otto Kemp
Ryan Ritter
Ian Seymour (Pitcher)
Grant Taylor (Pitcher)
Christian Moore
Brady House
Didier Fuentes (Pitcher)
Chase Burns (Pitcher)
Jack Perkins (Pitcher)
Colby Thomas
Yanquiel Fernandez
Colson Montgomery
Cam Schlittler (Pitcher)
Brice Matthews
Cody Freeman
Warming Bernabel
Carson Whisenhunt (Pitcher)
Kenedy Corona
Troy Melton (Pitcher)
Alex Freeland
Jakob Marsee
CJ Kayfus
Jerimiah Jackson
Drew Gilbert
Nolan McLean (Pitcher)
Karros
Owen Caissie
Bob Seymour
Dylan Beavers
Samuel Basallo
Bubba Chandler (Pitcher)
Carson Williams
Jhostynxson Garcia "The Password"
Jonah Tong (Pitcher)
Peyton Tolle (Pitcher)
Jimmy Crooks
Sal Stewart
Carter Jensen
Pretty insane. Also can add Brandon Sproat too.
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Old 09-30-2025, 08:34 AM   #87
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When the Playoffs start, I want to rip some brand new cheap worthless retail Baseball Cards. How much longer this year?
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Old 09-30-2025, 08:48 AM   #88
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Those Golden Mirror Autos look absolutely fantastic.
Love the look of them. I’ll be looking for a Jose Ramirez if anyone hits one.
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Old 09-30-2025, 08:51 AM   #89
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I was too late for Jumbo and so 2 Hobbies instead.
Depending on how short of a set I get, will look to pickup a few hangars from Gamestop if/when available OR a fanatics blaster or 2.
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Depending on how short of a set I get, will look to pickup a few hangars from Walgreens if/when available OR a fanatics blaster or 2.
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I was also too late for Jumbo and so 2 Hobbies instead.
Depending on how short of a set I get, will look to pickup a few hangars from Walgreens if/when available OR a fanatics blaster or 2.
well played.
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10 RCs, 3 rookie debuts, 4 veterans (Senzatela, Tyler Freeman, Mickey Moniak, Thairo Estrada). Strangely, German Marquez has no card in 2025 flagship.

There were 19 total RCs in the 42 card team set this year - a product of so many call ups due to how bad they were. Of those 19 RCs the only ones who may have slight star power are Dollander and Veen (maybe Amador if he can make the full time transition to the bigs). I don't see Veen sticking in the bigs unless he has a huge 2026 spring with Condon and Jared Thomas both slated for AAA next year - I believe both have passed him on the depth chart. The Rockies will probably do something stupid in the offseason like sign Jarred Kelenic.
I feel like Veen isn't going to stick either. Too bad as he looked like a really good young player his first few years in the minors. Once he got to the higher levels he just could never get it going.

It's also a bummer Marquez didn't get a card. Even though injuries have completely derailed him I still like him and would liked to have had a flagship this year to pick up.

Another players that's crazy who didn't get in a 42 card team set this year is Victor Vodnik.

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Old 09-30-2025, 09:49 AM   #91
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I just wish they would post these Gold Mirror autos will be 1/1 so people realize they won't hit one...
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Old 09-30-2025, 10:16 AM   #92
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I know its not '26 Series 1 (or maybe I'm just trying to make myself feel better, I'm in for multiple cases), but there are still some pretty good names in this one

Nick Kurtz
Marcelo Mayer
Matt Shaw
Kristian Campbell
Agustin Ramirez
Drake Baldwin
Caleb Durbin
Daylen Lile
Chandler Simpson
Cam Smith

Not the depth of 2026, but its not bad. Think we were spoiled a decent amount by Skenes and PCA in 2024, but looking at 2024's Rookie list, I don't think this is as big a downgrade as everyone is making it. 2024 had Skenes, Holliday, Chourio, Merrill (I know PCA, but he wasn't a headliner at this time last year). I think this class has its headliner (Kurtz) along with a similar crop of players that could break out/keep it up (Campbell, Shaw, Simpson, Durbin)

Just my two cents
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Old 09-30-2025, 11:34 AM   #93
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There’s definitely a cutoff date. Who was the last player to debut in June or later and be in Update? You’d have to waaaay back. Unless there’s a name I’m forgetting?

Logan Henderson debuted on April 20th of this year, btw. He pitched six innings against the A’s that day.
I think these are the latest debut dates included in Update.
Paul Goldschmidt - 8/1/11
Josh Vitters and Brett Jackson - 8/5/12
Cody Asche - 7/30/13
Chris Taylor - 7/24/14
Tyler Saladino - 7/10/15
Steven Brault - 7/5/16
Luke Voit - 6/25/17
Zack Littell - 6/5/18
Tommy Edman - 6/8/19
Yoshi Tsutsugo - 7/26/20 - Only 2020 debut that I found with an Update Card
Chris Gittens - 6/5/21
Chase Silseth - 5/13/22
Grant Anderson - 5/30/23
Zach DeLoach - 5/22/24
Yarmil Hiraldo and Drew Avans - 5/27/25
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Old 09-30-2025, 01:02 PM   #94
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I think these are the latest debut dates included in Update.
Paul Goldschmidt - 8/1/11
Josh Vitters and Brett Jackson - 8/5/12
Cody Asche - 7/30/13
Chris Taylor - 7/24/14
Tyler Saladino - 7/10/15
Steven Brault - 7/5/16
Luke Voit - 6/25/17
Zack Littell - 6/5/18
Tommy Edman - 6/8/19
Yoshi Tsutsugo - 7/26/20 - Only 2020 debut that I found with an Update Card
Chris Gittens - 6/5/21
Chase Silseth - 5/13/22
Grant Anderson - 5/30/23
Zach DeLoach - 5/22/24
You hit me with a few May debuts, but in reference to my question, it looks like Chris Gittens back in 2021 was the last player to debut in June or later and be in Update. Might be the last time we see that happen for a loooong time.
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You hit me with a few May debuts, but in reference to my question, it looks like Chris Gittens back in 2021 was the last player to debut in June or later and be in Update. Might be the last time we see that happen for a loooong time.
As long as I was pulling debuts and checklists I figured I'd just do them all to current (just added 2025).
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As long as I was pulling debuts and checklists I figured I'd just do them all to current (just added 2025).
For me I think we’re just seeing a fuzzy cutoff date that has been hovering around late May for a while now. I know some people have conspiracy theories on this, but if Fanatics was looking to boost sales of a product that needed the boost, manipulating the cuff off to have Roman Anthony IN ‘25 Update would seem to be the play. Series 1 will do just fine without him. And as we’re seeing here, Update seems to be selling just fine without him too. I don’t know if one single player’s RC moves the needle much at release.
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I missed presale of this yesterday. This is the first flagship product this year that I can think of that didn’t last a day on pre-sale. Does this mean this is following recent trends and going mostly to breakers? If so, that’d seriously suck for a flagship product.
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For me I think we’re just seeing a fuzzy cutoff date that has been hovering around late May for a while now. I know some people have conspiracy theories on this, but if Fanatics was looking to boost sales of a product that needed the boost, manipulating the cuff off to have Roman Anthony IN ‘25 Update would seem to be the play. Series 1 will do just fine without him. And as we’re seeing here, Update seems to be selling just fine without him too. I don’t know if one single player’s RC moves the needle much at release.
Very fuzzy indeed. 2022 I thought maybe I goofed something up, or there were no debuts in late May. Nope, there were guys debuted on 5/17 that weren't in until 2023 Topps. Maybe later tonight I can throw in the debut date after the above cutoff that didn't make it also.
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I think these are the latest debut dates included in Update.
Paul Goldschmidt - 8/1/11
Josh Vitters and Brett Jackson - 8/5/12
Cody Asche - 7/30/13
Chris Taylor - 7/24/14
Tyler Saladino - 7/10/15
Steven Brault - 7/5/16
Luke Voit - 6/25/17
Zack Littell - 6/5/18
Tommy Edman - 6/8/19
Yoshi Tsutsugo - 7/26/20 - Only 2020 debut that I found with an Update Card
Chris Gittens - 6/5/21
Chase Silseth - 5/13/22
Grant Anderson - 5/30/23
Zach DeLoach - 5/22/24
Yarmil Hiraldo and Drew Avans - 5/27/25
What sticks out as funny to me about 2019 is Tommy Edman was the cutoff on 6/8. Yordan Alvarez debuted the next day on 6/9 and we had to wait until 2020 for the RC shield. I remember sitting at work on 6/10 refreshing every minute for hours in anticipation of them releasing a Topps Now auto for him homering in his debut. Was reasonably priced too. I think it was $60 or $70 for the /99.
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BO has this up now with listed release date of 10/15. That's a couple of weeks earlier than I expected, if that is in fact correct.
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