Salary Cap/Pending Lockout Thread

[mrmojorisin71]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

you're just playing devil's advocate to bait me and I will not take it sir

Does it make last years ALCS more or less palatable if Clase cheated?

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

you're just playing devil's advocate to bait me and I will not take it sir

Not at all

It’s a lock… pun intended

They won’t have a 162 game season. You can write that down

[corockies]

There needs to be some wording in the next contract that punishes owners like the Monforts with the Rockies to field a competitive team every year. They learned years ago that the turnstiles in Denver represent out of town fans a lot more than Rockies fans overall. Attendance for the Rockies is almost always top 10 in the league regardless of how bad or good the Rockies are.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by mrmojorisin71

Accurate and let’s not forget the torque he puts on his elbow with that throwing motion. He’s a TJ waiting to happen.

You should not be rewarded for putting together an inferior product, it’s unamerican and just disgusting. No regular Joe wants to see a millionaire give another millionaire millions just to keep their ass product around for people to not care about.

What is it with you and all this anti american / unamerican crap? Good Lord.

[brothertona]

I just don’t see the league agreeing to a salary floor, I definitely see them pushing for a cap but I don’t see them wanting a floor. Also Bryce Harper has been worth every cent, Phillies have won regularly since he arrived. The Yankees are still snake bit from not going after Harper. Ohtani is worth every cent. Why should they get paid less because of cheap owners?


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[corockies]

Originally Posted by brothertona

I just don’t see the league agreeing to a salary floor, I definitely see them pushing for a cap but I don’t see them wanting a floor. Also Bryce Harper has been worth every cent, Phillies have won regularly since he arrived. The Yankees are still snake bit from not going after Harper. Ohtani is worth every cent. Why should they get paid less because of cheap owners?


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Ohtani will eventually be worth every penny. That backloaded deal should have never been allowed. Most teams have a hard enough time competing with the Dodgers, bending the contract rules like they did with Ohtani makes it even harder to compete.

[Raleigh504]

So what the MLB needs to do is:
- Salary floor & ceiling (have a bird type of rights where you can go over it if the player has only played in the MLB for your team and accumulated X amount of years of service)
- Pool the TV money together
- Get rid of blackouts & allow streaming of just team or all games
- Keep regional channels, but also have it national. Have deals with multiple companies & streaming platforms for weekly games at specific times. Rotate which teams are broadcasted (even change on the fly if two teams are at the top), just like the football way and do it by geography of the teams playing with one being game A, then game B and so on for where it is shown.
- Expand by 2 teams right after so MLBPA gets more people in the majors than previously

[Raleigh504]

Originally Posted by Handsome Wes

My $0.02:

the cheap teams are still being cheap. Marlins are spending as much money today as they were 15 years ago.

The upper echelon teams are spending more, so in one sense there is a greater disparity.

Now, go back to the early 2000s and the Yankees were spending $200 million, which is less than it is today (by a little) but basically the equivalent to what entire teams were worth. There is no way that the Yankees are spending the equivalent of a franchise value (low $1 billions?) today... so in a sense, there is not as much disparity.

I think one of the big issues though is the growing refusal of certain owners to keep pace with increased spending.... and it's not just a small vs. big market thing. Owners of large market franchises - the Angels, teh White Sox, formerly the A's - won't spend... and now we have Hal Steinbrenner of the Yankees and John Henry of the Red Sox - Henry worth $6 billion but since he treats the team like a hedge fund he won't pony up to pay Mookie Betts - are now crying foul because the Dodgers and the Mets and the Phillies and (possibly, I haven't followed the latest ownership drama) Padres and heck even the Blue Jays are handing out $500 million contracts.

Also the issue with MLB compared to other leagues is that there are alot of owners who bought franchises for $50-200M and now it is worth $2-5B while there net worth is basically the value of the franchise. They are essentially people worth $300M paying a guy to play a sport for 10 years $500M

[Skipscards]

There may be a strike or a lockout but there will not be a salary cap.

[carlo16]

Shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. This has been coming for awhile now. Zero chance at a full season next year. Chances are no 2026 season at all.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by carlo16

Shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. This has been coming for awhile now. Zero chance at a full season next year. Chances are no 2026 season at all.

100% chance of a 2026 season. It doesn't expire until Dec of 2026. But 2027 is in jeopardy for sure.

[carlo16]

Originally Posted by premium1981

100% chance of a 2026 season. It doesn't expire until Dec of 2026. But 2027 is in jeopardy for sure.

What a stupid I am.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by carlo16

What a stupid I am.

We all are. Its just a matter of when it shines through.

[Handsome Wes]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

There may be a strike or a lockout but there will not be a salary cap.

I think you'll see something akin to what happened last time. The two sides go weeks without meeting, games get cancelled, fans are upset

and then you'll probably see tougher penalties on the super high spenders, some form of revenue sharing, and the players conceding on all this because they'll get a higher minimum salaries for pre-arb contracts and a few nicer sandwich options in the clubhouse.

[anusinha]

blah blah blah, nothing will happen until midnight of the day before games are going to get cancelled.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Handsome Wes

I think you'll see something akin to what happened last time. The two sides go weeks without meeting, games get cancelled, fans are upset



and then you'll probably see tougher penalties on the super high spenders, some form of revenue sharing, and the players conceding on all this because they'll get a higher minimum salaries for pre-arb contracts and a few nicer sandwich options in the clubhouse.

I'm not so sure this time. I don't think the owners will cave this time. The players will eventually cave after missing a whole season. They will end up trading a higher percent of revenue and a salary floor for a salary cap. And baseball will be better for it.

[hermanotarjeta]

Will a lockout kill fanatics’ goose that lays golden eggs?

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Will a lockout kill fanatics’ goose that lays golden eggs?

Topps licensed Basketball and Football will be an unstoppable freight train. Even if they never sold another baseball card they would more than cover with whats coming.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by JRX

The talent pool is deeper now than at any point in the history of the sport.

Then why only a 6% participation rate from African Americans? That is the lowest since 1955 when all teams weren't even integrated.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by rats60

Then why only a 6% participation rate from African Americans? That is the lowest since 1955 when all teams weren't even integrated.

What the heck does race have to do with anything? Go ask them why they aren't playing.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by rats60

Then why only a 6% participation rate from African Americans? That is the lowest since 1955 when all teams weren't even integrated.

What was the participation rate in 1955 for football, basketball, track and field? It couldn't possibly be that they play other sports over baseball.