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Old 03-02-2025, 12:35 PM   #226
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I have her checkerboard prizm.

Is there a breakdown of which parallels are in retail vs hobby? Trying to do some retail case breaks of this.
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Cracked Ice
Blue Velocity
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Red Pulsar /299
Blue Pulsar /199
Green Pulsar /25
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Old 03-02-2025, 01:07 PM   #227
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I thought last night's auctions did great for the most part. A lot of volume with retail hitting but sales seemed strong. The CC variation just isn't as popular either. Sales on that have been lower and there seems to be more of those getting listed than the true silvers, which suggests people are either holding or grading the true silvers.

Night of the week hasn't mattered since smart phones fully transitioned. People avoided Fridays/Saturdays in the past because people were less likely to be home bidding. Now people are bidding from anywhere so I utilize all 7 nights when I run auctions.
Going to disagree with you on that. I’m going to end an auction on a Sunday night over Friday/Saturday every chance I get.
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Old 03-02-2025, 02:38 PM   #228
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The CC variation just isn't as popular either. Sales on that have been lower and there seems to be more of those getting listed than the true silvers, which suggests people are either holding or grading the true silvers.
I think it's that one true rookie mentality over aesthetics of what is a better looking card (#145)
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Old 03-02-2025, 04:59 PM   #229
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Retail blasters:

Cracked Ice
Blue Velocity
Green
Checkerboard
Red Pulsar /299
Blue Pulsar /199
Green Pulsar /25
Black Finite /1
Thank you. Are there autos in retail? Any only the plain cracked ice right? Colored ice is hobby only?
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Old 03-02-2025, 11:53 PM   #230
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I think it's that one true rookie mentality over aesthetics of what is a better looking card (#145)
I agree, the variation/#145 is the much better photo. The action shot looks like unlicensed garbage.
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Old 03-05-2025, 12:57 PM   #231
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EDIT: Ok, I got it figured out.

I averaged 5 #'d per case.

Between base and inserts, there are 101,000 total #'d cards.

That would mean about 20k blaster cases.

There are 120 ice per case so 16,000 per player, and there are two CC base cards. 32,000 total CC ice.
For the record- the total number of blaster cases would include Logo Prizm Blasters. The question is how how of the 20K Cases is Logo. 1K would be /160 not numbered per CC.
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Old 03-05-2025, 03:34 PM   #232
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I'm such an idiot. Went to Walmart to and saw "prizm" and bought 4. The cards are behind the counter and the lady picked 4 for me. I paid and left. Got to the car and realized 3 of them were prizm draft and 1 prizm blaster. This is dumb how prizm draft and regular prizm are the same color. I went back and picked up 3 more regular prizm. It's my fault but that's kind of ridiculous. Worked out either way for me.
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Old 03-05-2025, 03:38 PM   #233
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I grabbed a few blasters this week too, guessing most stores will get some stock.
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Old 03-05-2025, 03:51 PM   #234
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2024 Panini Prizm WNBA Premium Box Set. Caitlin Clark auto number to 35 one per on average lol!! 10 K starting price. Next Monday. any takers? Reeeeeediculous.
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Old 03-05-2025, 05:57 PM   #235
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2024 Panini Prizm WNBA Premium Box Set. Caitlin Clark auto number to 35 one per on average lol!! 10 K starting price. Next Monday. any takers? Reeeeeediculous.
Has there ever been anything like this? Almost all of the product value is in the Caitlin Clark. The rest of the set, which they are selling for a minimum of $2,500, is worth what $250?

With how much percentage of the print run that Panini has been preselling of these auction products who even knows how many of these sets will be available. There are only 99. It wouldn't shock me if 20 or less of these are available during the auction.

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Old 03-05-2025, 06:17 PM   #236
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Has there ever been anything like this? Almost all of the product value is in the Caitlin Clark. The rest of the set, which they are selling for a minimum of $2,500, is worth what $250?
I'm not buying, but you'd also get her #22 and #145 cards as scope parallels /99.
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Old 03-05-2025, 06:23 PM   #237
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If the Caitlin was on card at least, there’d be some argument of it being worth at least the $5K to roll the dice. Still absolutely insane that the WNBA product can’t even grow because it’s all degen gamblers/breakers fueling the fire with these prices.
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Old 03-05-2025, 06:26 PM   #238
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I'm not buying, but you'd also get her #22 and #145 cards as scope parallels /99.
The value in those is very little in comparison to how much these sets will cost. The auto is worth more than the rest of the box combined and it's not even close. Those 2 Cailtin /99 non pack pulled cards will be worth what around $800 each? The value is almost all in the auto.

Just with how few of boxes there will be available during the auction and the big 1/1 chase these will most likely "sell out" very quickly. If they were all available and there was no chance of CT scanning they would probably go much lower but that doesn't really matter.
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Old 03-05-2025, 06:33 PM   #239
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Those 2 Cailtin /99 non pack pulled cards will be worth what around $800 each?
I was actually thinking they would go for less, but $1600 for both cards is a decent amount. What do you think a /35 scope auto would go for?
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Old 03-05-2025, 06:40 PM   #240
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I was actually thinking they would go for less, but $1600 for both cards is a decent amount. What do you think a /35 scope auto would go for?
I don't know. If it's less than $1600 for those 2 cards that's even worse. The reason for years these sets have usually always sold out way lower than the actual value is no one wants to piece out cheap cards. If a regular buyer is buying these they would have zero interest in having to sell a least 140 of those 150 /99 cards. Are even 10 of the base cards worth more than $20 each?

I guess it doesn't matter as most likely every set is going to a breaker. For breaks how would you even sell the breaks knowing that 147 of the 151 cards are worth close to nothing? I guess it just adds to the logic that 98-99% of people that buy into breaks lose money.

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Old 03-05-2025, 06:52 PM   #241
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I'm most curious about is that there's 98 possible autos but 99 sets. /35, /25, /22, /10, /5, /1 = 98. Who is getting duped?
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I don't know.
Me either, mossohomie. Me either.
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Still absolutely insane that the WNBA product can’t even grow because it’s all degen gamblers/breakers fueling the fire with these prices.
It's absolutely mind-boggling.
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Old 03-05-2025, 08:32 PM   #244
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Has there ever been anything like this? Almost all of the product value is in the Caitlin Clark. The rest of the set, which they are selling for a minimum of $2,500, is worth what $250?

With how much percentage of the print run that Panini has been preselling of these auction products who even knows how many of these sets will be available. There are only 99. It wouldn't shock me if 20 or less of these are available during the auction.
and they will probably be an instant sell out.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:57 PM   #245
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Not saying it makes sense but people will definitely justify the guaranteed Caitlins being worth it over taking a gamble giving current WNBA hobby prices and this will sell out way too high.
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Old 03-05-2025, 10:14 PM   #246
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So is this a better or worse deal than Topps mercury?
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:15 AM   #247
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If anyone buys a box set and wants to move the 148 non Caitlin Clark base, I’m a buyer!

Wife would love to have the set #d /99
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:50 AM   #248
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Hype reminds me of Zion. “I want my Zion Rookie card!!” - heard that a lot out hunting retail stores
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:54 AM   #249
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I'm most curious about is that there's 98 possible autos but 99 sets. /35, /25, /22, /10, /5, /1 = 98. Who is getting duped?
We all are, agreed?
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Caitlin is going to have the same problem as Wemby. Don't get me wrong, I like both players and have a few. Everybody is going crazy finding blasters with them in it and getting excited on all the pulls. Fast forward a few months and we all realize there is a metric ton of their rookies. PSA has already graded close 500K Wembys. 120K of Clark. The Clarks are going to balloon once all the Prizm cycles through. I am sure SGC has graded their fare share already as well. How much as Wemby dropped since the early hype? Caitlin will be the same.
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