Patrick Mahomes Prices

[MotorboatJones]

How much would a sealed box of 2017 Hobby Select Football sell for if you could find one for sale ?

Edit. Redid my search and found a few that sold recently actually. $4000-$5500

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

Funny people say this kinda stuff but won’t put money on it…if you had to put a money that the dynasty is done, you wouldn’t..speaks volumes

My friend, I gamble in casinos on football (college and pro) more than you can possibly imagine, but sorry to say there is no "KC dynasty is over" wager available on the Vegas boards.

[KardsC1]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

My friend, I gamble in casinos on football (college and pro) more than you can possibly imagine, but sorry to say there is no "KC dynasty is over" wager available on the Vegas boards.

Of course, just saying..you also probably said the dynasty was over after tyreek left…I mean it’s like saying it’s going to rain , eventually it will And you will then be correct…just like folks who always scream recession is coming ..

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

How much would a sealed box of 2017 Hobby Select Football sell for if you could find one for sale ?

Edit. Redid my search and found a few that sold recently actually. $4000-$5500

They're about $4k or a bit less typically (most of the major card sellers will buy for about $2.5k and sell about $3.5 or $4k on them). Getting really hard to find...

https://www.blowoutcards.com/2017-pa...hobby-box.html

Like most 2017 sealed, probably would've risen 10-20% had KC won 3rd SB in a row.

...The 2017 Optic, Panini base, Donruss base, Contenders, Playoff, etc - even Prizm - are a lot more available in terms of boxes, mega, packs, blaster, etc.

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

Of course, just saying..you also probably said the dynasty was over after tyreek left…

I don't think anyone was calling it a dynasty back then.

Originally Posted by KardsC1

I mean it’s like saying it’s going to rain , eventually it will And you will then be correct…just like folks who always scream recession is coming ..

You're absolutely correct. And you know what? No one feels sorry for you because even after losing the SB, you are indeed still the current dynasty in the NFL. So just deal with the naysayers and be happy you have so many.

[KardsC1]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

I don't think anyone was calling it a dynasty back then.
You're absolutely correct. And you know what? No one feels sorry for you because you are indeed the current dynasty in the NFL. So just deal with the haters and be happy you have so many.

You know what I mean..you along with a lot of folks said mahomes will never win another SB..

[weeds73]

Originally Posted by slyguy

They're about $4k or a bit less typically (most of the major card sellers will buy for about $2.5k and sell about $3.5 or $4k on them). Getting really hard to find...

https://www.blowoutcards.com/2017-pa...hobby-box.html

Like most 2017 sealed, probably would've risen 10-20% had KC won 3rd SB in a row.

...The 2017 Optic, Panini base, Donruss base, Contenders, Playoff, etc - even Prizm - are a lot more available in terms of boxes, mega, packs, blaster, etc.

I miss the days when select was awesome like it was in 2017. So disappointed that they ruined that brand with Retail crap


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[weeds73]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Davante is very old and he's VERY psychologically frail.

A guy who follows Aaron Rodgers like a puppy?
A guy who goes to a team because David friggin Carr is the QB?
A guy who quit on the Raiders 2024 midseason? Cmon.
... you want that mess as a team who has been to 5 of the last 6 SBs? No.

If you have a decent OL, Mahomes can do the rest. Bonus if you have a run game. We've seen it time and time again. Hollywood + Xavier + Kelce is fine (Rice when able). Worthy got much stronger as the season went on. It's the same with most HOF level QBs... WRs help, but the QBs make it happen.

This is a deep draft for RBs in 2025. KC can get OL, RB, WR, and whatever else. Pacheco got back from the ankle fracture with little rehab time, but I'm sure they'll get a mid/late round RB as Perine and Hunt are old and Carson Steele is pathetic (probably camp roster cuts candidate).

...Davante Adams can go rot on Cleveland or Pats whoever is dumb enough to pay him at his age 32 season - turns 33 before 2025 season ends. I'm sure the momma's boy will wait to see where Aaron Rodgers goes... and then sign there.

You may be right that he will follow Rodgers or Carr again. But, he’s been burned the last couple of times he has done that. The Saints don’t have the cap availability to pursue Davante and Carr is on very tenuous ground anyway. Who knows if Rodgers will even be picked up this season… I am not sold on Hollywood Brown, as he is one of the least durable wide receivers in the NFL. Dhop was great, but he is clearly on his last leg. I know that Davante is getting old, but he would be fun to have at a price. I don’t see somebody breaking the bank to sign him to a long-term deal. Probably a one to two year type gig. I would definitely take him over Hopkins and Brown. He would be motivated to win a ring.

I would just love to see the Chiefs pick up a true alpha receiver that can go up and get the ball. I’m tired of all of these fragile, finesse receivers. Would love to see them go after somebody like DK Metcalf or Tee Higgins, but I just don’t see how that is possible cost wise. Godwin is a good receiver as well, but he will cost a lot of money and also seems to be injury prone. Cooper Kupp is likely in the same camp cost wise as Adams. Not really excited about Stefon Diggs, given his drama and recent injury.

We just like to see the Chiefs get a decent wide receiver as Rashee Rice will likely be out for the first six games of the season with his suspension and worthy is not a WR1


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[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

You know what I mean..you along with a lot of folks said mahomes will never win another SB..

Making things up out of thin air is very unbecoming, and only makes your thesis look weaker in a discussion.

[sethc1020]

Originally Posted by weeds73

So guys, what do you think about signing Davante? I think I would take him over Hopkins and Brown. Not sure what he would cost and whether we would have to commit to more than a year. Gives him shot at a ring


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I don't like it, I don't want any more older washed WRs that were once good. We've been down that road too many times with Juju, Hopkins, Hollywood, MVS, Toney, Watkins, ect, ect. I like our core now with Worthy and Rice as long as Rice comes back 100%. Just need to add one more guy that's not past their prime.

At RB I like Pacheco but with his size and running style he won't be around long will probably never play a full season. Hunt didn't have a big ypc# but having a horrible O-Line and limited WR options to help pull the defense off the line didn't help to create many holes. I think with a healthy Rice, Worthy, & Kelce and a beefed up O-line these 2 RBs will be fine for now.

[KardsC1]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

Making things up out of thin air is very unbecoming, and only makes your thesis look weaker in a discussion.

Remember ?? After tyreek was traded, chiefs was going to finish last in the division?? Yeah that crazy talk..don’t act like that discussion never happened

[jjrpilot]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

How much would a sealed box of 2017 Hobby Select Football sell for if you could find one for sale ?

Edit. Redid my search and found a few that sold recently actually. $4000-$5500

Not sure why you would want to buy sealed 17' wax. Odds are you won't pull a Mahomes and you could spend that money to actually buy the Mahomes that would have come out of the box.

Anyone buying sealed 17' sealed wax will most likely get burned.

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

You know what I mean..you along with a lot of folks said mahomes will never win another SB..

Noone said that, but also there's no guarantee he'll ever come back. Chiefs are on cap hell right now in case you didnt know

THE CHIEFS ARE USING 63% PERCENT OF THEIR
CAP SPACE ON JUST 5 PLAYERS.


Patrick Mahomes: $66.3M
Chris Jones: $34.9M
Jawaan Taylor: $27.4M
Joe Thuney: $27.0M
Travis Kelce: $19.8M


= 175 million dollars

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by weeds73

...I would just love to see the Chiefs pick up a true alpha receiver that can go up and get the ball. I’m tired of all of these fragile, finesse receivers. Would love to see them go after somebody like DK Metcalf or Tee Higgins, but I just don’t see how that is possible cost wise. Godwin is a good receiver as well, but he will cost a lot of money and also seems to be injury prone. Cooper Kupp is likely in the same camp cost wise as Adams. Not really excited about Stefon Diggs, given his drama and recent injury.

We just like to see the Chiefs get a decent wide receiver as Rashee Rice will likely be out for the first six games of the season with his suspension and worthy is not a WR1...

Garrett Wilson is phenomenal and will be out of NYJ this offseason via trade or next one via FA, but he will be looking for a trade-and-PAID.

I don't think KC can swing that. It'd be better than Tyreek, though.

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

Remember ?? After tyreek was traded, chiefs was going to finish last in the division?? Yeah that crazy talk..don’t act like that discussion never happened

Nobody speaks for me but me, and I am not responsible for what other people say. If you had such discussions with other people then good for you, but I'll thank you not to lie about things I may or may not have said.

If you check my posting history (which I am sure you have) you will see that I have consistently said that Kelce has always been more important to Mahomes than Tyreek. So losing his #2 guy might hurt, but it certainly wouldn't be an automatic disqualifier.

[jacksonjj]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

Funny people say this kinda stuff but won’t put money on it…if you had to put a money that the dynasty is done, you wouldn’t..speaks volumes

It's generally just wishful thinking that the dynasty is over. They just went 15-1 and played another SB. Any bettor would put money that next year's team on paper will be better than this year's team, which is saying something.

No team has ever had a chance at 3 peating, but they barely crack the top 5 dynasties?? I get they got beat bad, but recency bias is crazy.

Mahomes revenge tour coming...

[jacksonjj]

I keep waiting for the big dip to come so I can buy in on the cheap, but the big dip hasn't arrived yet. Stocks and crypto are on the correction crash so I figured the Patty cards were gunna come doooown.

[Earlsnake07]

Joe Tunney traded to Chicago for a 2026 4th

O-line definitely got even weaker today, but in Veach we trust

[jjrpilot]

Originally Posted by Earlsnake07

Joe Tunney traded to Chicago for a 2026 4th

O-line definitely got even weaker today, but in Veach we trust

No joke but it frees up cap space.

Let's.............go...? haha

[jacksonjj]

Originally Posted by Earlsnake07

Joe Tunney traded to Chicago for a 2026 4th

O-line definitely got even weaker today, but in Veach we trust

Yeah it was just too much dam money for a guard.

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by jacksonjj

It's generally just wishful thinking that the dynasty is over. They just went 15-1 and played another SB. Any bettor would put money that next year's team on paper will be better than this year's team, which is saying something.

There is not a single bettor on the planet who will bet on over 15 wins for KC next year. Period.

You guys just traded one of the best guards in football. Don't plan on replacing him with the #31 pick in the draft.

Originally Posted by jacksonjj

No team has ever had a chance at 3 peating, but they barely crack the top 5 dynasties??

I hope you are not quoting me, because that's not what I said. (With all due respect, you KC fans have this awful tendency to drastically rewrite what other people say, then you respond to what your imagination came up with and not what was actually said)

Originally Posted by jacksonjj

Mahomes revenge tour coming...

oh my sweet, sweet summer child.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Earlsnake07

Joe Tunney traded to Chicago for a 2026 4th

O-line definitely got even weaker today, but in Veach we trust

I assume they have a plan...

The takes around here were wild when they traded away Tyreek. That worked out well.

Anybody who talks about Mahomes having a $66MM cap hit this year like they know what they're saying, despite having a cap number at $32MM in 2028, $35MM in 2029, $45MM in 2030, and $48MM in 2031, is a absolute moron.

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I assume they have a plan...

The takes around here were wild when they traded away Tyreek. That worked out well.

Anybody who talks about Mahomes having a $66MM cap hit this year like they know what they're saying, despite having a cap number at $32MM in 2028, $35MM in 2029, $45MM in 2030, and $48MM in 2031, is a absolute moron.

They are going to restructure Mahomes' cap number this year down by about $35 million but IIRC (and also depending on which website you believe) they're still over the cap even after losing Thuney.

So even with the inevitable Mahomes restructure, it is not like they have tons of space to play with.

[sethc1020]

The Seahawks released Tyler Lockett. Thats a guy I wouldn't mind seeing them sign if possible. Not really still his prime but as sure handed as they come and could really open up the outside.

[JoshMN]

Crazy that Thuney received more votes than Mahomes in the NFL AP Offensive Player of the Year voting. Thuney ended up 10th (two 4th place votes) while Mahomes was 18th (a single 5th place vote). Sounds like that should be a typo, but it's not.

Thuney was the only O-lineman receiving votes for that particular award.

You think Mahomes got jealous and ran him out of town? (LOL)