NHL Four Nations Faceoff Thread - Page 4

ZappBrannigan · 02-20-2025, 11:46 PM

USA gets their ass kicked again by Canada.

Giroux · 02-20-2025, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZappBrannigan

USA gets their ass kicked again by Canada.

Ass kicked?

hxcmilkshake · 02-21-2025, 12:08 AM

Austin Matthews won't sleep tonight. Robbed 3x in OT.

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Archangel1775 · 02-21-2025, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

Austin Matthews won't sleep tonight. Robbed 3x in OT.

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Ugh, man. Glad it came down to two of the best though.

Giroux · 02-21-2025, 12:57 AM

Good game Canada. Fun tournament. We'll get you in the Olympics.

BostonNut · 02-21-2025, 06:44 AM

Man what a game. Binnington was clutch.

hairysasquatch · 02-21-2025, 07:22 AM

Great game. Exciting hockey. Now back to boring regular season until playoffs when pro hockey becomes watchable again.

hairysasquatch · 02-21-2025, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

Effing Canada. F them

Sour grapes! You and Puddlemonkey.

Boo · 02-21-2025, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Great game. Exciting hockey. Now back to boring regular season until playoffs when pro hockey becomes watchable again.

Watching Hip on roller blades > NHL regular season

Jazz Chisholm · 02-21-2025, 08:51 AM

Totally worth staying up for just to see Americans’ crybaby tears flowing

kellmuff · 02-21-2025, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

Americans could be heard singing along with the Canadian national anthem? I'm going to call BS on that one Sean McDonough

I mean the boo'ing was pretty clear on TV

Anyways, they'll never beat us when it truly counts. Roll on Milan on big ice that'll hurt them more than us too. Guys like Brady wont be nearly as effective.

Bettman should be in prison for denying us McDavid and MacKinnon in the Olympics prior to this.

and I'm seeing A LOT of tears re Hughes and McAvoy not playing while ignoring we had 3 of our top 6 dmen out. Lmao.

PatchSentinel · 02-21-2025, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kellmuff

Bettman should be in prison for denying us McDavid and MacKinnon in the Olympics prior to this.

They said last night on one of the broadcasts that it has a lot to do with team owners not wanting their star players to get hurt, which makes total sense. This was a fun yet meaningless tournament. Just look at Matthew Tkachuk getting injured and who will be out for a while now.

stoopid · 02-21-2025, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PatchSentinel

They said last night on one of the broadcasts that it has a lot to do with team owners not wanting their star players to get hurt, which makes total sense. This was a fun yet meaningless tournament. Just look at Matthew Tkachuk getting injured and who will be out for a while now.

Decisions are going to need to be made. Losing players with so much of the season and playoffs coming is bad form. These are just the injuries we know of, there were supposedly team Canada players also battling through things.

Grave252 · 02-21-2025, 10:21 AM

I've always thought the injury talk was nonsensical in a way. I get no one wants their star players to get hurt, but injuries are a matter of luck. These are well conditioned athletes and it's still the same sport. Your odds of injury are the same no matter what jersey you have on. I get there is a rest element, but again, half these guys won't even be in the postseason so playing 4 more games is not a relevant factor in my opinion. It can be a big win for owners having their players represent the national team on a huge stage. There's probably thousands of kids that watched that game last night and heard their NHL team called and are now looking at their parents asking them to spend money on a game, concessions, merch, etc. I am not a "grow the game" truther type, but to me these "international" events can have a massive impact at the local level and for NHL teams.

PatchSentinel · 02-21-2025, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by stoopid

Decisions are going to need to be made. Losing players with so much of the season and playoffs coming is bad form. These are just the injuries we know of, there were supposedly team Canada players also battling through things.

If the players want to play more international hockey, maybe create some sort of insurance fund or something that will cover the salary of the injured player. Something like that.

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Originally Posted by Grave252

I've always thought the injury talk was nonsensical in a way. I get no one wants their star players to get hurt, but injuries are a matter of luck. These are well conditioned athletes and it's still the same sport. Your odds of injury are the same no matter what jersey you have on. I get there is a rest element, but again, half these guys won't even be in the postseason so playing 4 more games is not a relevant factor in my opinion. It can be a big win for owners having their players represent the national team on a huge stage. There's probably thousands of kids that watched that game last night and heard their NHL team called and are now looking at their parents asking them to spend money on a game, concessions, merch, etc. I am not a "grow the game" truther type, but to me these "international" events can have a massive impact at the local level and for NHL teams.

I don't agree it's nonsensical. You play for the Stanley Cup. If you're a team owner, then you're paying millions for an injured player if they get injured for a meaningless tournament. And it could cost you a run at the Stanley Cup. The Olympics are more meaningful for international players, sure, but it's still not the holy grail that the Cup is for any of these players.

I mean, what's the goal, here? To make this mini-tournament more popular than the main dish (the Cup)? It was a perfect storm of the Canada vs USA bruhahah in facets other than hockey. If it was Russia vs Finland would that draw the newbies in the same way? Not likely. All those kids can go back to caring about field sports now.

Giroux · 02-21-2025, 11:20 AM

Goal is to get people into the sport. For example I have to go back to watching the absolutely crummy product that is the Philadelphia Flyers. No one is getting into the game watching them but watching and cheering for Team USA was a blast

Asian62150 · 02-21-2025, 12:11 PM

Someone had to be making money off the 4NFO. They didn't put that on for free, especially not when ticket prices to get in the door last night were over $2K.

If they offer up those profits to the NHL owners, I'm sure they would be less hesitant to let their star players participate.

As much as teams/owners say they care about winning the Cup (and I'm sure some of them do), they care more about money.

PatchSentinel · 02-21-2025, 12:35 PM

People need to show up to the 80+ regular games too and will pay more to see star players. You'll get more fairweather fans when the team is consistently good as well. There are a lot of promo opportunities for the home market in having a good team; you need ticket sales and merch for all the regular season games, too. Harder to sell w/out star players if they're carrying most of the team.

Say McDavid got injured and is out for the rest of the season, then Edmonton makes the Cup Final. I guess people think that's a cool risk, so okay. Give the fans - and a lot of the players who want international hockey - that option, in the middle of the season for what is an All-Star game, I guess.

Anyway, sure it was fun. I enjoyed the tournament. Brady Tkachuk said he had never felt anything like that when he scored in the final game. Neat stuff for a young buck playing the game that he can take with him going forward.

Binnington was fantastic and silenced his critics who thought his Game 7 win in 2019 was a fluke. Playing in that barn in Boston must be his favorite, that's for sure.

avalanchefan21 · 02-21-2025, 02:21 PM

fixed....

jlzinck · 02-21-2025, 02:37 PM

Great event

kellmuff · 02-21-2025, 02:40 PM

Love this quote:

Jon Cooper on Team Canada delivering a win for the country: “I just hope Canada’s proud because every player in that room is proud to be a Canadian. And yeah, we needed a win. Not only our team, but Canada needed a win. And the players bared that on their shoulders. This one was different. This wasn’t a win for themselves. This was a win for 40-plus million people, and the guys knew it and they delivered.”

mfw13 · 02-21-2025, 03:09 PM

Would really like to see this expanded to six teams next time around so that the Czechs aren't excluded.

If you want to continue to keep Russia out, then add Slovakia as the sixth team.

Wizlon · 02-21-2025, 03:10 PM

When you have a leader of a military super-power country constantly taunting and threatening you, beating them at hockey is the most cathartic thing for us Canadians.

Also odd choice by the Americans to bench Kyle Connor, but as I Jets fan I approve keeping him out

JohnnyAppleseed · 02-21-2025, 07:42 PM

https://www.reuters.com/sports/recor...ff-2025-02-22/

Got double the ratings of the NBA All-Star Game. Can't wait to see Bettman absolutely run this format into the ground with all the dollar signs in his eyes.

Giroux · 02-21-2025, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyAppleseed

https://www.reuters.com/sports/recor...ff-2025-02-22/

Got double the ratings of the NBA All-Star Game. Can't wait to see Bettman absolutely run this format into the ground with all the dollar signs in his eyes.

I don't think we'll see that. Olympics next year. And they already announced an 8 team World Cup in 2028.

So that's likely:

2026 - Olympics
2027 - All Star Game
2028 - World Cup

Nothing to complain about here for me

02-21-2025, 06:44 AM	#81
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02-21-2025, 07:22 AM	#82
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02-21-2025, 12:11 PM	#92
Asian62150 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 6,540 Asian62150	Someone had to be making money off the 4NFO. They didn't put that on for free, especially not when ticket prices to get in the door last night were over $2K. If they offer up those profits to the NHL owners, I'm sure they would be less hesitant to let their star players participate. As much as teams/owners say they care about winning the Cup (and I'm sure some of them do), they care more about money. __________________ IG: Asian62150

02-21-2025, 02:37 PM	#95
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02-21-2025, 03:10 PM	#98
Wizlon Member Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 11	Sorrie USA When you have a leader of a military super-power country constantly taunting and threatening you, beating them at hockey is the most cathartic thing for us Canadians. Also odd choice by the Americans to bench Kyle Connor, but as I Jets fan I approve keeping him out

02-20-2025, 11:46 PM	#76
ZappBrannigan Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Biafra Posts: 2,381	USA gets their ass kicked again by Canada.

02-21-2025, 12:08 AM	#78
hxcmilkshake Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Apopka FL Posts: 11,500 hxcmilkshake	Austin Matthews won't sleep tonight. Robbed 3x in OT. Sent from my SM-S928U using Tapatalk

02-21-2025, 12:57 AM	#80
Giroux Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: USA Posts: 4,891 cardsgoingup	Good game Canada. Fun tournament. We'll get you in the Olympics.

02-21-2025, 08:51 AM	#85
Jazz Chisholm Banned Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 376	Totally worth staying up for just to see Americans’ crybaby tears flowing

02-21-2025, 10:21 AM	#89
Grave252 Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 564	I've always thought the injury talk was nonsensical in a way. I get no one wants their star players to get hurt, but injuries are a matter of luck. These are well conditioned athletes and it's still the same sport. Your odds of injury are the same no matter what jersey you have on. I get there is a rest element, but again, half these guys won't even be in the postseason so playing 4 more games is not a relevant factor in my opinion. It can be a big win for owners having their players represent the national team on a huge stage. There's probably thousands of kids that watched that game last night and heard their NHL team called and are now looking at their parents asking them to spend money on a game, concessions, merch, etc. I am not a "grow the game" truther type, but to me these "international" events can have a massive impact at the local level and for NHL teams.

02-21-2025, 11:20 AM	#91
Giroux Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: USA Posts: 4,891 cardsgoingup	Goal is to get people into the sport. For example I have to go back to watching the absolutely crummy product that is the Philadelphia Flyers. No one is getting into the game watching them but watching and cheering for Team USA was a blast

02-21-2025, 12:35 PM	#93
PatchSentinel Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,253	People need to show up to the 80+ regular games too and will pay more to see star players. You'll get more fairweather fans when the team is consistently good as well. There are a lot of promo opportunities for the home market in having a good team; you need ticket sales and merch for all the regular season games, too. Harder to sell w/out star players if they're carrying most of the team. Say McDavid got injured and is out for the rest of the season, then Edmonton makes the Cup Final. I guess people think that's a cool risk, so okay. Give the fans - and a lot of the players who want international hockey - that option, in the middle of the season for what is an All-Star game, I guess. Anyway, sure it was fun. I enjoyed the tournament. Brady Tkachuk said he had never felt anything like that when he scored in the final game. Neat stuff for a young buck playing the game that he can take with him going forward. Binnington was fantastic and silenced his critics who thought his Game 7 win in 2019 was a fluke. Playing in that barn in Boston must be his favorite, that's for sure.

02-21-2025, 02:21 PM	#94
avalanchefan21 Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 845	fixed....

02-21-2025, 02:40 PM	#96
kellmuff Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,357	Love this quote: Jon Cooper on Team Canada delivering a win for the country: “I just hope Canada’s proud because every player in that room is proud to be a Canadian. And yeah, we needed a win. Not only our team, but Canada needed a win. And the players bared that on their shoulders. This one was different. This wasn’t a win for themselves. This was a win for 40-plus million people, and the guys knew it and they delivered.”

02-21-2025, 03:09 PM	#97
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,553	Would really like to see this expanded to six teams next time around so that the Czechs aren't excluded. If you want to continue to keep Russia out, then add Slovakia as the sixth team.

02-21-2025, 07:42 PM	#99
JohnnyAppleseed Member Join Date: May 2022 Posts: 722 breadposter JohnnyAppleseed	https://www.reuters.com/sports/recor...ff-2025-02-22/ Got double the ratings of the NBA All-Star Game. Can't wait to see Bettman absolutely run this format into the ground with all the dollar signs in his eyes.