2025 Topps Disney Genesis (Disney Debut)

[dd316]

Originally Posted by LM14500

There are already 2024 Chrome and Sapphire Marvels sets aswell as the 2023 and 2024 Disney ones, this Genesis set is never going to keep value

https://uk.topps.com/catalogsearch/result?q=marvel

https://uk.topps.com/catalogsearch/result?q=disney

Those aren't US releases. Yeah, semantics, but a US release is going to hold stronger than anything released in other territories.

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by LM14500

Not gonna get much better than this lol

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296802255...mis&media=COPY

God knows why they felt they could call Genesis a debut

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see Topps calling this a debut anywhere. I only see OP saying that in the thread title.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by dd316

I have a feeling once a proper Marvel set comes out people will forget all about this Frankenstein of a set and you'll see boxes dip. Singles should keep strong, though, as everyone will want Wolverine's Topps rookie card.

2001 Topps Marvel Legends



Well and all those 2000 X-Men Movie cards but that’s not the same thing

[SouthEastCards]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see Topps calling this a debut anywhere. I only see OP saying that in the thread title.

Yes that was in reference to the US license moving to Fanatics from Upper Deck

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by bub838

2022? It went past $1000 a box at one point.

"At one point" is the key part of your phrase, where are they at now? Last I checked, they were basically sitting at MSRP. So again, no idea if Genesis goes up or down but judging by most of history with these hyped-up sets, I'd be wary of considering boxes investment material.

[LM14500]

Originally Posted by dd316

Those aren't US releases. Yeah, semantics, but a US release is going to hold stronger than anything released in other territories.

lol, no they aren't. Nothing is going to trump Chrome or Sapphire, it doesn't matter which territory it was released. Genesis is a sack of #@#@#@#@ in comparison.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by LM14500

Yeh, the first £1995 sale has disappeared from Terapeak now.

These needed to ship tomorrow for anyone to make decent money flipping, they're gonna tank now.

Originally Posted by LM14500

There are already 2024 Chrome and Sapphire Marvels sets aswell as the 2023 and 2024 Disney ones, this Genesis set is never going to keep value

https://uk.topps.com/catalogsearch/result?q=marvel

https://uk.topps.com/catalogsearch/result?q=disney

Originally Posted by LM14500

Not gonna get much better than this lol

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296802255...mis&media=COPY

God knows why they felt they could call Genesis a debut

Originally Posted by LM14500

lol, no they aren't. Nothing is going to trump Chrome or Sapphire, it doesn't matter which territory it was released. Genesis is a sack of #@#@#@#@ in comparison.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

"At one point" is the key part of your phrase, where are they at now? Last I checked, they were basically sitting at MSRP. So again, no idea if Genesis goes up or down but judging by most of history with these hyped-up sets, I'd be wary of considering boxes investment material.

"it didn't happen" is the key part of your phrase I was responding to. I don't care where they are now, they did sell for over $1000.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by dd316

Those aren't US releases. Yeah, semantics, but a US release is going to hold stronger than anything released in other territories.

It will be interesting when they do US releases of Chrome and Sapphire.

UK Sapphire Disney is selling around $1800-$1900 a box right now.

[LM14500]

Originally Posted by bub838

It will be interesting when they do US releases of Chrome and Sapphire.

UK Sapphire Disney is selling around $1800-$1900 a box right now.

Yep, they'll always be 3rd year Disney and 2nd year Marvel though. The X-Men release will be sick

[Tim]

Originally Posted by LM14500

lol, no they aren't. Nothing is going to trump Chrome or Sapphire, it doesn't matter which territory it was released. Genesis is a sack of #@#@#@#@ in comparison.

This post is spot on.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

2001 Topps Marvel Legends



Well and all those 2000 X-Men Movie cards but that’s not the same thing

Many buyers who ensured this was an instant sellout will have no memory of nor will they care that Topps Marvel cards ever existed before. Not only are they "old", but they're missing shiny shiny SHINY!!!

Look at the 1990 Impel set. That enjoyed a HUGE resurgence during the COVID bubble. Anybody talking about it now? The only reason anybody cared was collectors were hungry for ANYTHING that could fill the void of waiting for a new release. It really was a perfect storm. The time we're in now is all about the next thing.

And I agree with bub838 above - when they do mass Chrome and Sapphire releases, those will be the sought-after versions.

Wait til they put the "RC", "First Card", or whatever badge on new cards - you know it's coming regardless of whether they had cards before.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by LM14500

lol, no they aren't. Nothing is going to trump Chrome or Sapphire, it doesn't matter which territory it was released. Genesis is a sack of #@#@#@#@ in comparison.

Those generic sets with cut and paste reused artwork and signatures of ‘Spider-Man’ and ‘Hulk’? If something is a sack of %#%$& next to that, that’s pretty impressive.

[LM14500]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Those generic sets with cut and paste reused artwork and signatures of ‘Spider-Man’ and ‘Hulk’? If something is a sack of %#%$& next to that, that’s pretty impressive.

lol, if you think anything out of Genesis is going to hit $38k, I don't know what to tell you.

https://goldin.co/item/2024-topps-ch...JkSW5kZXgiOjF9

Apparently the Mickey Mouse Disney 100 Chrome Super sold for $500k aswell, i'm afraid those 'UK releases' are going to be untouchable.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by dd316

Many buyers who ensured this was an instant sellout will have no memory of nor will they care that Topps Marvel cards ever existed before. Not only are they "old", but they're missing shiny shiny SHINY!!!

Look at the 1990 Impel set. That enjoyed a HUGE resurgence during the COVID bubble. Anybody talking about it now? The only reason anybody cared was collectors were hungry for ANYTHING that could fill the void of waiting for a new release. It really was a perfect storm. The time we're in now is all about the next thing.

And I agree with bub838 above - when they do mass Chrome and Sapphire releases, those will be the sought-after versions.

Wait til they put the "RC", "First Card", or whatever badge on new cards - you know it's coming regardless of whether they had cards before.

Oh dont get me wrong, I totally agree…much of the new crowd isn’t interested in older sets…heck much of the crowd probably isn’t even marvel card collectors at all. Many of these new sets especially from Fanatics are being used as pawns to make money and flip. Ask yourself, are all the people desperate to get into the pre-order for this that eager to collect this set of because they are, say, Wolverine or Hulk collectors…..or is it because the presale box price will be significantly less than market and it’s just an opportunity for $?

It’s a shame the marvel card paradigm went from painted, art-centric sets to cards with RC and ‘Debut’ logos on them…the bread and butter of the speculators….if that’s really what we have in store for the future. May as well discuss these new Topps marvel sets up in one of the sports sections like Baseball.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by LM14500

lol, if you think anything out of Genesis is going to hit $38k, I don't know what to tell you.

https://goldin.co/item/2024-topps-ch...JkSW5kZXgiOjF9

Apparently the Mickey Mouse Disney 100 Chrome Super sold for $500k aswell, i'm afraid those 'UK releases' are going to be untouchable.

I would merely suggest that only looking at the tip top value cards isn't the entire picture.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by LM14500

lol, if you think anything out of Genesis is going to hit $38k, I don't know what to tell you.

https://goldin.co/item/2024-topps-ch...JkSW5kZXgiOjF9

Apparently the Mickey Mouse Disney 100 Chrome Super sold for $500k aswell, i'm afraid those 'UK releases' are going to be untouchable.

I don’t, and I’m not a fan of either release. I’m giving an objective critique of the Topps Chrome and Sapphire sets…not a fan. These are generic sets. Compare that for example to like 92 Marvel Masterpieces, a beautiful set done by the master himself, Joe Jusko. But the common-ness of the cards is what makes them cheap.

If sales like the above are even legit, that is a game being played where the Iron Man happens to be a pawn…..hobbyists and collectors are not dropping $38k for a card like that.

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by LM14500

lol, if you think anything out of Genesis is going to hit $38k, I don't know what to tell you.

https://goldin.co/item/2024-topps-ch...JkSW5kZXgiOjF9

Apparently the Mickey Mouse Disney 100 Chrome Super sold for $500k aswell, i'm afraid those 'UK releases' are going to be untouchable.

Genesis is basically "Topps Black"
Best way to comp these would be to compare the star wars supers to the Chrome Black 1/1 and the supers go for more $$.

The play for Genesis is to flip them for 2-3x (or more) to the Breaker bros, and buy a box of Chrome Marvel or Disney Chrome if you want to rip a better product.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by LM14500

lol, if you think anything out of Genesis is going to hit $38k, I don't know what to tell you.

https://goldin.co/item/2024-topps-ch...JkSW5kZXgiOjF9

Apparently the Mickey Mouse Disney 100 Chrome Super sold for $500k aswell, i'm afraid those 'UK releases' are going to be untouchable.

Eh, the Mickey 1/1 will at the very least. That has less to do with the set itself and more to do with people having too much money to blow.

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by bub838

That has less to do with the set itself and more to do with people having too much money to blow.

or too much to hide

[LM14500]

Originally Posted by bub838

Eh, the Mickey 1/1 will at the very least. That has less to do with the set itself and more to do with people having too much money to blow.

Bitcoin is a wonderful thing.

I still don't see the Genesis Mickey 1/1 hitting $38k though, we will see.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

or too much to hide

True story! hahaha

[Dmoneycards]

Topps is denying the fact the site ever crashed for the release. Their stance is that “this incredibly popular set sold out in minutes” and refuse to acknowledge what actually happened. What a joke

[Orangejello727]

I completed the Topps chrome and chrome sapphire marvel set. I think sapphire base singles are the most visually appealing. But some of the pictures they used suck. On the other hand they did an phenomenal job with Topps Chrome Disney. The pictures are great, vibrant and sharp. Im going to chase down a base and sapphire set once China breaks a bunch of it.

I cant afford Genesis wax. I think its ok. Nothing beats the Topps chrome disney photos tho. Forky is the best looking card hands down

[Orangejello727]

Are these actual cards or will be they oversized 5x7 or 8x10 prints? The box looks like oversize and not actual card size. If thats the case, im ok bypassing this set