First Buzz: 2024 Panini Select WNBA basketball cards

[RKH916]

Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

lol signed up just to post some clueless nonsense


Australian rugby? �� you obviously don’t understand what you’re speaking on. Just because you’re not into Caitlin Clark doesn’t equate to much.

You’re one of those guys who gets steaming mad about anything having to do w/women lol shxts hilarious

1) I signed up to talk sports cards.

2) I'm talking sports cards.

3) I'm not even remotely mad.

4) If you've pumped money in to WNBA products, especially high end singles, you're going to be bitterly disappointed in 5 years time.

The comparison between sporting leagues/codes were between developed nations with similar rates of female sporting participation and interest. I'm making a market observation that has precedent; if you believe that inorganic marketing and "drama" can sustain this level of interest - exceptionally high above the mean - then by all means continue to believe it.

Reality is that 12 months ago 90% of social commentary related to the WNBA was jokes about making sandwiches, etc. Now, most of it is about racial division between two rookie prospects and a drama-hype train built around it. You are more than free to continue to play along, but most people will die off similar to almost all other inorganic movements in history.

This is not a "females are bad" argument, you can take off your shining armour.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by RKH916

1) I signed up to talk sports cards.

2) I'm talking sports cards.

3) I'm not even remotely mad.

4) If you've pumped money in to WNBA products, especially high end singles, you're going to be bitterly disappointed in 5 years time.

The comparison between sporting leagues/codes were between developed nations with similar rates of female sporting participation and interest. I'm making a market observation that has precedent; if you believe that inorganic marketing and "drama" can sustain this level of interest, exceptionally high above the mean, then by all means continue to believe it. 12 months ago 99% of social commentary related to the WNBA was jokes about making sandwiches, etc. Now, most of it is about racial division between two prospects and a hype train built around it. You are more than free to continue to play along.

This is not a "females are bad" argument, you can take off your shining armour.

In terms of the current sports card market, do you have any clue what you're talking about? I'd estimate less than 0.1% of people buying these cards care what the price is in 5 years. There is a better chance someone holds on to a card or a box for only 5 days than 5 years.

[RKH916]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

In terms of the current sports card market, do you have any clue what you're talking about? I'd estimate less than 0.1% of people buying these cards care what the price is in 5 years. There is a better chance someone holds on to a card or a box for only 5 days than 5 years.

I'm not talking about flipping to take advantage of the stupidity. I'm talking about the stupidity.

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by jojoak

$1,000 per box? That can't be right, can it?

$750 when it hits.

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Does each box come with a voucher to trip Angel Reese from the sidelines?

Geez what did OldMoldy do he has been gone awhile now.

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

Geez what did OldMoldy do he has been gone awhile now.

Wouldn't be surprised if he resurrected as RKH916 in the meantime lol he loves racial division and seems like the type who would buy a gutted MJ collection for over-value.

Australian rules football is hilarious though, what's the NCAA for that where Clark really became a superstar?

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

It blows my mind that the "value" created by having the licensing rights to print pictures of women onto cardboard and putting a WNBA/Team logo on it has changed such that 5 years ago said value was say $80/box to now being nearly $800 a box. Just to print photographs of women onto cardboard. $800. Doesn't compute.

Cmon, lol. You’re far better than this.

I’m not as wnba fan, but it’s not hard to connect the dots here. Look at attendance - way up. Whether you compare this year to 2019, 2023, whatever.

Caitlin Clark’s 1st chrome bowman U base sells for $30.

[RKH916]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

Wouldn't be surprised if he resurrected as RKH916 in the meantime lol he loves racial division

If you were actually reading what I was posting you'd see that I can't stand it.

and seems like the type who would buy a gutted MJ collection for over-value.

I'm open to honest conversation hence posting the thread. Please post in there and give me your take on it/what your value for it would be.

[ohio_mba]

wen Prizm?

[Bob Ross]

Looks like they pulled FOTL Select

[MTBRM]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Looks like they pulled FOTL Select

Maybe to shift focus to Origins? Looks like that has a timer now.

[kakarot12]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Looks like they pulled FOTL Select

I noticed that as well. Also, oddly enough most sites put hobby select back up to $9000 a case. I know that’s where it started but I wanna say in the last week or so cases dropped a bit to around $8600ish

[codered]

Originally Posted by RKH916

1) I signed up to talk sports cards.

2) I'm talking sports cards.

3) I'm not even remotely mad.

4) If you've pumped money in to WNBA products, especially high end singles, you're going to be bitterly disappointed in 5 years time.

The comparison between sporting leagues/codes were between developed nations with similar rates of female sporting participation and interest. I'm making a market observation that has precedent; if you believe that inorganic marketing and "drama" can sustain this level of interest - exceptionally high above the mean - then by all means continue to believe it.

Reality is that 12 months ago 90% of social commentary related to the WNBA was jokes about making sandwiches, etc. Now, most of it is about racial division between two rookie prospects and a drama-hype train built around it. You are more than free to continue to play along, but most people will die off similar to almost all other inorganic movements in history.

This is not a "females are bad" argument, you can take off your shining armour.

Did you recently wake up from coma that started in 1997. The WNBA rise to the public eye and in the hobby has been slowly building momentum for the last few years. Just a few years ago people were chasing Ionescu rookies pretty rabidly. She also has one of the most popular signature shoes Nike has to offer. A good amount of NBA players were rocking her line last year and the hype build up for her second shoe was really huge. I mean I was chasing a Candace Parker auto in 2008 press pass of all things. Again this has been slowly building. Luckily I hit one and those particular autos are worth more today than they were 16 years ago. Pretty good chance anyone invested into WNBA won’t be anymore disappointed in their investments than they are in their NBA or other sports cards. It’s all about how you invest in. It’s not a passing fade

[kakarot12]

FOTL price is up….starting at $3,000 and drops to $750….ouch

[MTBRM]

Originally Posted by kakarot12

FOTL price is up….starting at $3,000 and drops to $750….ouch

Ouch, indeed. Even at $750 99.9% are gonna get smoked ripping this.

[DarcyWinston]

I remember buying a box of prizm whenever Ionesco was a rookie, very similar to now with Caitlin and maybe Angel or bust. The demand outside of maybe 5-6 players is non existent. I still have them listed with zero interest. Seems smarter just to buy the Caitlins or Angels off EBay, not as fun but you won’t likely pull them paying $750 a box. ��

[ricebellypanda]

Originally Posted by kakarot12

FOTL price is up….starting at $3,000 and drops to $750….ouch

Absolutely awful...

[ZappBrannigan]

Who collects ladies basketball cards. Lol.

[MTBRM]

Originally Posted by ZappBrannigan

Who collects ladies basketball cards. Lol.

Found the incel. Here’s the attention you were seeking.

[Bob Ross]

Does that say $750 floor?

[wxguy44]

those prices are MAD

[mc1]

Originally Posted by ZappBrannigan

Who collects ladies basketball cards. Lol.

Collect? More like invest or gamble.

[jmsc]

Panini D/A question.

Q1: when price drops every 5 mins by what amount is it dropping?

Q2: is it the same throughout the auction?

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by jmsc

Panini D/A question.

Q1: when price drops every 5 mins by what amount is it dropping?

Q2: is it the same throughout the auction?

varies by product. but you can calculate it by dividing the start price and floor and dividing the total time by how many 5 minute increments there are.

I haven't watched one of these in a long time but I think the time is usually 2 or 3 hours? So, if the total auction time is 2 hours you have 24 drops. 3 hours is 36 drops. The start price is $3000, floor is $750.

$2250 / 24 = $93.75 per drop
$2250 / 36 = $62.5 per drop

Otherwise you'll find out 5 minutes after it starts

[WallyatJCCards]

Originally Posted by ZappBrannigan

Who collects ladies basketball cards. Lol.

I've had more and more people coming in the shop specifically to buy WNBA cards. I think it's more of the old school Basketball Purists who like passing, defense, mid range jumpers, etc...