Justin Fields Thread

[Phil Ligget]

dude sucks. always has.

bears suck. always will.

end of thread as the cool kids say!

[djdevon]

BUSTIN FIELDS!

[Scottish Punk]

The worst thing for the Bears is for Fields to just show flashes and nothing else. I would play him all season and see what you get. As a Bears fan, I would want either a marked improvement that tells me that he will be our guy or be really bad and cut bait easily. In other words, you want an easier decision. The trouble for any franchise is when your QB is in the middle ground and you give him a big contract. Too expensive to dump and just good enough to keep your draft pick too low.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by Grid

If they hit the panic button right now, they admit their mistake. They had all of camp and preseason to see what Fields can do. They all signed off on him being the starter. If they bench him now, they would all look like fools.

The heat would be higher, if not for so many starting QBs looking bad the past 2 weeks.

Fields has about the same passing yards as Russ Wilson, Tannehill, Geno Smith and Trevor Lawrence. And he has MORE passing yards, than Purdy, Daniel Jones, Prescott, Hurts, Jimmy G, Carr, Love and Burrow.

He isn't doing horribly, and his mistakes seem to be him doing too much when playing from behind. He just isnt showing any progression. And the is whats causing concern.

I think this needs context. And I'll use Purdy because he's my guy.

YES. Fields had more yards than Purdy, less than 10 more yards, but yes.

Fields threw two picks, Purdy had none. Difference in both games.

If I want Fields to succeed, and I think he can, I'd design an offense around him. O-Line, Fullback, TE. Hire Greg Roman. I see a guy in Fields that with a designed QB run/option game and a bully run game could have a one-read passing game and probably have big areas of the field wide open. But they need to draw all the defenders up.

He's not accurate and doesn't appear to process reads super fast... but with his size and athleticism - especially in the late in the year, with cold, snow, if you could get a home playoff game - he could be deadly.

But if you want him to be a prototypical pocket passer... you might as well jump ship right now.

my 2 cents.

[Leggo]

Coming from a Bears fan....

He sucks, he always sucked, and forever he will suck. His progressions are awful and all his sacks are mostly caused by himself holding onto the ball because he is processing at the speed of a f---ing AOL landmine. His best ability is to get out on the edges or make a busted play work with his legs which will only get you so far. He is not Lamar. He is not Jalen Hurts.

Took 0 accountability on the pick 6 and blamed the play call. In Chicago we LOVE to blame the front office and the coaches, but right here I think we just picked a dud...

I really really really hope I am wrong and one day I can look back at this post and be like wow I was an idiot for not believing. His time is ticking though.

Okay, my rant is over. Bears need to tank again.

Bear down.

[majestik101]

Don't know much about Fields, and can't speak on his future as a starting QB in the NFL, but I sure as hell laughed my ass off yesterday when he threw a pick 6 from his own 5-yard line.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

The worst thing for the Bears is for Fields to just show flashes and nothing else. I would play him all season and see what you get. As a Bears fan, I would want either a marked improvement that tells me that he will be our guy or be really bad and cut bait easily. In other words, you want an easier decision. The trouble for any franchise is when your QB is in the middle ground and you give him a big contract. Too expensive to dump and just good enough to keep your draft pick too low.

Exactly. He has had some great games. And he has had some really bad games. He played well enough last year, to earn a couple of league MVP votes, and be on the list of the top 100 players in the league. And then "thud" so far this season.

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I think this needs context. And I'll use Purdy because he's my guy.

YES. Fields had more yards than Purdy, less than 10 more yards, but yes.

Fields threw two picks, Purdy had none. Difference in both games.

If I want Fields to succeed, and I think he can, I'd design an offense around him. O-Line, Fullback, TE. Hire Greg Roman. I see a guy in Fields that with a designed QB run/option game and a bully run game could have a one-read passing game and probably have big areas of the field wide open. But they need to draw all the defenders up.

He's not accurate and doesn't appear to process reads super fast... but with his size and athleticism - especially in the late in the year, with cold, snow, if you could get a home playoff game - he could be deadly.

But if you want him to be a prototypical pocket passer... you might as well jump ship right now.

my 2 cents.

I posted within context. My post was in regards to highly rated players, not putting up very good numbers through the 1st 2 weeks. It wasnt a knock on Purdy, but Fields (who some in here are calling to bench right now) did pass for more yards than everyone I listed. And I listed everyone, to show most are not starting off the season very well.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by Leggo

Coming from a Bears fan....

He sucks, he always sucked, and forever he will suck. His progressions are awful and all his sacks are mostly caused by himself holding onto the ball because he is processing at the speed of a f---ing AOL landmine. His best ability is to get out on the edges or make a busted play work with his legs which will only get you so far. He is not Lamar. He is not Jalen Hurts.

Took 0 accountability on the pick 6 and blamed the play call. In Chicago we LOVE to blame the front office and the coaches, but right here I think we just picked a dud...

I really really really hope I am wrong and one day I can look back at this post and be like wow I was an idiot for not believing. His time is ticking though.

Okay, my rant is over. Bears need to tank again.

Bear down.

Blame for everyone. There always is. This is not a small market team. The bright lights of Chicago Media can burn holes through some people. Either you take it like a man, like Mike Ditka. And bark back and tell people they dont know what they are talking about. Or you pull a Matt Nagy and be a talking head, and just say "We got some things to clean up".

Fields is in the hot seat, and with a media as loud as this (like New York as well) it can be brutal.

I think the team, stupidly, is listening to the media. If the coaches think what they are doing is right, they pull a Ditka and tell them to shut up and let them work.

Instead, we get team posts like this. After they all came under fire for their week one effort, where Fields attempted a pass past the 15 yard line just a couple times

Justin Fields planning on throwing more deep passes | Press Conference

https://www.chicagobears.com/video/j...ess-conference

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by Grid

I posted within context. My post was in regards to highly rated players, not putting up very good numbers through the 1st 2 weeks. It wasnt a knock on Purdy, but Fields (who some in here are calling to bench right now) did pass for more yards than everyone I listed. And I listed everyone, to show most are not starting off the season very well.

It needed context. And I didn't take it as a knock on Purdy. I was making the point that Purdy was average at best yesterday - but there's more to that story.

Fields is playing horribly.

At one point I looked at Fields stats and he was 9-19 completions/attempts.

It may have ended as a better looking stat line, but that's an issue, that's where you start to fall behind and have to dig yourself out as a QB.

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by Grid

Blame for everyone. There always is. This is not a small market team. The bright lights of Chicago Media can burn holes through some people. Either you take it like a man, like Mike Ditka. And bark back and tell people they dont know what they are talking about. Or you pull a Matt Nagy and be a talking head, and just say "We got some things to clean up".

Fields is in the hot seat, and with a media as loud as this (like New York as well) it can be brutal.

I think the team, stupidly, is listening to the media. If the coaches think what they are doing is right, they pull a Ditka and tell them to shut up and let them work.

Instead, we get team posts like this. After they all came under fire for their week one effort, where Fields attempted a pass past the 15 yard line just a couple times

Justin Fields planning on throwing more deep passes | Press Conference

https://www.chicagobears.com/video/j...ess-conference

I have read all your comments and I'll say it again he should not be a starting QB in the NFL. If the Bears want to tank the season they have the guy starting just to do that. At least he is good for something. We understand it's everyones fault but his. Actually I hope they keep him as the starter for years that way that is one less team that anyone has to worry about.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

It needed context. And I didn't take it as a knock on Purdy. I was making the point that Purdy was average at best yesterday - but there's more to that story.

Fields is playing horribly.

At one point I looked at Fields stats and he was 9-19 completions/attempts.

It may have ended as a better looking stat line, but that's an issue, that's where you start to fall behind and have to dig yourself out as a QB.

Again, you literally quoted me saying "The heat would be higher, if not for so many starting QBs looking bad the past 2 weeks"

My posting of who else, right now, has the same passing yards isnt to show Fields being Elite. But to show many better QBs also struggling to start the season.

Who looks great right now? Ridder? Fields is clumped in the middle right now. And a lot more impressive QBs then him, seem to be struggling as well.

Certainly not to the point of benching 2 games in.

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by Grid

Again, you literally quoted me saying "The heat would be higher, if not for so many starting QBs looking bad the past 2 weeks"

My posting of who else, right now, has the same passing yards isnt to show Fields being Elite. But to show many better QBs also struggling to start the season.

Who looks great right now? Ridder? Fields is clumped in the middle right now. And a lot more impressive QBs then him, seem to be struggling as well.

Certainly not to the point of benching 2 games in.

Actually should have already been benched.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

I have read all your comments and I'll say it again he should not be a starting QB in the NFL. If the Bears want to tank the season they have the guy starting just to do that. At least he is good for something. We understand it's everyones fault but his. Actually I hope they keep him as the starter for years that way that is one less team that anyone has to worry about.

How about this, if you are right and he should not be a starting QB, and he should be benched right now after 2 games. You would win the argument. But only if the Bears agree with your certainly astute assessment of their talent.

So if the Bears bench him before the game on Sunday, and finish the season with either their Qb2 or QB3. You win!

Or, if he starts yet again, and continues to start at least a few more games after this next one. Then I am right, and you are just flapping your gums as an "expert".

Fair deal, right?

[kyle1707]

Let him run. Last week he stood in pocket

Just a complete joke. Is he a good pocket passer ? Nope

But he can run like Lamar Jackson

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by Grid

Again, you literally quoted me saying "The heat would be higher, if not for so many starting QBs looking bad the past 2 weeks"

My posting of who else, right now, has the same passing yards isnt to show Fields being Elite. But to show many better QBs also struggling to start the season.

Who looks great right now? Ridder? Fields is clumped in the middle right now. And a lot more impressive QBs then him, seem to be struggling as well.

Certainly not to the point of benching 2 games in.

I'm not calling for his benching. I see an athletic guy being forced to run an offense not suited to his strengths. I think he can be a winner.

But not running this offense.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

Actually should have already been benched.

After the 1st game of the season? You must really know your stuff!

[Leggo]

Originally Posted by Grid

Blame for everyone. There always is. This is not a small market team. The bright lights of Chicago Media can burn holes through some people. Either you take it like a man, like Mike Ditka. And bark back and tell people they dont know what they are talking about. Or you pull a Matt Nagy and be a talking head, and just say "We got some things to clean up".

Fields is in the hot seat, and with a media as loud as this (like New York as well) it can be brutal.

I think the team, stupidly, is listening to the media. If the coaches think what they are doing is right, they pull a Ditka and tell them to shut up and let them work.

Instead, we get team posts like this. After they all came under fire for their week one effort, where Fields attempted a pass past the 15 yard line just a couple times

Justin Fields planning on throwing more deep passes | Press Conference

https://www.chicagobears.com/video/j...ess-conference

I by no means am wishing they listen to me or the media. I totally agree with how the coaching staff and front office needs to tell people like me off but at the same time, its scary when they do acknowledge it because they see the glaring problem as well. His highs last year have always been when he uses his legs, again it can work if the gameplan is done accordingly but sustainability and when he NEEDS to go through his progressions when the run aint working is what does him in.

Again, I hope I am wrong and I get a told you so from the Fields Truthers.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by Leggo

I by no means am wishing they listen to me or the media. I totally agree with how the coaching staff and front office needs to tell people like me off but at the same time, its scary when they do acknowledge it because they see the glaring problem as well. His highs last year have always been when he uses his legs, again it can work if the gameplan is done accordingly but sustainability and when he NEEDS to go through his progressions when the run aint working is what does him in.

Again, I hope I am wrong and I get a told you so from the Fields Truthers.

I hear ya! And its hard to disagree with what you are saying.

To be clear, I am in no way white knighting for Justin Fields. As a fan of the team, I'd like him to do well so it isn't another 3 year dump and rebuild.

The man has talent. But if his game doesn't work in the NFL, then it doesn't work. No shame going out like Tebow! Enter the league as a great collegiate QB, and exit the league a multimillionaire.

I am just saying the idea of benching him now, 2 weeks into the season, is utterly preposterous!

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by Grid

After the 1st game of the season? You must really know your stuff!

No when he started 5-20

[jplarson]

JT O'Sullivan did a break down Week 1 and Week 2 of Fields. Interesting stuff! He's also not a big fan of Kmet and Claypoole's blocking and the tape bears it out.

Some F bombs are in it but it's not gratuitous.

[jplarson]

Claypoole also apparently really sucks lol

[christhecpa]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

No when he started 5-20

Now do Trevor Lawrence.
Or do you prefer his "style" of QB play?

[longbomberz]

Pretty funny this is the week his Contenders finally ship

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by christhecpa

Now do Trevor Lawrence.
Or do you prefer his "style" of QB play?

I do. His style is much better to watch.

[oldgoldy97]

He’s no Tebow.