Justin Fields Thread

Metsfan1991 · 08-04-2022, 06:05 AM

Very optimistic about Justin’s future with a new coach and offensive cordinator. Last year the coaching utilized his biggest strength in running the RPO 2% of the time! How absolutely insane!

Card wise it seems some of his stuff is overpriced, some under, but I personally think Justin has more upside then anyone in the class.

Anyone in here collect fields or have any predictions on his growth? It’s only training camp so far but he has been described as ‘dazzling’.

Thanks all!

Dave

starfox · 08-04-2022, 07:45 AM

Fields is good, but his team is not. Years of having so few draft picks is still hindering this team. It's still early, but Fields should prove his worth well before it's time to exercise or decline the team's fifth year option.

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Grid · 08-04-2022, 08:01 AM

That was Nagy beuing Nagy. Mitch has put him on blast plenty for forcing his QBs to play his game. Instead of designing a game plan to fit the strengths of his QBs.

It seems the new regime is going to cater to what Justin does best.

I wouldn't say I am sold on him, but he does have talent.

jplarson · 08-04-2022, 08:31 AM

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That was Nagy beuing Nagy. Mitch has put him on blast plenty for forcing his QBs to play his game. Instead of designing a game plan to fit the strengths of his QBs.

Really is a shame Nagy couldn't get out of his own way.

As a Bears fan I'm hoping he does great for us. As a collector I've picked up low end inserts and base cards for the hobby enjoyment but certainly no major money.

Grid · 08-04-2022, 10:41 AM

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Really is a shame Nagy couldn't get out of his own way.

Yup. I know Ryan Pace got blown up as the GM. But the moves he made to build the team were mostly solid. His biggest mistake, was handing the team over to Nagy. Who just refused to do anything except push his own agenda.

Pace got Mitch, who I still think is talented. Before Nagy went Nagy, Mitch made the Pro Bowl by playing his game as a rookie. Nagy ruined that.

Pace knew Aikeem Hicks from back when he was with the Saints. Adding Hicks was a great move.

Pace drafted Roquan, and got us Mack. Picked Eddie Jackson and Cohen in the 4th round, which was a great value. And he brought in Allen Robinson and Robert Quinn.

If Pace would have just promoted Fangio to HC, let him turn over the reigns for offense to someone not named Nagy. And let Pace continue adding talent. It would have been a completely different team.

Soxrule111 · 08-04-2022, 10:53 AM

I hope Im wrong, but I think Fields is trash. Will be traded after the season and the Bears Draft a New QB Top 3

exospheer · 08-04-2022, 11:07 AM

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Yup. I know Ryan Pace got blown up as the GM. But the moves he made to build the team were mostly solid. His biggest mistake, was handing the team over to Nagy. Who just refused to do anything except push his own agenda.

Pace got Mitch, who I still think is talented. Before Nagy went Nagy, Mitch made the Pro Bowl by playing his game as a rookie. Nagy ruined that.

Pace knew Aikeem Hicks from back when he was with the Saints. Adding Hicks was a great move.

Pace drafted Roquan, and got us Mack. Picked Eddie Jackson and Cohen in the 4th round, which was a great value. And he brought in Allen Robinson and Robert Quinn.

If Pace would have just promoted Fangio to HC, let him turn over the reigns for offense to someone not named Nagy. And let Pace continue adding talent. It would have been a completely different team.

Disagree with Pace. He overvalued some players and overpaid in terms of draft capital to get them. Overall his 1st and 2nd round picks were awful.

Fields is going to be great IMO. Has the right mentality and all the talent needed to succeed. People with his amount of talent and work ethnic usually excel unless something freaky happens.

Soxrule111 · 08-04-2022, 11:14 AM

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Disagree with Pace. He overvalued some players and overpaid in terms of draft capital to get them. Overall his 1st and 2nd round picks were awful.

Fields is going to be great IMO. Has the right mentality and all the talent needed to succeed. People with his amount of talent and work ethnic usually excel unless something freaky happens.

Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.

jplarson · 08-04-2022, 11:16 AM

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I think Fields is trash.

I don't know many QBs who would have succeeded in that offense with that playcalling and personnel last year.

Grid · 08-04-2022, 11:19 AM

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Disagree with Pace. He overvalued some players and overpaid in terms of draft capital to get them. Overall his 1st and 2nd round picks were awful.

Fields is going to be great IMO. Has the right mentality and all the talent needed to succeed. People with his amount of talent and work ethnic usually excel unless something freaky happens.

I totally get people being so down on Pace. But he was building a team to win now. And that is what happens. You pay the stars, and you trade picks for players that can help you win now.

Once he moved on from John Fox, the team was 12-4 and lost a heart breaker in the playoffs. Everything was set, except for Nagy tanking the team.

Once that happened, and Mitch regressed, everything Pace did became a negative because the money was then wasted.

jplarson · 08-04-2022, 11:36 AM

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Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.

Have you watched any Bears games start to finish that Fields played that didn't involve Nagy?

I'm not ready to toss the dude in the trash heap. Maybe he does turn out, maybe he doesn't. Let's see what a different manager does for his productivity.

Grid · 08-04-2022, 11:47 AM

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Have you watched any Bears games start to finish that Fields played that didn't involve Nagy?

I'm not ready to toss the dude in the trash heap. Maybe he does turn out, maybe he doesn't. Let's see what a different manager does for his productivity.

Thats exactly where I am on this. Nagy ran the 2017 Chiefs offense, when he got there in 2018. He let Mitch be Mitch, and Mitch went to the Pro Bowl and had his best year in the league.

Nagy went full Nagy in 2019, and Mitch's numbers nosedived, as Nagy made him a drop back and read QB. Even though he played in more games, his rushing yards and rushing TD's were cut in half. And he no longer extended plays with his legs.

I wont judge Fields with just a year under Nagy to go on. Nagy didnt want Fields, Pace did. And Pace forced Nagy to play him for the most part. Its like Nagy wanted to destroy the team out of spite.

Metsfan1991 · 08-04-2022, 12:07 PM

Pump it up!

Zach Wilson is apparently being outperformed by Joe Flacco while fields is “dazzling”.

majestik101 · 08-04-2022, 01:02 PM

If he was on any other team, I'd probably be more optimistic about his future. Chicago is Quarterback Purgatory

Grid · 08-04-2022, 02:02 PM

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If he was on any other team, I'd probably be more optimistic about his future. Chicago is Quarterback Purgatory

Siberian13 · 08-04-2022, 03:39 PM

Hope he does well so azzjublees can finally celebrate a Buckeye QB in the pros

jplarson · 08-04-2022, 03:55 PM

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Hope he does well so azzjublees can finally celebrate a Buckeye QB in the pros

But that would leave Cleveland as the sole proprietor of the hit nightclub Quarterback Purgatory.

Truly a rock and a hard place conundrum for him :/

Siberian13 · 08-04-2022, 04:05 PM

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But that would leave Cleveland as the sole proprietor of the hit nightclub Quarterback Purgatory.

Truly a rock and a hard place conundrum for him :/

Deshaun will be starting soon to help ease his Brownie QB pain. Could be a good next few years for him.

exospheer · 08-04-2022, 04:47 PM

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Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.

Yes...

Hard work, the ability to not be gun shy and leadership. Not sure what mentality you are looking for in a QB, but he has shown glimpses of all of those things. He needs to work on slowing the game down and football work, but I think he can overcome it. As others have said, the thing holding him back is the Bears.

jmcca170 · 08-04-2022, 10:38 PM

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Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.

Go watch the Steelers game again

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Metsfan1991 · 08-08-2022, 04:33 PM

To the moon!!!!!

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Metsfan1991 · 08-08-2022, 04:33 PM

To the moon again!!!!!!!

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asujbl · 08-08-2022, 04:40 PM

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Hope he does well so azzjublees can finally celebrate a Buckeye QB in the pros

Wait until Stroud goes #1

thenwhatjk · 08-08-2022, 04:45 PM

Be cool if he signed his contenders

Siberian13 · 08-08-2022, 04:49 PM

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Be cool if he signed his contenders

I wouldn’t even risk a redemption from Panini at this point. Even if he’s your PC guy.

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08-04-2022, 06:05 AM	#1
Metsfan1991 Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,459	Justin Fields Thread Very optimistic about Justin’s future with a new coach and offensive cordinator. Last year the coaching utilized his biggest strength in running the RPO 2% of the time! How absolutely insane! Card wise it seems some of his stuff is overpriced, some under, but I personally think Justin has more upside then anyone in the class. Anyone in here collect fields or have any predictions on his growth? It’s only training camp so far but he has been described as ‘dazzling’. Thanks all! Dave

08-04-2022, 07:45 AM	#2
starfox Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 4,532 I don't have one at the moment, but plan to. I don't have one of these either, but we shall see.	Fields is good, but his team is not. Years of having so few draft picks is still hindering this team. It's still early, but Fields should prove his worth well before it's time to exercise or decline the team's fifth year option. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

08-04-2022, 08:01 AM	#3
Grid Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 13,046 Gridiron-Gladiators	That was Nagy beuing Nagy. Mitch has put him on blast plenty for forcing his QBs to play his game. Instead of designing a game plan to fit the strengths of his QBs. It seems the new regime is going to cater to what Justin does best. I wouldn't say I am sold on him, but he does have talent.

08-04-2022, 12:07 PM	#13
Metsfan1991 Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,459	Pump it up! Zach Wilson is apparently being outperformed by Joe Flacco while fields is “dazzling”.

08-08-2022, 04:33 PM	#21
Metsfan1991 Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,459	To the moon!!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk