PSA question about what tier to use

[BraveAtlanta]

I have a semi rare Acuna auto that I’m looking to get graded. A raw copy runs around $300-$325 and mine appears to be a gem after getting my loupe out. Is there any truth that more expensive tiers = a better chance at receiving a 10? I can’t decide if I should include this card in a value bulk submission at $19 a card ($499 max value) or if I should go ahead and pay for a separate Regular submission at $75 a card ($1499 max value). A 10 would push it over $499 of course, so I could give them the chance to upcharge.

What do you guys usually do in cases like this?

[rfgilles]

Submit to a TCG that doesn't do upcharges.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

Submit to a TCG that doesn't do upcharges.

Like SGC or BGS

[Dobber2330]

Send it in the value submission - if it grades better and they determine that it is worth more then they will upcharge you to the right level.

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

Submit to a TCG that doesn't do upcharges.

Send it to one that actually adds to the value not to one that people will only buy to crack out and send to a real one

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by jplarson

Like SGC or BGS

Both GREAT options for accuracy, precision and cost.

[discodanman45]

Go value bulk for any raw card under $500. If it gems they will most likely not even upcharge you. You don't pay PSA for what if 10's. Just pay them for the 9 value.

No truth of higher tiers give better grades. I have gotten 10's for low pop cards from the 80/90's in bulk orders from PSA. Most of those were returned without an upcharge. Even a few that were 5 to 10xs the declared value.

[BraveAtlanta]

Thanks for the responses everyone. I’ll include it in my bulk order.

[larry25]

Always submit at the cheapest tier possible. Just don't submit with a bunch of other high-grade Gem or better cards that will overshadow it. Make it stand out by submitting some marginally inferior cards around it. Good luck!

[BigRedMachine80]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Send it to one that actually adds to the value not to one that people will only buy to crack out and send to a real one

Luckily you can post an HGA, SGC, BGS, and CSG slab at the same price point PSA and it'll sell, despite the narrative on here.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by BigRedMachine80

Luckily you can post an HGA, SGC, BGS, and CSG slab at the same price point PSA and it'll sell, despite the narrative on here.

For what type of card??? For anything 90's to vintage this is absolutely not true. My doubles of CSG/SGC cards don't sell at PSA prices for the same grade and the PSA slabs I sell are gone very quickly. I also have been buying CSG slabs in this era way below PSA comps, replacing my PSA cards with better CSG cards and extra money in my pocket.

Some CSG cards will sell for a decent price, but you need to be patient, sometimes weeks or months. Also having top pop's is useful as well. I don't use PSA to grade at all anymore since I never returned after they kept my cards for 15 months. However, if I want to sell my PSA slabs, they will fetch a premium and sell quicker. I can give data on this from about 4/6 months ago when I sold a bunch of PSA/SGC/CSG slabs. Sometimes the same exact card in the same exact grade.

[Wild West]

Originally Posted by BigRedMachine80

Luckily you can post an HGA, SGC, BGS, and CSG slab at the same price point PSA and it'll sell, despite the narrative on here.

Would love to see examples..because every card I look up in psa 10 compared to anything else 10 is no where near the PSA. It’s not a narrative it’s a fact.

[f2tornado]

I send stuff at the value tier unless it's captain obvious or a 9 is worth above the tier. Never had an upcharge. Note that if you really think your card is well above the tier DV then it is best to send at the higher level else you will only be covered at the lower DV should PSA damage the card or something happens in transit back to you.

[rfgilles]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

For what type of card??? For anything 90's to vintage this is absolutely not true. My doubles of CSG/SGC cards don't sell at PSA prices for the same grade and the PSA slabs I sell are gone very quickly. I also have been buying CSG slabs in this era way below PSA comps, replacing my PSA cards with better CSG cards and extra money in my pocket.

Some CSG cards will sell for a decent price, but you need to be patient, sometimes weeks or months. Also having top pop's is useful as well. I don't use PSA to grade at all anymore since I never returned after they kept my cards for 15 months. However, if I want to sell my PSA slabs, they will fetch a premium and sell quicker. I can give data on this from about 4/6 months ago when I sold a bunch of PSA/SGC/CSG slabs. Sometimes the same exact card in the same exact grade.

Best approach. Slabs are fungible

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by BigRedMachine80

Luckily you can post an HGA, SGC, BGS, and CSG slab at the same price point PSA and it'll sell, despite the narrative on here.

The same garbage companies like HGA, TAG, WTFABC that most of the listings people put PSA 10? in the titles as spam?

[atk825]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Send it to one that actually adds to the value not to one that people will only buy to crack out and send to a real one

It adds to the value except the grading company keeps the overwhelming majority of that value.

[BigRedMachine80]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

For what type of card??? For anything 90's to vintage this is absolutely not true. My doubles of CSG/SGC cards don't sell at PSA prices for the same grade and the PSA slabs I sell are gone very quickly. I also have been buying CSG slabs in this era way below PSA comps, replacing my PSA cards with better CSG cards and extra money in my pocket.

Some CSG cards will sell for a decent price, but you need to be patient, sometimes weeks or months. Also having top pop's is useful as well. I don't use PSA to grade at all anymore since I never returned after they kept my cards for 15 months. However, if I want to sell my PSA slabs, they will fetch a premium and sell quicker. I can give data on this from about 4/6 months ago when I sold a bunch of PSA/SGC/CSG slabs. Sometimes the same exact card in the same exact grade.

all i've sold is ultra modern and this has been my experience. This past spring training I unloaded 6 HGA slabs for more than their PSA 10 counterparts (Players were Sandy Alcantara, Albies, Corbin Carroll), all but 1 of my BGS slabs were also moved this past spring training for the same or more than their PSA counterparts (Ryan McMahon, Hunter Greene, Albies,) . Haven't listed any CSG slabs since all I have is PC in them.

The issue is owners of these other slabs either list an auction or list the BIN below the counterpart. I'm not saying they fly off the shelf, but if you are patient, they will move at PSA prices.

[redgem]

I've submitted many ultra-modern cards to PSA over the last year. I always select the lowest value tier and just put $199 in as the declared value. I haven't been upcharged at all even though one sub got 36/50 gems and some of the cards were worth close to $500. Cranking out a million slabs per month, they just don't have the manpower to price check every single submission. It's probably like TSA at the airport, they pull out 10% or less of them and check them.

[larry25]

Originally Posted by redgem

I've submitted many ultra-modern cards to PSA over the last year. I always select the lowest value tier and just put $199 in as the declared value. I haven't been upcharged at all even though one sub got 36/50 gems and some of the cards were worth close to $500. Cranking out a million slabs per month, they just don't have the manpower to price check every single submission. It's probably like TSA at the airport, they pull out 10% or less of them and check them.

This. Thank you!

[Onepocketj]

Had a bulk <$499 sub last month that had four cards in it gem and sell for $1,000-$2,000. None of them got upcharged.