Goat debate Lebron vs Jordan... - Page 12

BGT Masters · 02-14-2023, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

Tom Brady might've been 7-3 in the Super Bowl but Joe Montana never lost a Super Bowl (4-0).

Joe Cool is the FB GOAT, no?

Football is a bit different than basketball. Rely on far more teammates to get the job done in the three main aspects of the game. I'm not 100% sold Brady is the NFL GOAT but I wouldn't argue it much either. Of course it might be a more fair comparison if Montana had more SB victories and never lost. I would rather be 7-3 than 4-0 because it means you achieved the ultimate team goal more times and that's winning it all.

Just like a Bills fan I'd rather them be 1-0 in the Super Bowl than 0-4.

eastbayak · 02-14-2023, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Does lebron have more rings that MJ? Has lebron won more than he has lost?

Apples and oranges

It's easy to win rings when you're on a stacked team (for many years) playing against "menacing" opponents like Drexler/Terry Porter and Barkley/Kevin Johnson.

I can't believe you're so proud of such accomplishments lol.

rhigh2390 · 02-14-2023, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

It's easy to win rings when you're on a stacked team (for many years) playing against "menacing" opponents like Drexler/Terry Porter and Barkley/Kevin Johnson.

I can't believe you're so proud of such accomplishments lol.

Much more to be proud of losing to Dirk aaand....

Nice win too against the Heat in 2020.... That Heat team was loaded.

Remind everyone again what Pippen did in his career without MJ. I think one of lebron's teammates has a Finals MVP, if I'm not mistaken.

MJ23Collector · 02-14-2023, 03:56 PM

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/artic...16751_38463058

Brand new information or just rehashed old news? Hard to take seriously when you have an non-athlete in second position of a greatest athlete of all times poll

hermanotarjeta · 02-14-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATcards

didn't browser-refresh this junk all the way into Ignore yet.

leave it to the pros like 6celtics33. way more value over replacement poster

6celtics33 and I have been putting down Bron bois for the last decade on BO, we just have different styles of doing it.

Last generation of Bron homers have given up, this is just the new battle with the baby Bron bois who don’t know any better.

Next.

pcptrade · 02-14-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ23Collector

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/artic...16751_38463058

Brand new information or just rehashed old news? Hard to take seriously when you have an non-athlete in second position of a greatest athlete of all times poll

Usain Bolt is not even on the list. What else would you expect given the poll participants and their IQ?

"The Feb. 4-5, 2023, survey was conducted among a representative sample of 2,203 U.S. adults, with an unweighted margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points."

6celtics33 · 02-14-2023, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

Usain Bolt is not even on the list. What else would you expect given the poll participants and their IQ?

"The Feb. 4-5, 2023, survey was conducted among a representative sample of 2,203 U.S. adults, with an unweighted margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points."

Wayne Gretzky not on there either. But did they list the iq of the voters? I missed that. You like to always post these types of things. Are they dumb if they don’t agree with you automatically?

pcptrade · 02-14-2023, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Wayne Gretzky not on there either. But did they list the iq of the voters? I missed that. You like to always post these types of things. Are they dumb if they don’t agree with you automatically?

Yes I do. I never said someone is dumb if they don't agree with me automatically. When I see something like this, I just factor in the avg IQ of Americans compared to rest of the world.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitAmerica...s_of_all_time/

6celtics33 · 02-14-2023, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

Yes I do. I never said someone is dumb if they don't agree with me automatically. When I see something like this, I just factor in the avg IQ of Americans compared to rest of the world.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitAmerica...s_of_all_time/

BO has Jordan pretty far in the lead. Are we all dumb? Players that played against both like Jason Kidd, Garnett, Ray Allen all pick Jordan. Are they all dumb?

Everybody is low iq unless they see it your way?

pcptrade · 02-14-2023, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

BO has Jordan pretty far in the lead. Are we all dumb? Players that played against both like Jason Kidd, Garnett, Ray Allen all pick Jordan. Are they all dumb?

Everybody is low iq unless they see it your way?

I am sorry you see it that way

6celtics33 · 02-14-2023, 05:30 PM

Ahh, ok. We be dumb over here in the states. But plenty of foreigners love what we are selling and can’t get enough of our culture. Oh well. Enjoy

pcptrade · 02-14-2023, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Ahh, ok. We be dumb over here in the states. But plenty of foreigners love what we are selling and can’t get enough of our culture. Oh well. Enjoy

You are not getting the point and I don't think you will because you have a preconceived notion of what I am thinking when you really don't know what I am thinking. I will stop here

6celtics33 · 02-14-2023, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

You are not getting the point and I don't think you will because you have a preformed notion of what I am thinking when you really don't know what I am thinking. I will stop here

Do tell then. I’ll listen. Sorry for preforming you

pcptrade · 02-14-2023, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Do tell then. I’ll listen. Sorry for preforming you

I already told you. You didn't listen?

6celtics33 · 02-14-2023, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

I already told you. You didn't listen?

Oh ok. Well f it then. You linked a Reddit and I clicked it and it had another top 5 Lebron wasn’t on and then people talking about squash. Is that what the worldwide smarties watch? I’d rather be dumb then.

I have to say. I’m driving and at the end of a 12 hour day but I have no clue what you’re taking about.

pcptrade · 02-14-2023, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Oh ok. Well f it then. You linked a Reddit and I clicked it and it had another top 5 Lebron wasn’t on and then people talking about squash. Is that what the worldwide smarties watch? I’d rather be dumb then.

I have to say. I’m driving and at the end of a 12 hour day but I have no clue what you’re taking about.

"Your eyes only see and your ears only hear what your brain is looking for". Drive safe and enjoy the rest of your day

Kingofkings1281 · 02-14-2023, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by williemayshayes

Patrick Mahomes has 2 titles in 5 years.
Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre has 2 titles in 30+ years.

This idea that championships are overwhelmingly the standard in individual achievement is a new phenomenon.

Jim Brown was widely regarded the greatest player ever, in TWO sports.

Brady has less support for GOAT status than Jordan. Many believe he wasn’t even a Top 2 QB of his era. Team matters in team games.

Simple answer is counting to 6 and planting your flag. A nuanced answer means looking at everything and taking emotion out of it.

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Who are these “many” that don’t believe Brady is even a top 2 QB of his era? I swear this asinine “Brady isn’t as good as you remember him” garbage just recently popped up.

6celtics33 · 02-14-2023, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

"Your eyes only see and your ears only hear what your brain is looking for". Drive safe and enjoy the rest of your day

I guess so Morpheus. You as well!

eastbayak · 02-14-2023, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Oh ok. Well f it then. You linked a Reddit and I clicked it and it had another top 5 Lebron wasn’t on and then people talking about squash. Is that what the worldwide smarties watch? I’d rather be dumb then.

I have to say. I’m driving and at the end of a 12 hour day but I have no clue what you’re taking about.

Well, if it makes you feel better, you're definitely dumb.

Posting on a forum while driving is about as dumb as one can get.

6celtics33 · 02-14-2023, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

Well, if it makes you feel better, you're definitely dumb.

Posting on a forum while driving is about as dumb as one can get.

Endless red lights my man

eastbayak · 02-14-2023, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Endless red lights my man

Poor justification.

You're still a distracted driver and liability to others, my man.

williemayshayes · 02-14-2023, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

Who are these “many” that don’t believe Brady is even a top 2 QB of his era? I swear this asinine “Brady isn’t as good as you remember him” garbage just recently popped up.

Brady has been All-Pro 1st team 3 times
Rodgers 4X
Manning 7X

It didn’t recently pop up. This has been his entire career.

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Kingofkings1281 · 02-14-2023, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by williemayshayes

Brady has been All-Pro 1st team 3 times
Rodgers 4X
Manning 7X

It didn’t recently pop up. This has been his entire career.

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Yet almost every single time Brady played both of them when it mattered, they lost. I’ll also take the five Super Bowl MVP’s over a few more regular season accolades.

6celtics33 · 02-14-2023, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

Poor justification.

You're still a distracted driver and liability to others, my man.

It’s not driving when you’re sitting still is it. I’m home. All my liability amounted to nothing. You can rest easy now.

6celtics33 · 02-14-2023, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

Yet almost every single time Brady played both of them when it mattered, they lost. I’ll also take the five Super Bowl MVP’s over a few more regular season accolades.

I don’t know what people are watching if they can’t say Brady is the best qb

02-14-2023, 03:56 PM	#279
MJ23Collector Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 151	https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/artic...16751_38463058 Brand new information or just rehashed old news? Hard to take seriously when you have an non-athlete in second position of a greatest athlete of all times poll

02-14-2023, 05:30 PM	#286
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,315	Ahh, ok. We be dumb over here in the states. But plenty of foreigners love what we are selling and can’t get enough of our culture. Oh well. Enjoy