Durant requests a trade

[Giroux]

Originally Posted by JRX

Nah Simmons never reached kd levels. I dont know if its partly these guys being in their 30s and realizing while still great, they're no longer the alphas in the league. Bos made kd look old in the playoffs.

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He sat out for an entire season because he was afraid of noted rim protector Trae Young lol

[daeve]

redditors starting to call KD+Kyrie Snake'n'Flake

then someone added Simmons to make it Snake, Flake, and Mental Health Break

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by JRX

Nah Simmons never reached kd levels. I dont know if its partly these guys being in their 30s and realizing while still great, they're no longer the alphas in the league. Bos made kd look old in the playoffs.

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People really have no damn context.

Half the people here follow narratives and the others drive the actual gameplay.

KD bar none, IMO, could beat prime LeBron. I remember watching prime LeBron vs basically prime KD and saying to myself; how is KD better than LeBron? KD can take over; LeBron is more consistent and improves team members more.

[Nomad]

So LeBron is more of a Nesmith and KD a Kendall Brown.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Would be best for the NBA if he is not traded. What a baby.

This is pretty much how I feel.

If KD wasn't sure about the direction of the Nets he shouldn't have signed that MAX extension last summer. If he hadn't, he'd be a free agent right now.

But you can't take the money, and THEN demand a trade a year later just as that extension is starting to kick in.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Is it a hot take if I say Durant is overrated at this point?

When he's healthy, he's still a terrific player.

BUT.....he's going to be 34 before the next season starts and has missed roughly half his teams' games the past two seasons.

In other words, you can no longer rely on him to be consistently healthy, which is why nobody is willing to offer a huge package for him.

He's 34, not 24.......

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Kevin Durant is an all time great no matter what people think of him. Off the court, he is a head case that gets his feelings hurt way too easily.

Should have seen that when he cried and called his mommy the MVP. It was touching at the moment but now shows he’s a big baby man.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by mfw13

When he's healthy, he's still a terrific player.

BUT.....he's going to be 34 before the next season starts and has missed roughly half his teams' games the past two seasons.

In other words, you can no longer rely on him to be consistently healthy, which is why nobody is willing to offer a huge package for him.

He's 34, not 24.......

Cripes, please ask to have your name changed to Durantis34.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Cripes, please ask to have your name changed to Durantis34.

Hey....it's a relevant factor that needs to be discussed.

- AD was 26 when the Lakers traded a huge package for him in summer 2019.

- PG13 was 29 when the Clippers traded a huge package for him in summer 2019.

- Rudy Gobert was 30 when the T'Wolves traded a huge package for him last month.

- Even James Harden was only 31 when the Nets traded a huge package to acquire him from the Rockets last year.

NOBODY has ever traded a huge package for a 34-year-old, let alone an oft-injured 34-year-old. Yet that appears to be what the Nets are asking for....no wonder a deal doesn't seem close to getting done....

[daeve]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Hey....it's a relevant factor that needs to be discussed.

- AD was 26 when the Lakers traded a huge package for him in summer 2019.

- PG13 was 29 when the Clippers traded a huge package for him in summer 2019.

- Rudy Gobert was 30 when the T'Wolves traded a huge package for him last month.

- Even James Harden was only 31 when the Nets traded a huge package to acquire him from the Rockets last year.

NOBODY has ever traded a huge package for a 34-year-old, let alone an oft-injured 34-year-old. Yet that appears to be what the Nets are asking for....no wonder a deal doesn't seem close to getting done....

You gotta wonder if their asking price will soften a bit after meeting with JT... it seems like KD just doesn't give a lick.

I think if the Nets want to stay relevant - then seeing what Brown can do as the #1 guy makes the most sense.

Because yes, KD is injured often - and one big risk by opening the season with him playing and hoping the asking price can go up by mid-season once Ayton is available to be traded is that he could get injured again. There's also the non-zero chance that a sulking KD doesn't look like a top 5 player and if they're losing and pouting then some teams may lower their offers too.

So in light of the recent news/meeting - I think he does get moved before pre-season. And Kyrie gets bought out or shipped to San Antonio before getting bought out.

[Zedlaw]

KD loves to play basketball. I'd see him join a Chinese league before sitting out a trade demand. KD is more Jimmy Butler than Ben Simmons

[Zedlaw]

That said, if he feels a tweak, I could definitely see him go into Kawhi mode

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by daeve

You gotta wonder if their asking price will soften a bit after meeting with JT... it seems like KD just doesn't give a lick.

I think if the Nets want to stay relevant - then seeing what Brown can do as the #1 guy makes the most sense.

Because yes, KD is injured often - and one big risk by opening the season with him playing and hoping the asking price can go up by mid-season once Ayton is available to be traded is that he could get injured again. There's also the non-zero chance that a sulking KD doesn't look like a top 5 player and if they're losing and pouting then some teams may lower their offers too.

So in light of the recent news/meeting - I think he does get moved before pre-season. And Kyrie gets bought out or shipped to San Antonio before getting bought out.

I wonder if KD realizes how much he has hurt his trade value by trying to get his (hand-picked) coach and GM fired?

Why would any coach/GM want a guy like that on their team? Especially a player who is past his prime, injury-prone, and who is due $200 million over the next four seasons.

[duron]

Durant can’t even take part in long form media anymore without his handler Eddie Gonzalez.

[rustywest]

Ah... Kevin Durant. I could write a very long essay on Kev but I wouldn't waste my precious time unless you paid me. Russell Westbrook was his meat-shield for criticism for 8 years in OKC which granted him immunity

[tjforce]

Durant is the greatest hired gun in NBA history.

The guys on the all time list ahead of him (and some below him), all championship level franchise centerpieces. But you pull Durant from the team he led to a Championship for 2 seasons, they didn't fall apart, they won another title a few years later.

[Giroux]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Durant is the greatest hired gun in NBA history.

The guys on the all time list ahead of him (and some below him), all championship level franchise centerpieces. But you pull Durant from the team he led to a Championship for 2 seasons, they didn't fall apart, they won another title a few years later.

They also won before he joined them. Of course the Warriors are a capable team without him

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by mfw13

I wonder if KD realizes how much he has hurt his trade value by trying to get his (hand-picked) coach and GM fired?

Why would any coach/GM want a guy like that on their team? Especially a player who is past his prime, injury-prone, and who is due $200 million over the next four seasons.

Hurting his trade value only helps KD.

[Zedlaw]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Durant is the greatest hired gun in NBA history.

The guys on the all time list ahead of him (and some below him), all championship level franchise centerpieces. But you pull Durant from the team he led to a Championship for 2 seasons, they didn't fall apart, they won another title a few years later.

Lebron is the epitome of hired gun. You get a championship but he’s gutted your franchise of all future assets and leaves you with nothing but a bill and memories. The Warriors don’t win without the pieces they picked up from KD’s exit.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Zedlaw

Lebron is the epitome of hired gun. You get a championship but he’s gutted your franchise of all future assets and leaves you with nothing but a bill and memories. The Warriors don’t win without the pieces they picked up from KD’s exit.

Nope... not at all in my book.

A hired gun is a guy you can add into an already well oiled machine and win it all with, then continue to succeed in the years after he left.

In Miami, Cleveland, and LA, LeBron went to a team that wasn't good, they built around him, won them titles at each stop, then when he left the organization couldn't maintain success.

Clyde Drexler was a great hired gun to get Hakeem his second title.

Ray Allen was a very good hired gun to get 'ships for Boston and Miami.

Pau Gasol was a very good hired gun to get Kobe more titles.

KD was the greatest hired gun to get the Warriors dynasty 2 more rings.

LeBron didn't win the title 'for' any other players. He was the undisputed centerpiece, not a guy to get a group that was close over the hump.

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

People really have no damn context.

Half the people here follow narratives and the others drive the actual gameplay.

KD bar none, IMO, could beat prime LeBron. I remember watching prime LeBron vs basically prime KD and saying to myself; how is KD better than LeBron? KD can take over; LeBron is more consistent and improves team members more.

You can say with a straight face you think Lebron would lose to KD 1vs1? He will just post up on him.

[cdeck22]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Nope... not at all in my book.

A hired gun is a guy you can add into an already well oiled machine and win it all with, then continue to succeed in the years after he left.

In Miami, Cleveland, and LA, LeBron went to a team that wasn't good, they built around him, won them titles at each stop, then when he left the organization couldn't maintain success.

Clyde Drexler was a great hired gun to get Hakeem his second title.

Ray Allen was a very good hired gun to get 'ships for Boston and Miami.

Pau Gasol was a very good hired gun to get Kobe more titles.

KD was the greatest hired gun to get the Warriors dynasty 2 more rings.

LeBron didn't win the title 'for' any other players. He was the undisputed centerpiece, not a guy to get a group that was close over the hump.

Agreed

[Zedlaw]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Nope... not at all in my book.

A hired gun is a guy you can add into an already well oiled machine and win it all with, then continue to succeed in the years after he left.

In Miami, Cleveland, and LA, LeBron went to a team that wasn't good, they built around him, won them titles at each stop, then when he left the organization couldn't maintain success.

Clyde Drexler was a great hired gun to get Hakeem his second title.

Ray Allen was a very good hired gun to get 'ships for Boston and Miami.

Pau Gasol was a very good hired gun to get Kobe more titles.

KD was the greatest hired gun to get the Warriors dynasty 2 more rings.

LeBron didn't win the title 'for' any other players. He was the undisputed centerpiece, not a guy to get a group that was close over the hump.

Why can only a good team have a hired gun? I see we have different definitions, but I view a hired gun as a desperate move not complimentary.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

You can say with a straight face you think Lebron would lose to KD 1vs1? He will just post up on him.

I'm not sure who would win 1 v 1. LeBron is the better player but 1 v 1 helps Durant close that gap because Durant excels as getting buckets and individual play whereas one of LeBron's best attributes is his court vision and getting others involved.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Nope... not at all in my book.

A hired gun is a guy you can add into an already well oiled machine and win it all with, then continue to succeed in the years after he left.

In Miami, Cleveland, and LA, LeBron went to a team that wasn't good, they built around him, won them titles at each stop, then when he left the organization couldn't maintain success.

Clyde Drexler was a great hired gun to get Hakeem his second title.

Ray Allen was a very good hired gun to get 'ships for Boston and Miami.

Pau Gasol was a very good hired gun to get Kobe more titles.

KD was the greatest hired gun to get the Warriors dynasty 2 more rings.

LeBron didn't win the title 'for' any other players. He was the undisputed centerpiece, not a guy to get a group that was close over the hump.

LeBron was most definitely a hired gun in Miami, but that's about it that I disagree with. Also that Heat team won 47 games on the back of Wade. They definitely weren't a bad team because of him (although that roster was uhm.....not great)