Jayson Tatum Record 100 Turnovers in Playoffs

[tjforce]

Couldn't resist

[k13]

Only because they played so many games.

Trea Young would have had 150 if he made the finals....

[bmf]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Couldn't resist

Lmao funniest thing I’ve seen all day.

[bmf]

I saw on Sports Center Tatum had the worst 2-point field-goal percentage in the NBA finals in the last 60 seasons. I knew he didn’t play well but I didn’t realize it was that bad.

[ChasingZion]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Couldn't resist

Haha that's hilarious!!

Tatum will be fine, he's young and was asked to do things outside of his primary skill set. He certainly didn't look great when they needed him last night, but he is young and will have more chances as he continues to develop. I'd say the complete lack of offensive flow/identity is more the fault of the coaching staff than it is on Tatum, though as the 'star' he deserves some of the criticism headed his way.

[rms13]

I hope the C's trade Tatum this off season. I know it's never going to happen but he's proven he's not the #1 on a championship team. I'm sure it will come out that his shoulder was more injured than they let on but he looked like a guy that didn't want the ball in his hands over and over when they needed their #1 player to step up. If they could bring in a Chris Paul type PG I think they could contend but unfortunately there are no Chris Paul type PG in the NBA anymore other than CP. Jaylen proved he is the alpha dog on this team but he's not #1 on a championship team either. I would do Tatum for Zion, AD, Dame or any other superstar that is available

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by ChasingZion

Haha that's hilarious!!

Tatum will be fine, he's young and was asked to do things outside of his primary skill set. He certainly didn't look great when they needed him last night, but he is young and will have more chances as he continues to develop. I'd say the complete lack of offensive flow/identity is more the fault of the coaching staff than it is on Tatum, though as the 'star' he deserves some of the criticism headed his way.

It puts his ability into perspective.

He's a hall of fame trajectory guy. But let's not talk about him along side of guys like LeBron, Curry, KD, or Giannis just yet. He deserves to be in the conversation with the next 15 guys after that.

And lets certainly stop talking about him and Kobe.

[asujbl]

What a wild thread about a 24 year old

[boxbuster7]

Tatum is Booker 2.0 - Going to need to prove it next year or the year after if we take him seriously

[rms13]

Originally Posted by asujbl

What a wild thread about a 24 year old

24 year old who has 5 full years of NBA experience and has now been to 1 finals and 2 more ECF. If you compare him to what other all time great #1 alpha guys like MJ, Lebron, ,Kobe, KD did at the same age in the post season there is a huge difference. His numbers were close to Steph's age 24 post season but that was Steph's first post season. If you want a good comp for Tatum at age 23/24 in the post season it is Harden. Enough said

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by rms13

24 year old who has 5 full years of NBA experience and has now been to 1 finals and 2 more ECF. If you compare him to what other all time great #1 alpha guys like MJ, Lebron, ,Kobe, KD did at the same age in the post season there is a huge difference. His numbers were close to Steph's age 24 post season but that was Steph's first post season. If you want a good comp for Tatum at age 23/24 in the post season it is Harden. Enough said

Nope.

And I hate the Celtics

[DirkNFan]

I don't hate/like Tatum (but do feel he is overrated relative to Jaylen Brown), but in his defense, the Celtics played a lot more games (24 vs. 21 for Warriors) in the playoffs, so setting a turnover postseason total record is not that farfetched. Besides sweeping Brooklyn, they had 2 series go to 7 games before playing the Warriors.

I'm sure if we look at turnover/game in the playoffs, he'd still be at/near the top of the list too.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Nope.

And I hate the Celtics

What is you're argument other than nope? I am C's fan and have been watching him his whole career. I see a talented player who lacks the intangibles to be the best player on a championship team. Tatum was 21-32 from the line in a 6 game finals series. Harden got to the line 50-70 times in 6 game series. Is that just the refs not calling fouls for him? I watched all the games and I saw a player that looked scared or at least reluctant to go the basket and every time the ball was in his hands in important situations he settled for a 15 foot jumper that he was hitting 20-30% of the time or he kicked it out for Smart to brick a 3. And on the other side of the ball you had Wiggins who continually was going to basket and getting hammered by Time Lord and Horford and he kept doing it even though he wasn't getting calls half the time.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by rms13

What is you're argument other than nope? I am C's fan and have been watching him his whole career. I see a talented player who lacks the intangibles to be the best player on a championship team. Tatum was 21-32 from the line in a 6 game finals series. Harden got to the line 50-70 times in 6 game series. Is that just the refs not calling fouls for him? I watched all the games and I saw a player that looked scared or at least reluctant to go the basket and every time the ball was in his hands in important situations he settled for a 15 foot jumper that he was hitting 20-30% of the time or he kicked it out for Smart to brick a 3. And on the other side of the ball you had Wiggins who continually was going to basket and getting hammered by Time Lord and Horford and he kept doing it even though he wasn't getting calls half the time.

TLDR.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by asujbl

TLDR.

Because you have nothing to add

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by rms13

Because you have nothing to add

Agreed

[rms13]

Originally Posted by DirkNFan

I don't hate/like Tatum (but do feel he is overrated relative to Jaylen Brown), but in his defense, the Celtics played a lot more games (24 vs. 21 for Warriors) in the playoffs, so setting a turnover postseason total record is not that farfetched. Besides sweeping Brooklyn, they had 2 series go to 7 games before playing the Warriors.

I'm sure if we look at turnover/game in the playoffs, he'd still be at/near the top of the list too.

The playoff games played is a wash. If you want to make that point I think the more important thing is Tatum played 76 regular season games, Smart 71 Horford 69, Jaylen 68, Time Lord 61 and Poole 76, Wiggins 71, Steph played 64, Draymond 46, Klay 32. The Warriors big 3 all missed a lot of time with "injuries" during the regular season. Maybe Tatum decides next year after playing over 90% of the regular season for 5 years that he should take a few breaks throughout the season and play 60 games to save himself for the post season.

[biggieruth]

Originally Posted by jurule

Another thing relevant to his turnovers, he has been ball handling way too much for my liking. He is 6'9 playing way out on the perimeter with 6'3 quicker guys guarding him. He needs a post up game and to work around the elbows more. His handle is not great.
AND GET A THIRD SCORER! GSW had Poole and Wiggins to go with Klay and Steph. Who did Tatum and brown have??

I see your the only one that knows basketball

[biggieruth]

Originally Posted by asujbl

TLDR.

Smart take. Tatum goes to the rim to avoid contact. That's why euro steps away from the defenders. He also keeps the ball down by his hips. He should have the ball high going up to dunk the ball.This why I always like Brown a little more then Tatum.Brown attacks more aggressive he has more dog in him. Tatum kinda soft attacking the rim.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by rms13

The playoff games played is a wash. If you want to make that point I think the more important thing is Tatum played 76 regular season games, Smart 71 Horford 69, Jaylen 68, Time Lord 61 and Poole 76, Wiggins 71, Steph played 64, Draymond 46, Klay 32. The Warriors big 3 all missed a lot of time with "injuries" during the regular season. Maybe Tatum decides next year after playing over 90% of the regular season for 5 years that he should take a few breaks throughout the season and play 60 games to save himself for the post season.

it wasn't that he looked tired, he looked unmotivated to take charge and be THE GUY. So many times saw on offense seeing him get a matchup that favors him, he pauses and then passes to someone else around the 3 point line. Maybe his personality is one that is very chill and quiet but it also can read as not having fire like others that are reaching the top

[jurule]

Originally Posted by rms13

The playoff games played is a wash. If you want to make that point I think the more important thing is Tatum played 76 regular season games, Smart 71 Horford 69, Jaylen 68, Time Lord 61 and Poole 76, Wiggins 71, Steph played 64, Draymond 46, Klay 32. The Warriors big 3 all missed a lot of time with "injuries" during the regular season. Maybe Tatum decides next year after playing over 90% of the regular season for 5 years that he should take a few breaks throughout the season and play 60 games to save himself for the post season.

Please no 'load management.'
The best players should be rewarded for showing up. The Nba needs to pay based on games played. Don't wanna see this rubbish. If they wanna be held in the same regard as past greats, then play the 82 games and earn it! You are meant to be elite athletes with advanced nutrition, training and technology getting paid obscene money! Respect for Tatum being so durable to this point!

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[matt roberson]

Originally Posted by nbahobbyaddict

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/...me-6-choke-job

Just saw this. That is a crazy stat! Between Tatum’s turnovers and 4th quarter disappearances, it begs a few questions:

Was this Championship more about Warriors being great or Celtics wetting the bed?

neither or both.....

Will the Celtics make it back to the Finals to redeem themselves?

no

And will Tatum’s legacy recover from one of the worst Finals performances by a superstar in history?

no

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[asujbl]

Originally Posted by biggieruth

Smart take. Tatum goes to the rim to avoid contact. That's why euro steps away from the defenders. He also keeps the ball down by his hips. He should have the ball high going up to dunk the ball.This why I always like Brown a little more then Tatum.Brown attacks more aggressive he has more dog in him. Tatum kinda soft attacking the rim.

Smooches

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by matt roberson

......

yeah kinda agree on that last part. Tatum's whole legacy is going to be who he just disappeared in the NBA Finals, which is sad, because he's a really good player.

Boston is going to stick around the next couple of years, so long as they keep Brown and Tatum there, but they need to find a true PG.

at the same time, the East is loaded with the Bucks, Nets, Heat, 76ers, and Hawks.

so it could be a while before he gets another chance to redeem himself.

[pete2345]

The most overrated player I can remember.