🔥🔥The Official 2022 NBA Finals Thread: Golden State Warriors VS Boston Celtics🔥🔥

[pete2345]

Curry is easily ahead of bron on the list once he gets his 4th. Anyone who disagrees can put themselves to bed.

[Ericc5Bears]

Originally Posted by Nomad

What's the potential lineup change Ime is talking about? Anyone know?

They've had some success going small, a lineup I really like for them is Smart - White - Brown - Tatum - Williams. That exact lineup was actually +8 in 3 minutes in game 5 then never saw the floor again after that. I think the smaller lineup should enable them to slow steph down a bit more than they did in games 1-4 without totally selling out to stop him like they did in game 5.

[Nomad]

Cogent answer. See it wasn't a nesmith question at all, I am a realist.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by pete2345

Curry is easily ahead of bron on the list once he gets his 4th. Anyone who disagrees can put themselves to bed.

I'm a Warriors fan and can't stand LeBron but I wouldn't put Steph ahead just yet on my all-time list. I believe he has a chance if he can win this year and add more. I believe Steph's(with Klay) impact to the game is much more than LeBron's.

[SK40]

Good breakdown of the adjustments the Celtics made and how it cost them.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I'm a Warriors fan and can't stand LeBron but I wouldn't put Steph ahead just yet on my all-time list. I believe he has a chance if he can win this year and add more. I believe Steph's(with Klay) impact to the game is much more than LeBron's.

go to bed.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

No clue but it won’t be inserting Nesmith into the starting line.

Yeah but if you mention him multiple times per day on the blowout site it can't hurt amirite?

[drobfan8]

Interesting question if Steph's 4 rings = Bron's 4.

I say no. Even as what many would call me as a Bron hater.

Bron is just a freak athlete that has been almost unmatched. Steph is more skilled and a better shooter. Sure. But every night LeBron has walked on to an NBA court he's had the mismatch. Faster then the 4s running around, stronger than the 3s.

Steph has not had that advantage. He's had to work way harder.

Steph is obviously a far better leader and teammate. I can hear an argument for Steph. But Bron has 4 finals MVPs. Sure Steph should have 2, but hey, the media amirite.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Interesting question if Steph's 4 rings = Bron's 4.

I say no. Even as what many would call me as a Bron hater.

Bron is just a freak athlete that has been almost unmatched. Steph is more skilled and a better shooter. Sure. But every night LeBron has walked on to an NBA court he's had the mismatch. Faster then the 4s running around, stronger than the 3s.

Steph has not had that advantage. He's had to work way harder.

Steph is obviously a far better leader and teammate. I can hear an argument for Steph. But Bron has 4 finals MVPs. Sure Steph should have 2, but hey, the media amirite.

...and Lebron plays defense.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Interesting question if Steph's 4 rings = Bron's 4.

I say no. Even as what many would call me as a Bron hater.

Bron is just a freak athlete that has been almost unmatched. Steph is more skilled and a better shooter. Sure. But every night LeBron has walked on to an NBA court he's had the mismatch. Faster then the 4s running around, stronger than the 3s.

Steph has not had that advantage. He's had to work way harder.

Steph is obviously a far better leader and teammate. I can hear an argument for Steph. But Bron has 4 finals MVPs. Sure Steph should have 2, but hey, the media amirite.

4 = 4, but I don't think simply matching Lebron's number of rings makes him equal or better. I think Lebron is the better all around basketball player, and I don't think it's close enough to merit a debate. I also don't think Curry's ridiculous shooting offsets the advantages Lebron has. Lebron is the most complete basketball player I've ever seen.

Where I think things tip in favor of Steph (gravity aside) is the leadership and teammate stuff you mentioned. He is the culture and the system of the Warriors. And I think for all of his shortcomings, he's the better player to build around because of what he does bring. You don't need one guy who can do it all, but one guy to build around where you can fit pieces and run a system to maximize what you have. I look at Steph as an exciting version of Tim Duncan, and I don't think if you give Lebron the Warriors roster and coaching staff you get the same results. I also don't think Steph could one man show a team as far as Lebron can, but I think he provides a higher ceiling with the right pieces around him.

He's also gotta get to 4 before he has 4, so there's that.

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Interesting question if Steph's 4 rings = Bron's 4.

I say no. Even as what many would call me as a Bron hater.

Bron is just a freak athlete that has been almost unmatched. Steph is more skilled and a better shooter. Sure. But every night LeBron has walked on to an NBA court he's had the mismatch. Faster then the 4s running around, stronger than the 3s.

Steph has not had that advantage. He's had to work way harder.

Steph is obviously a far better leader and teammate. I can hear an argument for Steph. But Bron has 4 finals MVPs. Sure Steph should have 2, but hey, the media amirite.

I had to unblock you to address you.

I'll address this while trying to stay sane.

Do you think certain athletes are born with god gifted advantages? Sure, but hasn't it been well documents how much LeBron spends on his body or how he rode his bike into the stadium for an added workout?

Have you heard of a guy named Dell Curry? Did you know he used to play in the NBA? And you're talking about god gifted? The genes in Dell passed to both Seth and Steph - So predisposed advantage 100% goes to Curry.

LeBron is a freak who puts in the time, he puts in the effort and didn't have the media hype Steph had by any imagination.

Time to go back to the ignore button.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Yeah but if you mention him multiple times per day on the blowout site it can't hurt amirite?

I mention a few other things but in my honest assessment I do think that not giving the team a jolt in the 3rd or 4th period, and the stars some rest, was the difference in two consecutive losses. We are talking a basketball series with the Warriors and leaving your most physical player this side of Smart on the bench.

We can talk Darius Garland all day, or the relative merits of Logomen. Or shoot, use the playoff thread as a Curry v. Bron showcase, if you want.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

I had to unblock you to address you.

I'll address this while trying to stay sane.

Do you think certain athletes are born with god gifted advantages? Sure, but hasn't it been well documents how much LeBron spends on his body or how he rode his bike into the stadium for an added workout?

Have you heard of a guy named Dell Curry? Did you know he used to play in the NBA? And you're talking about god gifted? The genes in Dell passed to both Seth and Steph - So predisposed advantage 100% goes to Curry.

LeBron is a freak who puts in the time, he puts in the effort and didn't have the media hype Steph had by any imagination.

Time to go back to the ignore button.

I don't think mentioning Lebron's athletic advantages detracts from his accomplishments. He's bigger, stronger, can jump higher, is faster end to end with the ball, etc. I think in terms of conditioning and body care they're probably the top two guys in the NBA, and the results speak for themselves since they're the two greatest players of this generation. But to say Steph has more natural advantages than Lebron because of his dad is like saying Christian McCaffrey has more natural advantages than Randy Moss or Calvin Johnson. Regardless, you don't get bonus points for doing more with less.

As far as media hype goes, I remember Lebron being compared to Jordan when he was in high school. He's the most hyped player I've ever known. Consensus first overall pick. Curry went 7th and had durability concerns coming out of college. For what it's worth, Lebron lived up to that hype.

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I don't think mentioning Lebron's athletic advantages detracts from his accomplishments. He's bigger, stronger, can jump higher, is faster end to end with the ball, etc. I think in terms of conditioning and body care they're probably the top two guys in the NBA, and the results speak for themselves since they're the two greatest players of this generation. But to say Steph has more natural advantages than Lebron because of his dad is like saying Christian McCaffrey has more natural advantages than Randy Moss or Calvin Johnson. Regardless, you don't get bonus points for doing more with less.

As far as media hype goes, I remember Lebron being compared to Jordan when he was in high school. He's the most hyped player I've ever known. Consensus first overall pick. Curry went 7th and had durability concerns coming out of college. For what it's worth, Lebron lived up to that hype.

He certainly has more natural advantage.

If your father played in the NBA for 16 seasons and BOTH your sons make it to the NBA I'm giving natural advantage towards Steph. Dell was also a shooter; what is Curry? A shooter.
Basketball skill/coordination goes a VERY long ways in the NBA - whatever those natural coordination abilities are I can't explain, but Dell shot 40% from three for his career... That ability just didn't vanish in Steph. Steph is considered the GOAT for floor spacing and ability to shoot the ball.

[lemongoat1134]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

LeBron is a freak who puts in the time, he puts in the effort and didn't have the media hype Steph had by any imagination.

lol wut

[hermanotarjeta]

If Curry gets his fourth ring tonight, that would be more impressive than bron’s 4 rings.

First of all, Curry is six foot nothing and a hundred and nothing - he had to maximize use of all his talents to achieve what he has.

Bron on the other hand is the most gifted and talented physical specimen the NBA has ever seen, and he wasn’t even able to get more than 4 rings? Are you kidding me? The dude should have at least 6-8 rings by now since he has been to the finals ten times and has the greatest skills of all time. Unfortunately he underachieved for all that talent he has because he just isn’t wired right in the brain.

Curry stayed with the same team his entire career - impressive.

Lebron jumped self built teams - not so impressive. One ring with Cleveland? Fail given all that god-given talent. He should have at least 2-3 rings in Cleveland to support his case to be a top 5 player of all time.

If Curry can even win a fifth or sixth ring before all is said and done, you have some strong arguments to rank Curry above Bron in an all time list.

But he needs to take care of things tonight first.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

If Curry gets his fourth ring tonight, that would be more impressive than bron’s 4 rings.

First of all, Curry is six foot nothing and a hundred and nothing - he had to maximize use of all his talents to achieve what he has.

Bron on the other hand is the most gifted and talented physical specimen the NBA has ever seen, and he wasn’t even able to get more than 4 rings? Are you kidding me? The dude should have at least 6-8 rings by now since he has been to the finals ten times and has the greatest skills of all time. Unfortunately he underachieved for all that talent he has because he just isn’t wired right in the brain.

Curry stayed with the same team his entire career - impressive.

Lebron jumped self built teams - not so impressive. One ring with Cleveland? Fail given all that god-given talent. He should have at least 2-3 rings in Cleveland to support his case to be a top 5 player of all time.

If Curry can even win a fifth or sixth ring before all is said and done, you have some strong arguments to rank Curry above Bron in an all time list.

But he needs to take care of things tonight first.

Bron didn't have KD level talent as a teammate. This has been brought up countless times.

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[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

Bron didn't have KD level talent as a teammate. This has been brought up countless times.

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Oh yeah? I haven’t heard that one before. How many rings does KD have with the Nets or Thunder? - will he ever get another ring again?

If Curry wins another title or three without KD, wouldn’t that cement his legacy?

[Stackfan]

Andrew Wiggins best dunks!

https://twitter.com/nba/status/15365...Wrj9P8Gq0cNP5Q

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

Bron didn't have KD level talent as a teammate. This has been brought up countless times.

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True.

But if the Warriors win tonight (or on Sunday), Steph would have 2 titles with squads less talented than any of LeBron's championship as well as some LeBron's teams that fell short.

Doesn't mean he's better or at the same level as LeBron but the rings would be, at least, as impressive and meaningful as LeBron's.

[cms11]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

If Curry gets his fourth ring tonight, that would be more impressive than bron’s 4 rings.

First of all, Curry is six foot nothing and a hundred and nothing - he had to maximize use of all his talents to achieve what he has.

Bron on the other hand is the most gifted and talented physical specimen the NBA has ever seen, and he wasn’t even able to get more than 4 rings? Are you kidding me? The dude should have at least 6-8 rings by now since he has been to the finals ten times and has the greatest skills of all time. Unfortunately he underachieved for all that talent he has because he just isn’t wired right in the brain.

Curry stayed with the same team his entire career - impressive.

Lebron jumped self built teams - not so impressive. One ring with Cleveland? Fail given all that god-given talent. He should have at least 2-3 rings in Cleveland to support his case to be a top 5 player of all time.

If Curry can even win a fifth or sixth ring before all is said and done, you have some strong arguments to rank Curry above Bron in an all time list.

But he needs to take care of things tonight first.

It's a team game.

[Nomad]

Bingo.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by cms11

It's a team game.

Agreed. Bron could have been a better teammate.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Oh yeah? I haven’t heard that one before. How many rings does KD have with the Nets or Thunder? - will he ever get another ring again?

If Curry wins another title or three without KD, wouldn’t that cement his legacy?

Obviously it doesn't matter to the Steph-Bron comparison, what KD did on other teams, try not making your cognitive dissonance someone else's issue.

Curry's one ring without KD was against an injury-depleted squad.

I know the Curry pumpers desperately want him in the top ten discussion but these pesky points will keep being raised and keep being met with cognitive dissonance.

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[ninjacookies]

LeWeave and Mouthpiece Beaver both suck.

What a counterproductive argument over 2 silver spoon'd roundball beta males.




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