Topps out---Fanatics in

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by CicadaMound

The 90s boom introduced autographs, parallels, relics, and chrome cards into the hobby, which probably wouldn't have happened with a monopoly.

True, can definitely hurt innovation. Probably not too much innovation potential at risk with cardboard at this point though.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Glowbug27

The money under the current structure is nothing to what is now being guaranteed to MLBPA by Fanatics

"The MLBPA deal begins in 2023. MLB’s current agreement with Topps runs through 2025.

Clark wrote in his memo that the undisclosed total value of the MLBPA deal is more than 10 times bigger than any deal the union has ever struck. He added that it is part of a series of recent deals that will generate nearly $2 billion through 2045.

Topps did not immediately respond to requests for comment."

For all the people picking the player's side in the cba, remember neither they nor the owners care about you. They don't even care if the hobby stays relevant, they got their money.

[Cardboard Dawg]

Originally Posted by Glowbug27

The money under the current structure is nothing to what is now being guaranteed to MLBPA by Fanatics

"The MLBPA deal begins in 2023. MLB’s current agreement with Topps runs through 2025.

Clark wrote in his memo that the undisclosed total value of the MLBPA deal is more than 10 times bigger than any deal the union has ever struck. He added that it is part of a series of recent deals that will generate nearly $2 billion through 2045.

Topps did not immediately respond to requests for comment."

Who's starting the GoFundMe for Topps?

[Glowbug27]

Originally Posted by JRX

But no full fledge fully licensed baseball cards for 2 years?

As I see it, unless Topps comes to some kind of an arrangement with Fanatics, 2022 would be the last year of Topps cards with player names and images.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by JRX

Or just open their own fanatics shops, they don't need the lcs, there are tons of empty retail space if they really want brick and mortar locations. They'll also probably have shops at every stadium.

What I meant with the franchise program is why go through the hassle of buying retail space and having to start from scratch everywhere when you can just have the existing shops make some adjustments. Not sure that Fanatics is looking to get into the actual card shop business, the buying and selling of singles and supplies. But make the shops sign a royalty agreement on sealed products and have so much Fanatics displays in the building.

[jjrpilot]

Horrible news.

[1000 Sport Zonk]

Originally Posted by Silent George

I really don't think they're going to do anything that'll cost them 1 penny more.

That said, I really hope someone is working on an off-checklist Manfred as Satan SSSP into their final release.

Most likely, but also, color variants dont cost much more than a penny as it is.

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by whitmm

What I meant with the franchise program is why go through the hassle of buying retail space and having to start from scratch everywhere when you can just have the existing shops make some adjustments. Not sure that Fanatics is looking to get into the actual card shop business, the buying and selling of singles and supplies. But make the shops sign a royalty agreement on sealed products and have so much Fanatics displays in the building.

Or, Fanatics just keeps the cards in their existing shops, maybe adds "Lidz" and doesn't have to deal with royalties or anything and keeps 100% profit at home.

Most cards sold online, you think bots were bad before....

[JRX]

Originally Posted by whitmm

What I meant with the franchise program is why go through the hassle of buying retail space and having to start from scratch everywhere when you can just have the existing shops make some adjustments. Not sure that Fanatics is looking to get into the actual card shop business, the buying and selling of singles and supplies. But make the shops sign a royalty agreement on sealed products and have so much Fanatics displays in the building.

They'll make the LCS owners a crap deal and some will take it because they'll have no choice.

[calculusdork]

Haven't read the thread ....

Worst part about this IMO is how much Topps is just going to mail it in until they're done.

[badkarma318]

There's ya boi, dead center on Mount D-Bag - the future leader of the industry.

[Cardboard Dawg]

Originally Posted by calculusdork

Haven't read the thread ....

Worst part about this IMO is how much Topps is just going to mail it in until they're done.

I've been thoroughly entertained for almost an hour now

[notoriousrmb]

Man...how much will the 2023 National stink now...

[redauto5]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

To get their executives a parachute

This is true. Topps execs hear MLB execs have equity stakes in Fanatics, see the shady shameful corrupt underhanded deal that went down today coming, and knew they needed to get what they could get for their shares before today happened.

And we are all what you call "bag holders". Sigh.

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[JRX]

2 years without fully licensed cards could also sink the baseball card hobby.

[Josie27]

Originally Posted by Stech36

Get ready for prices to be insane!

They have been for about 2 yrs now but greed can never be underestimated.


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[Glowbug27]

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

Horrible news.

Topps had a chance to avoid this. When Topps put themselves up for sale last last year/early this year, the rumor was that Fanatics was hot and heavy to buy Topps. When the market boomed and Topps decided to go the IPO route they snubbed Fanatics thinking that their license with MLB was a foregone conclusion. Topps execs getting greedy for IPO money. Now they don't have a pot to you know what in or a window to throw it out of.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by calculusdork

Haven't read the thread ....

Worst part about this IMO is how much Topps is just going to mail it in until they're done.

Reading an interesting bit elsewhere about how if Topps is sunk in 2022 money will flow to Hockey, Football, and Basketball.

I disagree, but there are some good points.

[jjrpilot]

Topps is the new tobacco cards....

When everyone reading this has been buried in the ground for at least 80-100 years. Our great, great, great grandkids will be looking at all the Topps cards like we do Tobacco cards.

Sad!

[GMRide27]

PWCC is enjoying this shift in hobby focus for the next day or two I'm sure.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by JRX

2 years without fully licensed cards could also sink the baseball card hobby.

Wont happen

[mwash1983]

Sooz said topps will 100% sell their name to fanatics.

[HOFAutoRookies]

#ToppsNow!!

[jjrpilot]

Get ready boyzzzzzz

Silly RPA rookies are gonna be in baseball. I don't get why all the football and basketball guys love RPAs...none are game worn.

Player puts on overly large jersey, takes it off, it gets cut up.

Baseball was spared from that so far. I bet Fanatics will do MLB RPAs out the wazooo...

[ThoseBackPages]

my body is not ready