Topps out---Fanatics in - Page 11

SupermanBrandon · 08-19-2021, 03:53 PM

Does this mean my '52 Mantle will be worth more?

discostu · 08-19-2021, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

Fanatics Heritage and Fanatics Now

IN

They've already filed for trademarks for this product.

It's a combination of Fanatics and Heritage - 2026 Fanatics Heretics.

Look for devilishly good inserts like "On Fire," "What's At Stake" and 1 per case "Schism" inserts.

Chase the rare Hellfire and Unorthodox parallels.

It's going to be HOT!!!

JRX · 08-19-2021, 03:53 PM

They will cater to the flippers though there does need to be some buyer at the end of the chain. It will be fascinating what they do, but for all those hoping they buy all the topps brands and keep their releases, I got bad news for you. They'll play off your addiction and expect you to buy whatever they make.

ewokpelts · 08-19-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cs2220

“The MLBPA deal begins in 2023. MLB’s current agreement with Topps runs through 2025.”

Does this mean 2024 and 2025 will be Topps with MLB logos but no player names?? I remember the old Griffey nintendo games had mlb license but not mlbpa and had to use made up names for the players. I hope not the case

It means Topps will have cards in 24 and 25, but panini won’t.

tedwilliamsfan · 08-19-2021, 03:54 PM

Just saw this news. Still not wrapping my head around it completely. As long as I still get my 2022 Series 1 Wander Franco "RC" Logo's is how far I'm thinking ahead at this time. Weird stuff.

1000 Sport Zonk · 08-19-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OscarOne

I want to not like sneaker culture. But, as an autograph guy, i struggle since...its not like we are any better. Especially autograph collectors.

I dont know. When it comes to cards i only collect Topps base sets of the Indians and Athletics, and i am worried this may be the end of that. I am bummed.

Dang, sports worlds doing a big cannonball into your pool. Indians, Athletics, and Topps all ceasing to exist in the next handful of years.

Biggums7 · 08-19-2021, 03:54 PM

Fanatics will buyout topps cheap since they have nothing to fall back on, rebrand them into the Fanatics family while keeping the name topps to use for marketing.

ewokpelts · 08-19-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by banosd

Wish it was Panini that lost its license instead

They did too.

Silent George · 08-19-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Not bones… they are an evolution of scales

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you made me hate my own teeth.

Bob Ross · 08-19-2021, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by banosd

Wish it was Panini that lost its license instead

Chicosbailbonds · 08-19-2021, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

They've already filed for trademarks for this product.

It's a combination of Fanatics and Heritage - 2026 Fanatics Heretics.

Look for devilishly good inserts like "On Fire," "What's At Stake" and 1 per case "Schism" inserts.

Chase the rare Hellfire and Unorthodox parallels.

It's going to be HOT!!!

WHAT ABOUT THE MOJO HITS?

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ewokpelts · 08-19-2021, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

How did Topps not just pony up whatever amount of money it took to keep the license?!

Why do you think they went public?

whitmm · 08-19-2021, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyT

Im actually saddened by this. I actually thought Panini would get an MLB license to compete with Topps. But instead, the pull the rug out from everyone and give it to Fanatics (didnt even know they were in the card biz). But this is sad.

I'm not trying to defend Panini, but Topps is the one that started the exclusive rights deals. It wasn't the MLB that decided to go to exclusive license. Once that snowballed, I'm not sure that either company would have agreed to go back to multiple licenses being out there.

And Fanatics hasn't been in the actual card business.

Not sure how they licenses are worded, but is there an outside chance that Fanatics could work with both Panini and Topps to make licensed products?

WillBBC · 08-19-2021, 03:55 PM

Who misses the good ol' days of 19 months ago when this great little hobby of ours wasn't a complicated mess? This one stings.

Cavaliercards · 08-19-2021, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Don't like this sign either

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Originally Posted by OscarOne

I want to not like sneaker culture. But, as an autograph guy, i struggle since...its not like we are any better. Especially autograph collectors.

I dont know. When it comes to cards i only collect Topps base sets of the Indians and Athletics, and i am worried this may be the end of that. I am bummed.

Literally one post above yours doesnt like it is the StockX guy, like I said

I get it as we enjoy all memorabilia including autographs.

We collect the Nat's sets.

fadster · 08-19-2021, 03:56 PM

Topps will be fine, they'll focus on licences for global sports like soccer and F1 which they keep expanding. I believe their single biggest selling global line is already one of those products. I know they've won the rights to more soccer tournaments too, they will take over the European championships from Panini from 2024.

Cavaliercards · 08-19-2021, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ewokpelts

Why do you think they went public?

To get their executives a parachute

kyle1707 · 08-19-2021, 03:56 PM

Imagine how much stuff blowout gets from topps

Fanatics won’t need distribution

Yikes to everyone in the hobby

OscarOne · 08-19-2021, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

Dang, sports worlds doing a big cannonball into your pool. Indians, Athletics, and Topps all ceasing to exist in the next handful of years.

I did not even...think about that.

Goddamnit. Now i am depressed.

I am going to take a nap.

teosdesserts · 08-19-2021, 03:57 PM

I could see Fanatics buying out Topps, UD, and Panini and consolidating all the rights under one roof. Access to every player with little difficulty, each established card brand as well and acquiring all the rights first lowers the purchase price for the remaining shells of each company. You could have chrome, National treasures, etc across every sport with a regular product line for each. Fanatics National Treasures, Fanatics Chrome, etc. They have no need for the infrastructures or personnel from these companies but the brands, “memorabilia” stockpiles, and exclusive player deals have tremendous value to a new brand and they understand that as well as anyone.

eye4talent · 08-19-2021, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

Talking to a lot of people in last 30
Minutes

Maybe fanatics will buy topps …. It’s the only thing that makes sense

If you lose heritage chrome ginter bowman etc and say don’t worry we will make all new

Hobby would collapse imo

This is a good point. Imagine if Topps was already gone and Panini was making their same sets—but with team logos. That’s essentially what Fanatics will be like if it doesn’t acquire the Topps branding. They’d still have buyers, but the nostalgia side of baseball cards is crucial to retaining many hobbyists.

Plus, this is what Panini did, buying Donruss. (And didn’t Upper Deck buy out Fleer at some point?) The path is slightly different, but the end result would be the same: some company acquires the intellectual property and infrastructure of an existing card manufacturer and continues to produce under the same brand name(s).

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LittleJimmies · 08-19-2021, 03:57 PM

I imagine this means Wander will be in Update now.

Cavaliercards · 08-19-2021, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggums7

Fanatics will buyout topps cheap since they have nothing to fall back on, rebrand them into the Fanatics family while keeping the name topps to use for marketing.

This would be the smart play.

Mister2Bits · 08-19-2021, 03:58 PM

When Topps goes, I go. I wont be buying any fanatics cards.

Silent George · 08-19-2021, 03:58 PM

The question now becomes Topps over the next 3-5 years. They'll have to sign individual contracts with players - which I thought they still did anyway - but the question of card quality, sets, existing stock in memorabilia and sticker autos, there's not much reason to invest in the future of their baseball lines.

If there's no sale, I can picture a very bad 5 year slow, lingering death. Fanatics can't want that as a lead in.

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tedwilliamsfan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 2,530 jimihendrixfan	Just saw this news. Still not wrapping my head around it completely. As long as I still get my 2022 Series 1 Wander Franco "RC" Logo's is how far I'm thinking ahead at this time. Weird stuff. __________________ I collect Michael Jordan, 1950's Willie Mays PSA, and Pokemon cards.

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fadster Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,275 fadster	Topps will be fine, they'll focus on licences for global sports like soccer and F1 which they keep expanding. I believe their single biggest selling global line is already one of those products. I know they've won the rights to more soccer tournaments too, they will take over the European championships from Panini from 2024. __________________ IG: @goldenballrookies

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teosdesserts Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,642 eosdesserts teosdesserts	I could see Fanatics buying out Topps, UD, and Panini and consolidating all the rights under one roof. Access to every player with little difficulty, each established card brand as well and acquiring all the rights first lowers the purchase price for the remaining shells of each company. You could have chrome, National treasures, etc across every sport with a regular product line for each. Fanatics National Treasures, Fanatics Chrome, etc. They have no need for the infrastructures or personnel from these companies but the brands, “memorabilia” stockpiles, and exclusive player deals have tremendous value to a new brand and they understand that as well as anyone. __________________ Nick Markakis super fan, former Supercollector

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Mister2Bits Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Florida Man Posts: 5,431 mistertwobits mistertwobits	When Topps goes, I go. I wont be buying any fanatics cards. __________________ Collecting: Ohtani, Judge \| Skateboarding Cards, Autographs & Decks

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SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Does this mean my '52 Mantle will be worth more?

08-19-2021, 03:53 PM	#253
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,104	They will cater to the flippers though there does need to be some buyer at the end of the chain. It will be fascinating what they do, but for all those hoping they buy all the topps brands and keep their releases, I got bad news for you. They'll play off your addiction and expect you to buy whatever they make.

08-19-2021, 03:54 PM	#257
Biggums7 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Deltona,FL Posts: 282 biggums7	Fanatics will buyout topps cheap since they have nothing to fall back on, rebrand them into the Fanatics family while keeping the name topps to use for marketing.

08-19-2021, 03:55 PM	#264
WillBBC Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,302	Who misses the good ol' days of 19 months ago when this great little hobby of ours wasn't a complicated mess? This one stings.

08-19-2021, 03:56 PM	#268
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,671	Imagine how much stuff blowout gets from topps Fanatics won’t need distribution Yikes to everyone in the hobby

08-19-2021, 03:57 PM	#272
LittleJimmies Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,557	I imagine this means Wander will be in Update now.

08-19-2021, 03:58 PM	#275
Silent George Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,147	The question now becomes Topps over the next 3-5 years. They'll have to sign individual contracts with players - which I thought they still did anyway - but the question of card quality, sets, existing stock in memorabilia and sticker autos, there's not much reason to invest in the future of their baseball lines. If there's no sale, I can picture a very bad 5 year slow, lingering death. Fanatics can't want that as a lead in.