✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[jgb1219]

Originally Posted by speedyjg13

Jose Suarez pitches tomorrow for the Halos

My bad, was thinking Cole pitching to Ohtani (not that both are pitching)

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by cardguy14

1 wasn’t enough. So I picked up 2 more today at $1075 each. I have the money, should I buy 3 more? They all came from the same sealed case.

These are starting to really dry up.

https://imgur.com/a/QoN5Rna

The Ohtani auto was a very tough pull as a SP. I would never open them in hopes to pull his auto. Loubob is the only guy worth anything noteworthy in that set other than Ohtani.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

I'll hold your hand Arthur, if you will hold mine...lot 18 is me.

You're tapping out? Boooo!!

Joking. Every journey has an end. I hope you kept a few nice ones for yourself! Congrats on such a comprehensive achievement!

[cardguy14]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

The Ohtani auto was a very tough pull as a SP. I would never open them in hopes to pull his auto. Loubob is the only guy worth anything noteworthy in that set other than Ohtani.

Not opening them. Holding every single one of them. It looks like they are drying up. To be honest, I think it is a good investment.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by cardguy14

Not opening them. Holding every single one of them. It looks like they are drying up. To be honest, I think it is a good investment.

It's Ohtani or nothing in that set. Now that I think about it the loubobs were redemptions that are now expired. If that were the case I'd rather just buy Ohtani cards. I hear you if it were 2018 update since it's like owning a well balanced index fund (Soto, Acuna, Ohtani, Bieber, etc.), but 2018 Bowman is literally just one player.

[cardguy14]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

It's Ohtani or nothing in that set. Now that I think about it the loubobs were redemptions that are now expired. If that were the case I'd rather just buy Ohtani cards. I hear you if it were 2018 update since it's like owning a well balanced index fund (Soto, Acuna, Ohtani, Bieber, etc.), but 2018 Bowman is literally just one player.

Smart. Maybe 2018 update hobby will be a smarter way to invest, in case something happens to ohtani. Update has Soto, Acuna, Ohtani and Bieber.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by cardguy14

Smart. Maybe 2018 update hobby will be a smarter way to invest, in case something happens to ohtani. Update has Soto, Acuna, Ohtani and Bieber.

Or just buy a Bowman Ohtani pitching auto. Not many cards have Mike Trout BCA-like potential. I don't care what anyone says, it's his 1st Bowman and anyone remotely close to the card industry in 2018 would agree.

[reddragonthe]

UNTIL Ohtani started to do Ohtani things, those boxes were mostly garbage. Even as things heated up in every other possible Bowman release, because of the Robert redemption, you could get these boxes CHEAP. Hunter Greene obviously looks ok now and you've got guys like Ruiz, deichmann, and A Gimenez and some others that have potential... but NOTHING close to anything supporting that box price other than chrome Robert and the Ohtani lotto ticket.

I definitely support the "keep it sealed"... For Jumbo, there are 2.4 rookie autos per Jumbo case... and even if it wasn't SP... you would have 1 Ohtani every 7 cases on average. Probably closer to 1/15 cases if I remember the estimate I built on the print run for the Ohtani specifically.

[cardguy14]

Originally Posted by reddragonthe

UNTIL Ohtani started to do Ohtani things, those boxes were mostly garbage. Even as things heated up in every other possible Bowman release, because of the Robert redemption, you could get these boxes CHEAP. Hunter Greene obviously looks ok now and you've got guys like Ruiz, deichmann, and A Gimenez and some others that have potential... but NOTHING close to anything supporting that box price other than chrome Robert and the Ohtani lotto ticket.

I definitely support the "keep it sealed"... For Jumbo, there are 2.4 rookie autos per Jumbo case... and even if it wasn't SP... you would have 1 Ohtani every 7 cases on average. Probably closer to 1/15 cases if I remember the estimate I built on the print run for the Ohtani specifically.

I’ll just keep my 3 Jumbos sealed for a long time. I’ll put my other $3,000 I’m planning to spend on some other sort of wax (not 2018 baseball).

[cardguy14]

I know it’s expired, but does Topps still give out Luis Roberts first Bowman chrome auto out of Bowman? Or do they send another card?

[Bo knows]

Any idea of the approximate value of card I posted a little bit ago to this thread?
Ohtani 2021 Luminaries Hit Kings autograph relic / 15. I am usually more of a football and basketball guy and bought a box of this on a whim.

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by reddragonthe

I definitely support the "keep it sealed"... For Jumbo, there are 2.4 rookie autos per Jumbo case... and even if it wasn't SP... you would have 1 Ohtani every 7 cases on average. Probably closer to 1/15 cases if I remember the estimate I built on the print run for the Ohtani specifically.

This is sound, logical thinking that I agree with. However, none of that plays a role in the thought-process of the unopened market ten years from now.

Look at the prices of 2009 Bowman DP & P retail boxes. You have a better chance of jumping off the top of your roof and landing on my nuts than you do of pulling a Trout Auto out of the retail boxes. Do people care? Nope. They keep dropping many, many thousands of dollars on those boxes.

Casinos aren't bulletproof moneymakers because people think rationally when it comes to the chances of them being the one that wins.

One thing we know for certain about those boxes, they'll never be cheaper (unless Ohtani gets eaten by a shark tomorrow or something).

Arthur

[speedyjg13]

Here at the game, let's go Angels!!!!

[reddragonthe]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

This is sound, logical thinking that I agree with. However, none of that plays a role in the thought-process of the unopened market ten years from now.

Look at the prices of 2009 Bowman DP & P retail boxes. You have a better chance of jumping off the top of your roof and landing on my nuts than you do of pulling a Trout Auto out of the retail boxes. Do people care? Nope. They keep dropping many, many thousands of dollars on those boxes.

Casinos aren't bulletproof moneymakers because people think rationally when it comes to the chances of them being the one that wins.

One thing we know for certain about those boxes, they'll never be cheaper (unless Ohtani gets eaten by a shark tomorrow or something).

Arthur

What do you mean? Literally all of it plays into that thinking. It's why I said I supported to keep it sealed.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

You're tapping out? Boooo!!

Joking. Every journey has an end. I hope you kept a few nice ones for yourself! Congrats on such a comprehensive achievement!

Nobody cares about what I am about to type, but here it is.

I have written this here before but not to this level of detail. This was a journey with Shohei that I started in back in December. I decided that he was my guy (he still very much is). I never intended to sell this, as I never intended/expected/desired it to be worth what it is, but that value has gone to place that I have had to reckon with.

The answer to the question of if I am tapping out is sort of, because if I don't do something like this it would be poor stewardship of a golden goose for my family.

Here are some of the prices I paid along the way, and the PSA APR is today:

Bowman $25 / $286
Bowman Chrome $51.01 / $1017.78
Bowman's Best $30.31 / $211.57
Finest $25 / $316.42

It is like this for 59 cards.

It has been the equivalent of catching lightning in a bottle.

Now add two /10 Dynasty's for less $900 each that are a PSA 9 & 10 - pop 1's. A pop 3 /25 auto for $950 and two additional POP 1 auto's /99 and unnumbered for less than $500 each.

I have always been in disbelief with people's greed in shows like Deal or No Deal. I had to play real life deal or no deal because my PC increased in value 12x-14x in six months.

..if he was 22 and just getting started, I wouldn't sell.

..if we was 32 and almost to the end of his career, I wouldn't sell.

He's 27, coming off an injury, having a season of all seasons, in a year where the current MLB contract expires.

Pretty much regardless of where it finishes, it will be more money that we will have ever had in the bank - after taxes, after tithing, after vacation savings, and after replenishing the card fund. If the estimate I got from the auction house is right, it could be the equivalent to my annual salary.

So all that said, I am trying to do the right thing and I still have the #1 Basic Set and just today bought 2018 Monty Set #1 PSA 10 and Warm Up Shirt PSA 10 as I look to re-fill my Shohei frame.

I am not planning on going anywhere cause I love this kid!

There you go!

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by cardguy14

I know it’s expired, but does Topps still give out Luis Roberts first Bowman chrome auto out of Bowman? Or do they send another card?

I doubt you will get anything. It's over a year past redemption. If it were close, I'm sure they would have pretended to care more. There is a date on the redemption for a reason, right or wrong.

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

just today bought 2018 Monty Set #1 PSA 10

Love that card because he's got a bat and a glove.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Nobody cares about what I am about to type, but here it is.



I have written this here before but not to this level of detail. This was a journey with Shohei that I started in back in December. I decided that he was my guy (he still very much is). I never intended to sell this, as I never intended/expected/desired it to be worth what it is, but that value has gone to place that I have had to reckon with.



The answer to the question of if I am tapping out is sort of, because if I don't do something like this it would be poor stewardship of a golden goose for my family.



Here are some of the prices I paid along the way, and the PSA APR is today:



Bowman $25 / $286

Bowman Chrome $51.01 / $1017.78

Bowman's Best $30.31 / $211.57

Finest $25 / $316.42



It is like this for 59 cards.



It has been the equivalent of catching lightning in a bottle.



Now add two /10 Dynasty's for less $900 each that are a PSA 9 & 10 - pop 1's. A pop 3 /25 auto for $950 and two additional POP 1 auto's /99 and unnumbered for less than $500 each.



I have always been in disbelief with people's greed in shows like Deal or No Deal. I had to play real life deal or no deal because my PC increased in value 12x-14x in six months.



..if he was 22 and just getting started, I wouldn't sell.



..if we was 32 and almost to then end of his career, I wouldn't sell.



He's 27, coming off an injury, having a season of all seasons, in a year where the current MLB contract expires.



Pretty much regardless of where it finishes, it will be more money that we will have ever had in the bank - after taxes, after tithing, after vacation savings, and after replenishing the card fund. If the estimate I got from the auction house is right, it could be the equivalent to my annual salary.



So all that said, I am trying to do the right thing and I still have the #1 Basic Set and just today bought 2018 Monty Set #1 PSA 10 and Warm Up Shirt PSA 10 as I look to re-fill my Shohei frame.



I am not planning on going anywhere cause I love this kid!



There you go!

Haha, you owe no one an explanation. I have a sea of Ohtani cards and sold a couple lakes, so I understand. Congrats to what should be a profitable journey!

PSA did you dirty with an 8 on the icons? Ugh, doenst bode well for my copies in the purgatory.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Haha, you owe no one an explanation. I have a sea of Ohtani cards and sold a couple lakes, so I understand. Congrats to what should be a profitable journey!

PSA did you dirty with an 8 on the icons? Ugh, doenst bode well for my copies in the purgatory.

Oooh yeah, that didn't turn out so good....was hoping no one would notice .

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by speedyjg13

Here at the game, let's go Angels!!!!

Save the ticket stub for #40!

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Save the ticket stub for #40!

It's super hot so HR is in the works.

I'm here with no more than 7,500 fans lol

If he hits #40 ill look for an extra ticket stub and mail to you on me!

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Nobody cares about what I am about to type, but here it is.

I have written this here before but not to this level of detail. This was a journey with Shohei that I started in back in December. I decided that he was my guy (he still very much is). I never intended to sell this, as I never intended/expected/desired it to be worth what it is, but that value has gone to place that I have had to reckon with.

The answer to the question of if I am tapping out is sort of, because if I don't do something like this it would be poor stewardship of a golden goose for my family.

Here are some of the prices I paid along the way, and the PSA APR is today:

Bowman $25 / $286
Bowman Chrome $51.01 / $1017.78
Bowman's Best $30.31 / $211.57
Finest $25 / $316.42

It is like this for 59 cards.

It has been the equivalent of catching lightning in a bottle.

Now add two /10 Dynasty's for less $900 each that are a PSA 9 & 10 - pop 1's. A pop 3 /25 auto for $950 and two additional POP 1 auto's /99 and unnumbered for less than $500 each.

I have always been in disbelief with people's greed in shows like Deal or No Deal. I had to play real life deal or no deal because my PC increased in value 12x-14x in six months.

..if he was 22 and just getting started, I wouldn't sell.

..if we was 32 and almost to the end of his career, I wouldn't sell.

He's 27, coming off an injury, having a season of all seasons, in a year where the current MLB contract expires.

Pretty much regardless of where it finishes, it will be more money that we will have ever had in the bank - after taxes, after tithing, after vacation savings, and after replenishing the card fund. If the estimate I got from the auction house is right, it could be the equivalent to my annual salary.

So all that said, I am trying to do the right thing and I still have the #1 Basic Set and just today bought 2018 Monty Set #1 PSA 10 and Warm Up Shirt PSA 10 as I look to re-fill my Shohei frame.

I am not planning on going anywhere cause I love this kid!

There you go!

The great thing about collecting is that it's unique to each individual. There's no "right" or "wrong" way to collect. You do it the way you want to do it and we all come together to share in our enjoyment.

Sounds like you made a tough decision for the right reasons and it's not even going to kill your Ohtani collection. Win-win. You'll never regret taking advantage of an opportunity that benefits your whole family. Good job by you!

Arthur

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Haha, you owe no one an explanation. I have a sea of Ohtani cards and sold a couple lakes, so I understand. Congrats to what should be a profitable journey!

PSA did you dirty with an 8 on the icons? Ugh, doenst bode well for my copies in the purgatory.

Originally Posted by HarryLime

The great thing about collecting is that it's unique to each individual. There's no "right" or "wrong" way to collect. You do it the way you want to do it and we all come together to share in our enjoyment.

Sounds like you made a tough decision for the right reasons and it's not even going to kill your Ohtani collection. Win-win. You'll never regret taking advantage of an opportunity that benefits your whole family. Good job by you!

Arthur

Appreciate your responses, now I need to find a New Era for the frame!

[Akphillips86]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Nobody cares about what I am about to type, but here it is.

I have written this here before but not to this level of detail. This was a journey with Shohei that I started in back in December. I decided that he was my guy (he still very much is). I never intended to sell this, as I never intended/expected/desired it to be worth what it is, but that value has gone to place that I have had to reckon with.

The answer to the question of if I am tapping out is sort of, because if I don't do something like this it would be poor stewardship of a golden goose for my family.

Here are some of the prices I paid along the way, and the PSA APR is today:

Bowman $25 / $286
Bowman Chrome $51.01 / $1017.78
Bowman's Best $30.31 / $211.57
Finest $25 / $316.42

It is like this for 59 cards.

It has been the equivalent of catching lightning in a bottle.

Now add two /10 Dynasty's for less $900 each that are a PSA 9 & 10 - pop 1's. A pop 3 /25 auto for $950 and two additional POP 1 auto's /99 and unnumbered for less than $500 each.

I have always been in disbelief with people's greed in shows like Deal or No Deal. I had to play real life deal or no deal because my PC increased in value 12x-14x in six months.

..if he was 22 and just getting started, I wouldn't sell.

..if we was 32 and almost to the end of his career, I wouldn't sell.

He's 27, coming off an injury, having a season of all seasons, in a year where the current MLB contract expires.

Pretty much regardless of where it finishes, it will be more money that we will have ever had in the bank - after taxes, after tithing, after vacation savings, and after replenishing the card fund. If the estimate I got from the auction house is right, it could be the equivalent to my annual salary.

So all that said, I am trying to do the right thing and I still have the #1 Basic Set and just today bought 2018 Monty Set #1 PSA 10 and Warm Up Shirt PSA 10 as I look to re-fill my Shohei frame.

I am not planning on going anywhere cause I love this kid!

There you go!

This is the way. Family first I applaud your use of logic, selflessness, and I most certainly care. It’s not giving up on your guy to sell something when the price is right. Everyone should read your post.

My journey back into the hobby was taken after an inspirational visit to Cooperstown with the purpose of building a legacy collection for my kids.

TBP among many other gracious members gave me some great advice to find my footing the Brave New World our hobby had become. I made some great picks, COVID happened, everything went sky high. The house I just purchased was in need of renovations, my wife had a teaching credential to pay for, and I had three (now four) mouths to feed. It didn’t matter what cards I had, the answer was to sell to improve life for my family, no regrets.

Now I’m in a better financial place, and I’m back to rebuilding a stash for the kids and having a ton of fun in the process.

Thanks for sharing your story. Respect.




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[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Akphillips86

This is the way. Family first I applaud your use of logic, selflessness, and I most certainly care. It’s not giving up on your guy to sell something when the price is right. Everyone should read your post.

My journey back into the hobby was taken after an inspirational visit to Cooperstown with the purpose of building a legacy collection for my kids.

TBP among many other gracious members gave me some great advice to find my footing the Brave New World our hobby had become. I made some great picks, COVID happened, everything went sky high. The house I just purchased was in need of renovations, my wife had a teaching credential to pay for, and I had three (now four) mouths to feed. It didn’t matter what cards I had, the answer was to sell to improve life for my family, no regrets.

Now I’m in a better financial place, and I’m back to rebuilding a stash for the kids and having a ton of fun in the process.

Thanks for sharing your story. Respect.




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Yessir, this is the way.