✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[Tim]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I'll be the first to admit that the Heritage Low ROA is a superior card to the Heritage High ROA, head to head. There is however a wrinkle in the comps, as many H-Low ROAs were redemptions, thus having a decent gem rate. All of the H-High ROAs were packed and the production/packing condition was rough - especially centering and edges. The H-High ROA PSA 10 is population 5.

I'm going to challenge this as I broke a ton of 18 low H and was obsessing over Ohtani. I was lucky enough to pull 3 autos and monitored listings and sales from the get-go and saw 0 redemptions. Even IF there was one or two, it sure wasn't "many." If you know something I don't, please share.

[akarlen]

Originally Posted by Tim

I'm going to challenge this as I broke a ton of 18 low H and was obsessing over Ohtani. I was lucky enough to pull 3 autos and monitored listings and sales from the get-go and saw 0 redemptions. Even IF there was one or two, it sure wasn't "many." If you know something I don't, please share.

I seem to remember that for the 2018 low series, the Hobby autographs were live and the retail ones were redemptions. This was frustrating because both Acuna and Soto were also redemptions in High that year. My memory may be way off!

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by al3xmac10

pcptrade,

did you receive the $190K payment for your Ohtani Super ebay sale?
if so, CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Thanks. The buyer is the CEO of a company. He started collecting (investing in) sports cards only recently. His first high end purchase was a Jordan Fleer BGS 9.5 last week. This is his 2nd high end purchase. Payment will me made today via bank transfer. I will let you know once I get paid.

EDIT: He understands the downside risk and is willing to take the risk.

[Raleigh504]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Thanks. The buyer is the CEO of a company. He started collecting (investing in) sports cards only recently. His first high end purchase was a Jordan Fleer BGS 9.5 last week. This is his 2nd high end purchase. Payment will me made today via bank transfer. I will let you know once I get paid.

Congrats! That is very awesome

Did you pull this yourself? That is definitely a dream to pull a RC Super

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by Tim

I'm going to challenge this as I broke a ton of 18 low H and was obsessing over Ohtani. I was lucky enough to pull 3 autos and monitored listings and sales from the get-go and saw 0 redemptions. Even IF there was one or two, it sure wasn't "many." If you know something I don't, please share.

I bought two redemptions and saw a handful more, so surely it wasn't that unusual.

Originally Posted by akarlen

I seem to remember that for the 2018 low series, the Hobby autographs were live and the retail ones were redemptions. This was frustrating because both Acuna and Soto were also redemptions in High that year. My memory may be way off!

I can't 100% confirm, but this does ring a familiar bell. I did not pull any myself but sounds about right.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Thanks. The buyer is the CEO of a company. He started collecting (investing in) sports cards only recently. His first high end purchase was a Jordan Fleer BGS 9.5 last week. This is his 2nd high end purchase. Payment will me made today via bank transfer. I will let you know once I get paid.

Congrats! I wish I still had my sapphire super, but the proceeds went to make another appreciated purchase (not as much as the super), so I can't complain. Holding onto the red? I think we each have one.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Thanks. The buyer is the CEO of a company

Buy The Peak LLC

[seanrs1]

Arthur was this purchased by you? And if not do you think it went for a fair price?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12473386307...p2047675.l2557

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Buy The Peak LLC

He understands the downside risk and is willing to take the risk. He likes the upside potential given Ohtani's talent and potential.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

He understands the downside risk and is willing to take the risk. He likes the upside potential given Ohtani's talent and potential.

Subsidiary of Dutch Tulip Trading Co.

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by Raleigh504

Congrats! That is very awesome

Did you pull this yourself? That is definitely a dream to pull a RC Super

Thanks. I bought it graded for $3500 in 2019

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Congrats! I wish I still had my sapphire super, but the proceeds went to make another appreciated purchase (not as much as the super), so I can't complain. Holding onto the red? I think we each have one.

Thanks! Yes, I still have the sapphire red and holding on to it.. I decided to list the TC Super yesterday after seeing the TC Batting super sale for 90K. I wanted to see what kind of offers I received and it sold within a day. I still have the Transcendent Superfractor Auto and will likely hold on to it unless I get a an offer like this

[SaltyCracker]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Thanks. I bought it graded for $3500 in 2019

Congrats!!

[Tim]

Originally Posted by akarlen

I seem to remember that for the 2018 low series, the Hobby autographs were live and the retail ones were redemptions. This was frustrating because both Acuna and Soto were also redemptions in High that year. My memory may be way off!

This makes sense, thank you!

[Rage]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Thanks. I bought it graded for $3500 in 2019

Job well done!!!

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Thanks. I bought it graded for $3500 in 2019

Mother of god -- what a return on investment.

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Thanks. The buyer is the CEO of a company. He started collecting (investing in) sports cards only recently. His first high end purchase was a Jordan Fleer BGS 9.5 last week. This is his 2nd high end purchase. Payment will me made today via bank transfer. I will let you know once I get paid.

EDIT: He understands the downside risk and is willing to take the risk.

Keggah at pcp's house!

Congratulations, sir. I'm curious, might some of that profit end up residing in a vintage card?

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Arthur was this purchased by you? And if not do you think it went for a fair price?

Wasn't me. I mean, tough to argue with Blue /150s these days. I bought a blue I think a week ago but if I hadn't I wouldn't have had a problem spending $100 on one.

They're so nice looking in-hand. So weird that the least-rare tier ends up being the most sought-after.

Arthur

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Mother of god -- what a return on investment.

Originally Posted by Rage

Job well done!!!

Originally Posted by HarryLime

Keggah at pcp's house!

Congratulations, sir. I'm curious, might some of that profit end up residing in a vintage card?

Arthur

Thanks everyone. Funds will likely be used to purchase a high end modern card.

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

Keggah at pcp's house!

Congratulations, sir. I'm curious, might some of that profit end up residing in a vintage card?



Wasn't me. I mean, tough to argue with Blue /150s these days. I bought a blue I think a week ago but if I hadn't I wouldn't have had a problem spending $100 on one.

They're so nice looking in-hand. So weird that the least-rare tier ends up being the most sought-after.

Arthur

Would you really choose a class 1 blue /150 over a class 3 blue /50? And what about the class 1 black vs a class 3 black. The class 3 black is way more rare (and still has a picture of him running and pitching).

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Would you really choose a class 1 blue /150 over a class 3 blue /50? And what about the class 1 black vs a class 3 black. The class 3 black is way more rare (and still has a picture of him running and pitching).

I would, I may be in the minority though.

First, I'm buying a Gold Label in 2021 because after a long, very interesting and very educational conversation in this thread it was brought to my attention that the 2018 Class 1 is one of the few RCs of Ohtani that depict him hitting (most importantly of all) and pitching. If that wasn't pointed out to me, I would never have been in the market for a 2018 Gold Label (which, as an aside, might be a big mistake as they seem to be dirt cheap Ohtani RCs, but that's a whole other discussion).

So I'm buying the Class 1 because I like it, not because it is the rarest of the group. If I wanted to buy a /50 Ohtani RC or lower I wouldn't be shopping Gold Labels. The baserunning/pitching of the Class 3 doesn't do much for me and I really, really like the swing follow-through of the Class 1.

And lastly, a Class 3 Blue with its /50 serial number would probably get all bonered up by the seller because it's serial-numbered to /50 and they'd be looking to get 11teen30thousand dollars for it. Forget it. I just like to collect what I like and I like the Class 1. But if you dig the Class 3 then collect the hell out of those. That's what makes this hobby great. It would suck if we all collected the exact same way.

Arthur

[caflisch78]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Thanks everyone. Funds will likely be used to purchase a high end modern card.

Jesus, congrats. Rich get richer!

lmk if you want to overpay for high end Trout

[tconte]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Thanks everyone. Funds will likely be used to purchase a high end modern card.

I like the party idea instead!
I would come! lol

Congrats on the sale!

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

I would, I may be in the minority though.

First, I'm buying a Gold Label in 2021 because after a long, very interesting and very educational conversation in this thread it was brought to my attention that the 2018 Class 1 is one of the few RCs of Ohtani that depict him hitting (most importantly of all) and pitching. If that wasn't pointed out to me, I would never have been in the market for a 2018 Gold Label (which, as an aside, might be a big mistake as they seem to be dirt cheap Ohtani RCs, but that's a whole other discussion).

So I'm buying the Class 1 because I like it, not because it is the rarest of the group. If I wanted to buy a /50 Ohtani RC or lower I wouldn't be shopping Gold Labels. The baserunning/pitching of the Class 3 doesn't do much for me and I really, really like the swing follow-through of the Class 1.

And lastly, a Class 3 Blue with its /50 serial number would probably get all bonered up by the seller because it's serial-numbered to /50 and they'd be looking to get 11teen30thousand dollars for it. Forget it. I just like to collect what I like and I like the Class 1. But if you dig the Class 3 then collect the hell out of those. That's what makes this hobby great. It would suck if we all collected the exact same way.

Arthur

I actually like gold label in general and I like the black parallels in general. I feel like they are underrated cards but not overly popular. When I get mine in hand I will show them off in the thread (assuming they get to me!). I am just trying to learn as much as I can about what makes one card more popular/collectable than another. Since I don't open any product and mainly buy singles/lots I have way less of a feel than most people. I really wish Topps would make it easy on me/us and provide print runs for all of their products!

[Mister2Bits]

Stadium Club /5 for $20. Yes please!

[pcptrade]

Card has been paid via bank transfer

Originally Posted by caflisch78

Jesus, congrats. Rich get richer!

lmk if you want to overpay for high end Trout

Thanks. I have few Trout cards that I might end up moving myself

Originally Posted by tconte

I like the party idea instead!
I would come! lol

Congrats on the sale!

Thank you.

[okumeister]

That sale is awesome.
Really proves how much of a premium 1/1 can have.
Congrats PCP.