One of the biggest trades @ Dallas Card Show

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

My bad, I misunderstood.

I agree with you though. When prices drop significantly, panic spreads and previously liquid items can become significantly harder to move (because no one wants to catch a falling knife).

I also agree with you in that a lot of cards seem undervalued when compared to the aforementioned things. Or some things are incredibly overvalued haha. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

If he truly started with 15k, this should be easy to avoid. It's like playing Blackjack with $100 and getting up to 1k. You pull $500 off the table to ensure a 400% profit and whatever happens next doesn't matter. The difference with cards is that everything will sell at auction. Liquidity is easy in cards when you run a 5-7 day auction and let the market do what it does. If it's all house money then you profit big no matter what.

[bloodwings19]

Originally Posted by Absknicks

I have nothing against him and actually watched some of his early videos before he was "big"... have to say I am kinda perplexed at how he's become so popular, though. He doesn't have much charisma and his knowledge of the hobby is poor compared to many other Youtubers... he must be doing something right though to have amassed such a following.

In 5 years, I doubt he will continue to do cards. Most likely doing something else to hustle money unless he gets a million subs. I could see him flipping houses which my cousin do and ......

[Greek]

Originally Posted by Thirsty Whale

I partly agree with this. He seems a good guy and he definitely has some talent on flipping, but 15K to a close to a million dollar inventory wouldn't have happened without the market surge and it has nothing to do with how good he is at it. I agree that anyone can do it if you have zero emotional attachment to your cards. 15K could got you 300 base prizm PSA 10 Lukas which would be worth about 420K today, but a few months ago it was even at 600K.

You can make some extra margin by trading up like the guy who started with a paper clip and got a house, but I'm pretty sure that most of his profits come from the market surge and the increasing card values.

I think the only thing you need in order to reproduce what Sasha did is getting rid of any emotional attachment to your cards/collection and make sure you always have a price for your cards, even for those which you've acquired 2 hours ago (unless you really believe in the long term potential of the card, but it's also a business mentality). I was always struggling with this and even if someone offers me a very good price for my card, many times I just can't let it go because of the emotional attachment. Absolutely no disrespect for Sasha, all I wanted to say that it isn't rocket science and everyone can do it, all you need is to get rid of the collector mindset.

He also has/had the Cardhops discord where he was making money off paid memberships every month where him and his mods told members what cards to invest in after they had already got in which pumped many of their card holdings. Not sure if he still owns the discord group or not, but that played a role which got him to where he is today.

[TSonn]

Just watched the deal on his YT channel...

Did he also get a Trout out of the deal? In the vid there's a photo of him holding the zard + trout and the other dude holding the brons and kobe.

[RandyC]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

This is exactly right. We chased the Japanese stuff since it was the real “first edition” of Pokémon and much rarer. Charizard wasn’t even good in the game, Blastoise was the one we chased after actually. Nobody ever built a fire based deck. Not really sure how or why Charizard became the one to chase after. Logically speaking, should probably be pikachu. Charizard never even listened to Ash in the show, Charizard was only around once to bodyslam Magmar from space lol

In hindsight, somebody mentioned that Charizard is 400k? Am I crazy or are the 3 bball cards only worth around 150k and I feel like that’s generous? So basically, the guy giving up Charizard gave up 150k in value even accounting for the cash (400k Charizard vs 250k bball plus cash)? That’s basically a fleecing he took by Sasha. Should’ve sent the charizard to goldin himself

Yeah, Sasha got $145k value for a $60K card...unreal.

[MyckKabongo]

Originally Posted by Greek

He also has/had the Cardhops discord where he was making money off paid memberships every month where him and his mods told members what cards to invest in after they had already got in which pumped many of their card holdings. Not sure if he still owns the discord group or not, but that played a role which got him to where he is today.

Does anyone have screenshots of this?

[CaliCollector87]

25k lebron
75k kobe
125k lebron xfractor
100k cash

325k-total

500k charizard
30k Trout

530k Total

Is this what happened? If so dude is really good at negotiating.

[yaoming]

Originally Posted by Greek

He also has/had the Cardhops discord where he was making money off paid memberships every month where him and his mods told members what cards to invest in after they had already got in which pumped many of their card holdings. Not sure if he still owns the discord group or not, but that played a role which got him to where he is today.

Sasha did this?


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[Greek]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

Does anyone have screenshots of this?

Originally Posted by yaoming

Sasha did this?



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His instagram says founder of Cardhops. Cardhops is a paid discord group, just look at the twitter page tweets.

Search cardhops on BO forum and you'll see posts about cardhops.
Here is an example. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...light=cardhops

[sebreg]

Originally Posted by Greek

His instagram says founder of Cardhops. Cardhops is a paid discord group, just look at the twitter page tweets.

Search cardhops on BO forum and you'll see posts about cardhops.
Here is an example. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...light=cardhops

So it looks like it changed to paid service possibly after Sasha left? Curious to learn more on that and his level of involvement.

[eastbayak]

Damn, I hope it’s not as bad as it sounds.

[Thirsty Whale]

Originally Posted by RandyC

Yeah, Sasha got $145k value for a $60K card...unreal.

https://youtu.be/iMR2Fgm6gG4

During the first minute of this video he talks about that he gives fair and good deals to everyone, because that’s how you can sustain your brand and business long term. I’m not a Sasha hater, but that Kobe for 145K was literally a robbery.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Thirsty Whale

https://youtu.be/iMR2Fgm6gG4

During the first minute of this video he talks about that he gives fair and good deals to everyone, because that’s how you can sustain your brand and business long term. I’m not a Sasha hater, but that Kobe for 145K was literally a robbery.

That couple hanging out at Targets for hours just to flip.

Eff off you people. But the market is hot. Not much you can do.

Sasha has good stuff, but I'm not gonna say he's any different to the others out there. When the money drops out they'll move on to whatever else..

Unfortunately I just don't see this ever changing. New Superstars in the League, new Rookies to pump.

Would take a proper recession. Or a boom in other markets.

[rippev]

Originally Posted by Thirsty Whale

https://youtu.be/iMR2Fgm6gG4

During the first minute of this video he talks about that he gives fair and good deals to everyone, because that’s how you can sustain your brand and business long term. I’m not a Sasha hater, but that Kobe for 145K was literally a robbery.

Yea, everything about this guys is super sleazy.

[Thirsty Whale]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

That couple hanging out at Targets for hours just to flip.

Eff off you people. But the market is hot. Not much you can do.

Sasha has good stuff, but I'm not gonna say he's any different to the others out there. When the money drops out they'll move on to whatever else..

Unfortunately I just don't see this ever changing. New Superstars in the League, new Rookies to pump.

Would take a proper recession. Or a boom in other markets.

It’s different from retail flippers. This is serious money here. That 165K price tag (that was the original price tag I guess) is the exact thing what he is talking about in the first 30 seconds. Imagine a rich, absolutely non card guy visiting the show because he’s seen on CNBC that sports cards still exist and there is a show on the weekend in his city. He is back for childhood nostalgia and he is about to buy his first card. He sees that Kobe, he likes it and negotiates from 165K to 145K. He’ll be super happy because he got a deal and 2 days later he finds out that he paid 145K for a 70-75K card. How would you feel if you were in his shoes? Would you make another deal with a seller who has done this with you? There is a good chance that this would be his first and last purchase at the same time and probably he would be done with the hobby for the next 30 years.

I know that these card shows has a lot of overpriced stuff, but putting a 165K price tag on a 75K card is different from putting a $1,750 price tag on a Luka that sells for $1,400. We are talking about almost 100K difference which is serious money. I’m not sorry for the guy with the Zard though, because he should have known what he is doing, so it’s his own fault. But I would be sorry for someone, who doesn’t know anything about sports cards, just visits the show, finds Sasha’s table and buys the card without questioning the price.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Thirsty Whale

It’s different from retail flippers. This is serious money here. That 165K price tag (that was the original price tag I guess) is the exact thing what he is talking about in the first 30 seconds. Imagine a rich, absolutely non card guy visiting the show because he’s seen on CNBC that sports cards still exist and there is a show on the weekend in his city. He is back for childhood nostalgia and he is about to buy his first card. He sees that Kobe, he likes it and negotiates from 165K to 145K. He’ll be super happy because he got a deal and 2 days later he finds out that he paid 145K for a 70-75K card. How would you feel if you were in his shoes? Would you make another deal with a seller who has done this with you? There is a good chance that this would be his first and last purchase at the same time and probably he would be done with the hobby for the next 30 years.

I know that these card shows has a lot of overpriced stuff, but putting a 165K price tag on a 75K card is different from putting a $1,750 price tag on a Luka that sells for $1,400. We are talking about almost 100K difference which is serious money. I’m not sorry for the guy with the Zard though, because he should have known what he is doing, so it’s his own fault. But I would be sorry for someone, who doesn’t know anything about sports cards, just visits the show, finds Sasha’s table and buys the card without questioning the price.

Ummm of course it's different from Retail flippers. I watched the video and was commenting on separate things..

Sasha actually had the card valued at $250k if it's the Kobe Ref..

All well in good for you to believe in a card, but he's also pumping constantly and trying to convince people of upside.

Sort of used car salesmanish at times.

Again, I like him and it's great to see the content. But man, I just could not constantly push the envelope like some of these guys do.

[sebreg]

See I don't know much on exquisite but 145k valuation seemed fantastical. Not sure how someone on the other end of 400k deal doesn't examine that price framework more closely. The valuation seemed extraordinary, then again the two cards I knew the least about were the charizard and the kobe so figured I was just missing something.

[Thirsty Whale]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Ummm of course it's different from Retail flippers. I watched the video and was commenting on separate things..

Sasha actually had the card valued at $250k if it's the Kobe Ref..

All well in good for you to believe in a card, but he's also pumping constantly and trying to convince people of upside.

Sort of used car salesmanish at times.

Again, I like him and it's great to see the content. But man, I just could not constantly push the envelope like some of these guys do.

It’s not only about the Kobe Ref. I was taking about the Exquisite patch auto, which was valued at 145K in the deal (it was negotiated to 145K from 165K). It’s a 75K card at best.

[Ericc5Bears]

Yeah I like Sasha but it is super hypocritical of him to give a whole lecture about being honest and giving people good deals then turning around and putting a 250k pricetag on a Kobe refractor that closed at 82k on Goldin last night (yes his is barely greened, but still, that's probably a 125k card max.

[ninjacookies]

Yung Don West with a clean fade.


To take a page out of Jay's greatest LP,



You can't knock the hustle.

[Bruin7]

I personally would have waited for a better centered Charizard. The left to right is quite noticeable.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Thirsty Whale

It’s not only about the Kobe Ref. I was taking about the Exquisite patch auto, which was valued at 145K in the deal (it was negotiated to 145K from 165K). It’s a 75K card at best.

Ah yes of course. The Exquisite Auto.

At the end of the day it was a Pop 1 right?

That does have tremendous upside. All of 03 Exquisite is underpriced considering what people are paying for gifs and some of the other stuff out there.

But yeah, you can't just fast track those prices.

Same as his belief that the Charizard is gonna be a million in a year. Maybe it will, but maybe it won't..

[Thirsty Whale]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Ah yes of course. The Exquisite Auto.

At the end of the day it was a Pop 1 right?

That does have tremendous upside. All of 03 Exquisite is underpriced considering what people are paying for gifs and some of the other stuff out there.

But yeah, you can't just fast track those prices.

Same as his belief that the Charizard is gonna be a million in a year. Maybe it will, but maybe it won't..

There’s only one problem with the Exquisite: the time machine wasn’t included in the deal.

[dbpsooner]

I have to admit, I am completely ignorant when it comes to Pokemon. Is there a good thread here that discussed some of the appeal. Sports cards I get because they are tied to people that are idolized based on being the best at something so many people love.

Should I be going through my parent's basement looking for an old maid card or maybe a draw 4 from an old deck of UNO to send in for grading?

[inflames1919]

Sasha T seems like a genuine dude but the amount of people on ig and youtube sucking up his ass is maximum cringe


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