The Official NBA Regular Season Thread—-20/21 Edition

[daeve]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Good lord the Denver bench is atrocious.

Because they're still missing Harris, Milsap, Green, and Dozier. Half their rotation is and has been out.

Morris and Barton are 1-11. They should be bench players, and they'd be doing much better vs bench units. Cancar and Nnaji aren't really rotation players at this time, though Nnaji does show flashes.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by PKIPP

They could make it where a team will play every other team three times besides one division’s 5 teams, who they’d play twice each. And that division would rotate every year.


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i think it's fine the way it is. east just has power teams that are just feasting on the weak teams. plus you're adding more travel for western teams that travel a lot as it is. Player's Association would not go for it.

[Dame]

Man, I know it's such a cliche but Zion is really bullying people down low lol.

I hope he really works on his jumper though. Teams are giving him wide open mid range all night. 20 year old, he got nothing but time.

[cboog3105]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Golly Gee... all I have is some worthless 2018 FOTL sealed wax that has nothing to do with Luka




And it's a real shame that I only got $22k bids for a card that had no promotion behind it.... I live a tough life.


Or maybe I'm just a Simmons fans and am pretty happy at how he's playing. (even though the value of my Simmons collection is only a fraction of Giannis/Luka)

this post reeks of insecurity, ngl fam

[brothertona]

I would trade anyone not named Trae/De'Andre for Ben Simmons in a heartbeat. He's so good.

Originally Posted by Donkaylove

simmons doesnt get the love anymore, cuz he isnt a scorer--shame. Blazers /myself need,want, and obsess about a guy like that with dame. Glorious.....

[PKIPP]

That Wizards vs Nuggets game was fun.

Wizards really starting to gel. The ball movement in a few of their possessions was beautiful.


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[tjforce]

Originally Posted by cboog3105

this post reeks of insecurity, ngl fam

Ehhh.. if that's how you feel about it.


The guy took a personal shot at me because I critiqued 1 game from Luka, and incorrectly assumed I have nothing of the guy.

I'm actually pretty high on Luka long term. He does some amazing stuff that only a few guys in the league can do. But I'm allowed to critique his game the same way I critique Simmons' game when he decides to check out on offense and take less than 10 shots.

Funny, nobody ever calls me out when I critique Simmons, but doing so with Luka gets a personal attack sent my way.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by PKIPP

That Wizards vs Nuggets game was fun.

Wizards really starting to gel. The ball movement in a few of their possessions was beautiful.


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It's like 2 vs 5 for Denver.

Looking back, losing Jerami Grant seems like such a bigger deal than I had realized.

[brothertona]

MPJ with another bone-headed move. I'm sorry, I know there are a lot of you that are high on MPJ but if there was a team that thought he could be a savior/franchise piece and would give me high value assets I'd move him in a heartbeat.

https://twitter.com/fastbreakbreak/s...528312833?s=20

[daeve]

Originally Posted by PKIPP

That Wizards vs Nuggets game was fun.

Wizards really starting to gel. The ball movement in a few of their possessions was beautiful.


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Was pretty frustrating watching all the bad mental mistakes for the Nuggets lol. Murray hoisting up a bad shot choice and then having a 3-v-1 fastbreak with seconds left but then pulling back and heaving an awful pass to Campazzo was just

At least Malone benched Barton down the stretch, that was the 1 bright spot.

[PKIPP]

Originally Posted by tjforce

It's like 2 vs 5 for Denver.

Looking back, losing Jerami Grant seems like such a bigger deal than I had realized.

Yup. Even losing Plumlee hurts them a little bit (not to same extent as Grant, obviously).

Obviously Grant wouldn’t be putting up the same kind of numbers as he is in Detroit, but I’d imagine he’d be giving them a solid 18ish ppg.

However maybe not.. I’m thinking part of the reason he wanted out was knowing the coach probably never had plans of giving him priority over Murray or MPJ, and that could’ve been a deciding factor for his exit.


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[daeve]

Originally Posted by tjforce

It's like 2 vs 5 for Denver.

Looking back, losing Jerami Grant seems like such a bigger deal than I had realized.

Eh, it's way moreso that most of their competent defenders are all out hurt. Harris is vital, and Dozier is his backup/complement who takes on the toughest assignments when Harris is out. Milsap isn't amazing anymore but he often gets the job done and is quite a smart team / offball defender. Green is also pretty good on that end. MPJ has so many mental lapses on d, and Barton just makes my brain hurt.

[PKIPP]

Originally Posted by daeve

Was pretty frustrating watching all the bad mental mistakes for the Nuggets lol. Murray hoisting up a bad shot choice and then having a 3-v-1 fastbreak with seconds left but then pulling back and heaving an awful pass to Campazzo was just

At least Malone benched Barton down the stretch, that was the 1 bright spot.

I thought the Wizards were going to choke after the Westbrook turnover that led to a backcourt violation. They’re just playing very well right now. I think some ppl just assumed the way they started the season was going to be an indicator of their entire season. Happy to see Russ adjusting to this team.


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[Braswell10]

I just wanna know, how is Hartenstein getting minutes over Bol Bol?? Every time Bol Bol plays, he looks pretty good. I don’t understand why he doesn’t get any minutes.

[brothertona]

As a Hawks fan it's nice seeing other teams blow it as bad as we've done occasionally this season.
https://twitter.com/kevinoconnornba/...839117826?s=21


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[tjforce]

Originally Posted by PKIPP

Yup. Even losing Plumlee hurts them a little bit (not to same extent as Grant, obviously).

Obviously Grant wouldn’t be putting up the same kind of numbers as he is in Detroit, but I’d imagine he’d be giving them a solid 18ish ppg.

However maybe not.. I’m thinking part of the reason he wanted out was knowing the coach probably never had plans of giving him priority over Murray or MPJ, and that could’ve been a deciding factor for his exit.


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Originally Posted by daeve

Eh, it's way moreso that most of their competent defenders are all out hurt. Harris is vital, and Dozier is his backup/complement who takes on the toughest assignments when Harris is out. Milsap isn't amazing anymore but he often gets the job done and is quite a smart team / offball defender. Green is also pretty good on that end. MPJ has so many mental lapses on d, and Barton just makes my brain hurt.

It seems like all of the above. You are both right.

The guys they having coming off the bench are ver low level.

You guys know im not always that high on Jokic, but i cant say anything bad about him. Hes been doing so much this year just to keep these guys afloat. Where i think not having Grant hurts is that Jerami was able to spread the floor on offense and be a decent rim protector on D. MPJ doenst give you as much of either.

But ya know, these guys arent getting blown out of the water. They seem to be dropping a lot of close games due to lack of overall team talent. Get a few guys back in the lineup and some of those games become wins

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by codered

Sure we have had a slow start this year but

Raptors vs. The west The last 4 years
2016-17 - 17-13
2017-18 - 19-11
2018-19 - 22-8 (plus 4-2 in the finals)
2019-20 - 19-8

Looks like we are feast on the west too. Not bad for some scrubs. Don’t know why you’re so bitter

I mean you really bringing up a 56% win rate in 16/17? Lol.

The rest of the seasons doesn't even get you a home Playoff seed first round if you were in the West. These are also your peak seasons never to be repeated. 18/19 I loved that team but you were stacked.

Funny. I also believe the Raps were better than the rest of the East were vs the West. Nice try though.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by PKIPP

They could make it where a team will play every other team three times besides one division’s 5 teams, who they’d play twice each. And that division would rotate every year.


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You could just play every team 3 times except the 5 furthest teams away.

Then take top 16.

That would be amazing. We'd most likely get a better chance to see classic match ups like Lakers vs Celtics.

I've seen far too many incredible West teams drop out too early due to facing contender after contender.

The East folks don't really get how tough the West used to be. Especially in the Kobe/Dirk/Duncan era

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by brothertona

MPJ with another bone-headed move. I'm sorry, I know there are a lot of you that are high on MPJ but if there was a team that thought he could be a savior/franchise piece and would give me high value assets I'd move him in a heartbeat.

https://twitter.com/fastbreakbreak/s...528312833?s=20

Murray too though. He should have continued driving there. Was watching the game live on the Nuggets feed and couldn't believe he just pulled up. His own announcers were all over him. Almost felt like he didn't realize they were only down 2..

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Hope anybody who doubts Ben Simmons as and all-star just watched that game (or the first 3 quarters they actually played the starter anyways).

Simmons LOCKED DOWN Luka. 19, 3 and 4 for Donic, with 7 turnovers. All 3 of his three's were over other defenders. He did put one up against Ben towards the end of the 3rd quarter..... Airball.

Again, I will say this til I'm blue in the face. Is Simmons a great player? yes. Does he deserve to be praised for how good he is? Yes. Should defense be something we care about in a game where the final score will be 170-165 and is pretty much a glorified street ball game until the 4th quarter or whenever it matters now with the new format? No

Give me Trae over a guy like Simmons/Jaylen Brown (assuming they have comparable numbers) all day everyday for an all star game.

[rustywest]

Originally Posted by Grizzkid12

Murray too though. He should have continued driving there. Was watching the game live on the Nuggets feed and couldn't believe he just pulled up. His own announcers were all over him. Almost felt like he didn't realize they were only down 2..

You really can't criticize Jamal Murray for the Denver L. He was shooting lights out in the 2nd half not even hitting rim and pretty much the sole reason they kept with the Wiz and had the chance to win...

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by Grizzkid12

Again, I will say this til I'm blue in the face. Is Simmons a great player? yes. Does he deserve to be praised for how good he is? Yes. Should defense be something we care about in a game where the final score will be 170-165 and is pretty much a glorified street ball game until the 4th quarter or whenever it matters now with the new format? No

Give me Trae over a guy like Simmons/Jaylen Brown (assuming they have comparable numbers) all day everyday for an all star game.

This is where there needs to be some kind of identity. Is the All-Star game meant to be for the most entertaining players, or the ones playing the best?

If you use it towards HOF ratings, then hell yes you want players like Simmons who are all-round great players being chosen. But if it's just for entertainment then yeah you probably want Trae in there instead.

To me, it should be a reward for top players, that's why I'm slightly bemused the likes of Brown made it.

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by rustywest

You really can't criticize Jamal Murray for the Denver L. He was shooting lights out in the 2nd half not even hitting rim and pretty much the sole reason they kept with the Wiz and had the chance to win...

100%. Murray got them there, but just saying that last possession shouldn't all be on MPJ.

I didn't even notice what MPJ did while live. Just found it weird that Murray stopped on a dime there instead of going to the bucket.

I haven't read/heard anything but I'd bet when asked Murray will say he made a mistake there

[codered]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

I mean you really bringing up a 56% win rate in 16/17? Lol.

The rest of the seasons doesn't even get you a home Playoff seed first round if you were in the West.These are also your peak seasons never to be repeated. 18/19 I loved that team but you were stacked.

Funny. I also believe the Raps were better than the rest of the East were vs the West. Nice try though.

Actually those winning percentages would be 3rd, 1st and 2nd in the west respectively in those seasons. Last time I checked that was good enough to get home court in the first round. Not bad for some scrubs. I feel like you spout off and don’t even check your facts. All good though

[rustywest]

Originally Posted by Grizzkid12

100%. Murray got them there, but just saying that last possession shouldn't all be on MPJ.

I didn't even notice what MPJ did while live. Just found it weird that Murray stopped on a dime there instead of going to the bucket.

I haven't read/heard anything but I'd bet when asked Murray will say he made a mistake there

Here is what they did...



PS. Apologies, hadn't seen this has pretty much already been posted.