The Unofficial 2020-21 European Football Leagues Discussion Thread

[fadster]

PL footballers continue to be idiots, we now know there were parties with Lamela, Lo Celso, Lanzini and Regulion, and another with Mitrovic and Milivojevic in addition to Gabriel's birthday one and Kyle Walker's. All have led to more positive results and we have another game off this weekend; Burnley v Fulham. They've got to start coming down harder on teams and players causing outbreaks by breaking restrictions, if that requires suspensions and forfeits so be it.

[JVB]

"All have led to more positive results?" That's news, considering Reguilon was on the bench.

[fadster]

Originally Posted by JVB

"All have led to more positive results?" That's news, considering Reguilon was on the bench.

Sorry, I meant each party has. Lamela and Lo Celso tested positive (according to a few sources eg https://twitter.com/OptusSport/statu...32911554215936 and https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2021/01...ovid-19-rules/) and left out of the squad completely, although Lo Celso is injured anyway. I assume Regulion has passed their protocols and from the club statement it sounds like his benching is part of the punishment as he would have started:

""We're extremely disappointed and strongly condemn this image showing some of our players with family and friends together at Xmas particularly as we know the sacrifices everybody around the country made to stay safe over the festive period. The rules are clear, there are no exceptions, and we regularly remind all our players and staff about the latest protocols and their responsibilities to adhere and set an example. The matter will be dealt with internally."

I might be wrong about the Mitrovic and Milivojevic gathering however, as it's not been confirmed if Mitrovic is one of the Fulham players affected but you'd expect him to be punished either way as Fulham are riddled with it. Milivojevic already tested positive a couple of months back so might get away without any punishment.

[JVB]

Duncan Castles posted the tweet on Lamela and Lo Celso, and it has since been deleted. I believe the general consensus is that someone fed him some bs and he ran with it. If Coco and GLC tested positive, they wouldn't be the only ones isolating.

[JVB]

Anyways, I agree with your overall point that there need to be more harsh punishments. That sounds ridiculous coming out of my mouth knowing the potential long-term cardiovascular implications that have been linked to the virus, but I suppose that's where we are now. You'd assume the health risks would serve as enough of a deterrent.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by JVB

Duncan Castles posted the tweet on Lamela and Lo Celso, and it has since been deleted. I believe the general consensus is that someone fed him some bs and he ran with it. If Coco and GLC tested positive, they wouldn't be the only ones isolating.

Duncan Castles is known for posting garbage. He nearly quit twitter a few years ago and had a meltdown after posting up countless "ITK" garbage about Leeds. Welched out of a bet he took with a fan too which would have benefited charity.

[YayNJ]

Lampard well and truly found out now. Lovely stuff.

Every team below them down to 12th on better runs of form. That's what happens when you spend half a billion on individuals and not a team.

*rubs hands*



Please Roman, please... just another £350 million

[anusinha]

Only a matter of time before he is shown the door

[Mitch]

Mitrovic's antics didn't directly result in the cancellation of the game - he tested negative, however there's been too many reports of PL players not being able to quite manage what should seem so simple.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Only a matter of time before he is shown the door

I hope not, watching them slide down the league is great.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Only a matter of time before he is shown the door

He should never have been appointed in the first place...only had one year of managing experience, in the Championship at that.

If he hadn't been a Chelsea star and fan favorite, he never would have been considered.

Star players rarely make good managers, because they can't relate to the less talented players in their squad.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by mfw13

He should never have been appointed in the first place...only had one year of managing experience, in the Championship at that.

If he hadn't been a Chelsea star and fan favorite, he never would have been considered.

Star players rarely make good managers, because they can't relate to the less talented players in their squad.

It's not about relating, 90% of Chelsea's squad are star players. Lampard was a brilliant player, but he wasn't an enigma that operated on the field using 4D chess like Zidane or Messi.

The problem comes with disciplining players that are almost in your age group. They are "one of the lads", "the boys" even if he doesn't outwardly show it in interviews.

[YayNJ]

Bayern Munich

[k13]

Thats what they get in being over confident and not starting Lewandowski.

Team be mid table by now without him with how crap they play.

[YayNJ]

Confirming what pretty much every English football fan has known for ever..

Clattenburg admits to referee bias towards Man Utd

The headline was about Jurgen Klopp’s “hypocrisy” after he questioned Manchester United’s recent penalty record, but most shocking was Mark Clattenburg’s admission of referee bias at Old Trafford.

The former Premier League referee said Klopp was wrong to have a go at United’s players as his own are just as culpable when it comes to trying to win penalties.

“The likes of Mo Salah and (Sadio) Mane are just as capable of employing similar tactics"

But then, almost as an afterthought, in an attempt to evidence his assertions, Clattenburg outright admitted that referees were biased towards Manchester United, particularly in Sir Alex Ferguson’s era at Old Trafford.

Don’t worry though, that bias has “eased”…

“He is wrong to suggest there is an aura around United that sees them given favourable decisions. There used to be when Fergie was there, but that has eased massively since he left.”

Dirty, scummy club.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

Confirming what pretty much every English football fan has known for ever..

Clattenburg admits to referee bias towards Man Utd

The headline was about Jurgen Klopp’s “hypocrisy” after he questioned Manchester United’s recent penalty record, but most shocking was Mark Clattenburg’s admission of referee bias at Old Trafford.

The former Premier League referee said Klopp was wrong to have a go at United’s players as his own are just as culpable when it comes to trying to win penalties.

“The likes of Mo Salah and (Sadio) Mane are just as capable of employing similar tactics"

But then, almost as an afterthought, in an attempt to evidence his assertions, Clattenburg outright admitted that referees were biased towards Manchester United, particularly in Sir Alex Ferguson’s era at Old Trafford.

Don’t worry though, that bias has “eased”…

“He is wrong to suggest there is an aura around United that sees them given favourable decisions. There used to be when Fergie was there, but that has eased massively since he left.”

Dirty, scummy club.

Lol, cry more. Clattenburg publicaly admitted that he allowed more extra time for city for the 6- 1 match, also we will be third this season with the favourable decisions while liverpool will be 10th with westham if they didnt have any penalities.

[JVB]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Lol, cry more. Clattenburg publicaly admitted that he allowed more extra time for city for the 6- 1 match, also we will be third this season with the favourable decisions while liverpool will be 10th with westham if they didnt have any penalities.

Sorry for barging in... Spurs fan here. What is this about 6-1?

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by JVB

Sorry for barging in... Spurs fan here. What is this about 6-1?

Premier league Table position, we are first and you are 6th .

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Lol, cry more.

You don't do yourself any favours with childish replies.

If you can't see the problem with match officials admitting that they let Manchester United get away with fouls and decisions to give them an advantage over every other team in the league over a period of a decade then you're either a troll or just a muppet.

Have you ever been to Old Trafford?

[JVB]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Premier league Table position, we are first and you are 6th .

Wow, that clapback is strong.

Touche, sir. Well played.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

You don't do yourself any favours with childish replies.

If you can't see the problem with match officials admitting that they let Manchester United get away with fouls and decisions to give them an advantage over every other team in the league over a period of a decade then you're either a troll or just a muppet.

Have you ever been to Old Trafford?

Yes i have been too, are you gonna come up with the line “ if you are not from manchester then you should not support manchester united “ . Or “ all other supporters from outside the country are plastics” . Manchester united had a lot of success from the 90’s and there are a lot of supporters for them worldwide, deal with it.

And everybody hates leeds united.

https://youtu.be/-uQkSjGuT44

[Tones]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Yes i have been too, are you gonna come up with the line “ if you are not from manchester then you should not support manchester united “ . Or “ all other supporters from outside the country are plastics” . Manchester united had a lot of success from the 90’s and there are a lot of supporters for them worldwide, deal with it.

And everybody hates leeds united.

https://youtu.be/-uQkSjGuT44

not here to add argument, just to to add input, but that is why things like this happens
https://www.sportbible.com/football/...weeks-20160831

If you go to Manchester, historically its majority City fans, and I'm talking years and years before the money take over. My aunt married into a British family from Manchester and he said its like 10-1 City vs United fans.

Yes Manchester United are probably the most bandwagoned team. That is all.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by Tones

not here to add argument, just to to add input, but that is why things like this happens
https://www.sportbible.com/football/...weeks-20160831

If you go to Manchester, historically its majority City fans, and I'm talking years and years before the money take over. My aunt married into a British family from Manchester and he said its like 10-1 City vs United fans.

Yes Manchester United are probably the most bandwagoned team. That is all.

So according to your logic only people from israel can worship jesus. Rest all are bandwagoners.

Why are those empty seats at the city stadium if they have all the fans.

The money came after the success. . We are not Like chelsea or man city where someone just influxed a ton of cash to win something. Its the opposite for us, the stupid owners are leeching the money out of united.

[Raj3sh]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ure-doing.html

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by Tones

not here to add argument, just to to add input, but that is why things like this happens
https://www.sportbible.com/football/...weeks-20160831

If you go to Manchester, historically its majority City fans, and I'm talking years and years before the money take over. My aunt married into a British family from Manchester and he said its like 10-1 City vs United fans.

Yes Manchester United are probably the most bandwagoned team. That is all.

YouGov actually did a case study on this a few years ago (why? I have no idea)

Only 28% of Man Utd fans come from the entire North West region. Man City it's 49%. It also showed that Man City supporters are much older than Man Utd supporters showing long term support, where as Man Utd generally had a much younger fan base.

Obviously Manchester United don't actually play in the City of Manchester either, but rather the borough of Trafford.