2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

How does that have any relevance? The point everyone tried to make w/ their speech about helicopters and drugs is that the President is shrugging this off because he has world class heath care.

And yet, almost every American is able to shrug off this virus without those things. 99.74% of them. So I don't understand why that has any bearing on anything. World class health care, or bronze level Obamacare... you're going to be fine.

sig-worthy right there...

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

How does that have any relevance? The point everyone tried to make w/ their speech about helicopters and drugs is that the President is shrugging this off because he has world class heath care.

And yet, almost every American is able to shrug off this virus without those things. 99.74% of them. So I don't understand why that has any bearing on anything. World class health care, or bronze level Obamacare... you're going to be fine.

It has tremendous bearing on the lives (and deaths) of the .26% who were not "fine", but since you don't know them, they don't matter.

Gross.

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

How does that have any relevance? The point everyone tried to make w/ their speech about helicopters and drugs is that the President is shrugging this off because he has world class heath care.

And yet, almost every American is able to shrug off this virus without those things. 99.74% of them. So I don't understand why that has any bearing on anything. World class health care, or bronze level Obamacare... you're going to be fine.

Having to be admitted to a hospital for a virus is not shrugging anything off.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

The average mailman makes 53k a year. There is literally zero chance you can support a family of 5 to the level I mentioned today on that sort of pay.

Why did someone in what you're calling an unstable financial situation (53k isn't exactly poor..) choose to have multiple kids?

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

You’re missing the point. We have devalued so many jobs that there are fewer and fewer jobs available that you can do this on. 50 years ago if I worked in a warehouse I could provide for a family. You could work as a bank teller or at sears. You could be a milkman. Now all those jobs MAY provide for yourself but not a spouse let alone a family.

Lol.. "You're missing the point". Is that the new "Have a goodnight?"

[rman112]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

What the....? FoxNews has burned your corneas since you are obviously blind to reality. Typical fake news if I have ever seen right here.

Best post ever!

Adoral?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

200,000 families might disagree with you.

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Every single year in this great country of ours, more people die than the previous year. So many advances in health, medicine, people living longer than ever... and yet the numbers just pile up. I don't dispute the pain and grief these families feel as a result of their loved ones passing away but I also recognize what that number means when put into perspective.

80 million Americans infected, 200,000 have passed and of this group, the vast majority were very old and very sick. To be scared of something like this, as a healthy person, is simply illogical and irrational.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Having to be admitted to a hospital for a virus is not shrugging anything off.

I'm confused. Are you arguing something else now? Forget the whole bit about being airlifted and world class care and drugs, the takeaway is that this virus knocked him on his ass and that is what we should all be afraid of?

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Every single year in this great country of ours, more people die than the previous year. So many advances in health, medicine, people living longer than ever... and yet the numbers just pile up. I don't dispute the pain and grief these families feel as a result of their loved ones passing away but I also recognize what that number means when put into perspective.

80 million Americans infected, 200,000 have passed and of this group, the vast majority were very old and very sick. To be scared of something like this, as a healthy person, is simply illogical and irrational.

Not "scared of", but rather "careful of" which we should be, something Trump himself clearly was not, another total failure to add to his endless list of them.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Not "scared of", but rather "careful of" which we should be, something Trump himself clearly was not, another total failure to add to his endless list of them.

Unless you stay inside, in a bubble, inside of another bubble, you can't be too careful. The numbers show that.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

200,000 families might disagree with you.

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And millions more might disagree with you.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

I’m going to bow out here. All this is doing is further my belief that one, most republicans vote to protect a class of people they aren’t in, and two, in order to prop themselves up want to keep a class lower than them so they can feel like they aren’t the lowest class.

LOL.. you're the worst, man. SMFH.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

You do realize that science isn’t a static field and is ever evolving. What fauci said in February has zero bearing on what we know now, and fauci reversed course on a few weeks whole trump and the White House have continued to perpetuate false information.

Science can then technically never be wrong, correct?

[discostu]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Every single year in this great country of ours, more people die than the previous year. So many advances in health, medicine, people living longer than ever... and yet the numbers just pile up. I don't dispute the pain and grief these families feel as a result of their loved ones passing away but I also recognize what that number means when put into perspective.

80 million Americans infected, 200,000 have passed and of this group, the vast majority were very old and very sick. To be scared of something like this, as a healthy person, is simply illogical and irrational.

The beauty of using a figure like "80 million American infected" is that's it's easily negated by the tangible figures of 7.5 million Americans having tested positive.

Sure, the actual number is in between those figures, but enough of the "399 out of 400 will survive"...it's completely disingenuous.

You know that.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

And millions more might disagree with you.

Yeah, until they die, too.
With Trump in charge, we just might get there.

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Unless you stay inside, in a bubble, inside of another bubble, you can't be too careful. The numbers show that.

I've been careful this whole time, haven't lived in a bubble, and haven't missed any work. I hadn't caught it as of 6 weeks ago when I last gave blood, which I know because I got a negative antibodies test with that. I'll get another of those tests shortly with my next donation.

If I could avoid it thus far, the President of the United States certainly should have been able to as well, but regardless, he could've easily been leading by example this whole time, and who knows, maybe if he had, he wouldn't be going through this ordeal right now.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Locoduck

Yes, we all have a chopper and a team of doctors on us 24/7 when we get sick.....maybe he should have gone to a shitty hospital and be thrown with the rest of the covid patients. then I will agree here. Then again republicans are a bunch of cowards......

Drive by hits.. and tolerance!

You're a good guy.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by rman112

LOL.. you're the worst, man. SMFH.

I'm instantly jealous.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Just answer the question, then you will understand the point.

He ignores questions that he knows will make him squirm. It's easier that way.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by rman112

Drive by hits.. and tolerance!

You're a good guy.

thats the shtick.

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by discostu

The beauty of using a figure like "80 million American infected" is that's it's easily negated by the tangible figures of 7.5 million Americans having tested positive.

Sure, the actual number is in between those figures, but enough of the "399 out of 400 will survive"...it's completely disingenuous.

You know that.

Same can be said with using 200,000 as the number of deaths when we all know what a cluster the reporting has been.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Yeah, until they die, too.
With Trump in charge, we just might get there.



I've been careful this whole time, haven't lived in a bubble, and haven't missed any work. I hadn't caught it as of 6 weeks ago when I last gave blood, which I know because I got a negative antibodies test with that. I'll get another of those tests shortly with my next donation.

If I could avoid it thus far, the President of the United States certainly should have been able to as well, but regardless, he could've easily been leading by example this whole time, and who knows, maybe if he had, he wouldn't be going through this ordeal right now.

Everyone will die, I guess the 3 million Americans that will die this year, is all Trump's fault?

Do you work in an office or at home?

[rman112]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Yeah, until they die, too.
With Trump in charge, we just might get there.

"Be scared. We're all going to die. Trump is going to kill you."

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

And millions more might disagree with you.

I guess we will find out on election night....or 2 months later when the election is settled...lol.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Wade Mulroy

I think 3 is the correct option.

Here's a couple other quotes that I don't recall seeing in this thread

March 26, the World Health Organization tweeted: “If you do not have any respiratory symptoms, such as fever, cough, or runny nose, you do not need to wear a medical mask. When used alone, masks can give you a false feeling of protection and can even be a source of infection when not used correctly.”

Edit - removed the second quote because it was a bit confusing.

"Science can change."

[Lonewolf]

Oh look, Trump "beat" coronavirus (likely because he never had it) and gave his image a huge boost right before the election...it's not like anyone predicted this last week or anything, lol.