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Old 08-20-2020, 09:34 AM   #3901
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They do now. Tatis has made them care.
lol you have a point

but the image is horrible
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:36 AM   #3902
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I don't think new money coming in for Tatis cares that the S2 photo is horizontal. I also think new money is going to prefer the chrome variants.
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:40 AM   #3903
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I don't think new money coming in for Tatis cares that the S2 photo is horizontal. I also think new money is going to prefer the chrome variants.
i dont think new money cares about anything but the number on the flip
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:44 AM   #3904
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lol you have a point

but the image is horrible
I hear ya, just disagree,
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:44 AM   #3905
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Lots of new money flowing in from "collectors" too. They're choosing to spend it on the new, hot player as apposed to something/someone else.
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:45 AM   #3906
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i dont think new money cares about anything but the number on the flip
You're right. It could be a photo of Tatis ironing his jeans and it would be gobbled up if there was a profit to be made.
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:45 AM   #3907
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I hear ya, just disagree,
if we all agreed on everything, what a boring hobby this would be lol
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:46 AM   #3908
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We'll just have to ask Tatis himself which card image he likes.
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:46 AM   #3909
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You're right. It could be a photo of Tatis ironing his jeans and it would be gobbled up if there was a profit to be made.
Finally an SSP. Topps sucks!
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:49 AM   #3910
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Seems like people are all over this RD Update card.

Why is the complete set variation getting no recognition? Much shorter print (I think), vertical card?

FTR, I have a few base 410s, I love the horizontal. Just also have a 410 vertical FS version, and wonder why the RD is performing just as well, if not better?
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Seems like people are all over this RD Update card.

Why is the complete set variation getting no recognition? Much shorter print (I think), vertical card?

FTR, I have a few base 410s, I love the horizontal. Just also have a 410 vertical FS version, and wonder why the RD is performing just as well, if not better?
its yet ANOTHER freaking NOT HITTING card
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:52 AM   #3912
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Seems like people are all over this RD Update card.

Why is the complete set variation getting no recognition? Much shorter print (I think), vertical card?

FTR, I have a few base 410s, I love the horizontal. Just also have a 410 vertical FS version, and wonder why the RD is performing just as well, if not better?
I think the 410 is king. The Complete Set 410...I don't know...the words "Complete Set" is throwing people off?!

The update has a nice pic and the "debut" wording doesn't stand out as much as others, so they like that.
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:53 AM   #3913
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The only reason people are interested in Tatis (or anyone, really) is that he is tearing it up with his BAT

San Diego already had a boring defensive wizard HOFer in Ozzie Smith
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:57 AM   #3914
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The only reason people are interested in Tatis (or anyone, really) is that he is tearing it up with his BAT

San Diego already had a boring defensive wizard HOFer in Ozzie Smith
Exactly.

People want to invest in AND collect what's hot. Not everyone, but many.
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Old 08-20-2020, 10:00 AM   #3915
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#410 is king and will be long term. We can hope, rethink, wonder, question, talk photography, sideways, upside down, etc...but don't try to reinvent the wheel. Yes...in todays hobby world, all other cards, variations, complete sets, RD's, etc...are going up too. Take the money, invest in those as well, but don't expect them to ever achieve #410 status. Maybe Tatis helps garner in RDs & CS variations for the next class of rookies, but no matter how well those inserts or variations do...#410 is always going to be the one!
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Old 08-20-2020, 10:01 AM   #3916
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its yet ANOTHER freaking NOT HITTING card
Guess that's true. It does have a sliding "Moore" from the Mariners on it. Last I saw, he's doing fairly well also. Maybe HE'LL end up being Trout 2.0 and send this card to the moon ALICE!!

One can dream. I mean, we're talking about 15 dollar raw cards here, so there's that. LOL.
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Old 08-20-2020, 10:01 AM   #3917
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I think the 410 is king. The Complete Set 410...I don't know...the words "Complete Set" is throwing people off?!

The update has a nice pic and the "debut" wording doesn't stand out as much as others, so they like that.
The naming convention is all over the place. Topps Complete Factory Set Chrome Refractor Variation?
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Old 08-20-2020, 10:03 AM   #3918
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i dont think new money cares about anything but the number on the flip
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Old 08-20-2020, 10:03 AM   #3919
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The naming convention is all over the place. Topps Complete Factory Set Chrome Refractor Variation?
You mean the Topps Complete Factory Set Chrome Refractor home jersey bat in air sunlgasses on with dreadlocks swaying in the air watching the grand slam he just hit on the 3-0 count making Texas mad breaking the unwritten rule Variation?
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The naming convention is all over the place. Topps Complete Factory Set Chrome Refractor Variation?
I like the dugout topps chrome one. I think the buyers like them as well. It's the Complete Set THROWING one that's not getting much love. Too many Tatis!!!
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You mean the Topps Complete Factory Set Chrome Refractor home jersey bat in air sunlgasses on with dreadlocks swaying in the air watching the grand slam he just hit on the 3-0 count making Texas mad breaking the unwritten rule Variation?
You forgot the fire emojis, LOOK, INVEST
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Old 08-20-2020, 10:09 AM   #3922
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if we all agreed on everything, what a boring hobby this would be lol
I also enjoy that Sr had a very similar card.
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Old 08-20-2020, 10:09 AM   #3923
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Chrome Factory Set Variation to me is the card to get. I know there's a bunch of pop haters on here, but let me just post the gem rates followed by PSA 10 prices of the following cards below:

Topps Series 2 #410: 7619 $300
Topps Series 2 Complete Set #410: 2587 $100
Topps Chrome #203: 3765 $300
Topps Chrome Sapphire Edition: 172 $3,000
Topps Series 2 Complete Set Chrome Variation: 243 $400

Just seems a little odd to me
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Old 08-20-2020, 10:11 AM   #3924
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Interesting read. These numbers are crazy to contemplate.

https://www.mlb.com/news/fernando-ta...re-projections
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Chrome Factory Set Variation to me is the card to get. I know there's a bunch of pop haters on here, but let me just post the gem rates followed by PSA 10 prices of the following cards below:

Topps Series 2 #410: 7619 $300
Topps Series 2 Complete Set #410: 2587 $100
Topps Chrome #203: 3765 $300
Topps Chrome Sapphire Edition: 172 $3,000
Topps Series 2 Complete Set Chrome Variation: 243 $400

Just seems a little odd to me
How dare you bring facts into this! Pop & secondary market is pretty eye opening though on the CS Chrome Variation. Are they condition sensitive? Any idea on the print run? We all know a lot of those sets will never be unboxed.
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