Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by RyanSwinger

Both Ichiro's will be back to $500+ in a week or so imo.

Could definitely see that happening. Go check ebay there is lots of healthy interest at current prices and it feels like the undercutting is slowing down / bottomed out on a few cards.

Not saying all of them, but many of them.

[Geoff G]

Originally Posted by DudeDirk

Welp, new guy here. I'm that guy that got in late. I collected for about 18 years before fading out in the early 2000's. My buddy @Chris_P was pumping this project up for weeks before I finally listened and dived in. Unfortunately for me the timing couldn't be worse.

From the second I bought it's been nothing but downhill and frustration following this board.

This past Monday I had grabbed both the Thiele Trout ($214) and Baller Trout ($199) followed by purchases of the Griffey Shore/Ryan Vides combo. Followed that with a single purchase of the Williams Oldmanalan.

I was hooked by Blake's live YouTube saying "buy everything". I thought for sure the Trout's were a wise investment considering it's Mike Trout and relatively low print runs. I was obviously wrong.

At this point I don't even know if I should hold or sell or if it's just a lost cause all the way around. Just a big bag of welp and a lesson learned. I'll stick to taking low risks and picking my spots to spend on Dirk/Luka.

I’ve bought uglier less valuable cards for more .. just tuck em away and enjoy em later .. you also might be pleasantly surprised monetarily


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[DudeDirk]

Originally Posted by FT35

Welcome! First things first...do you like the cards? If so, maybe keep them?

Next, I’d say your timing couldn’t be better. If you had come in last week you would have paid too much! Now things are getting reasonable again. Great time to jump in. Plus, you’re never to late to buy that day’s cards on Topps.com. Still plenty of set to go...enjoy!

The cards are beautiful, although I still don't have the Trout Baller in hand. At this point I'm leaning towards just hanging on to them and seeing if a miracle is left.

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by DudeDirk

Welp, new guy here. I'm that guy that got in late. I collected for about 18 years before fading out in the early 2000's. My buddy @Chris_P was pumping this project up for weeks before I finally listened and dived in. Unfortunately for me the timing couldn't be worse.

From the second I bought it's been nothing but downhill and frustration following this board.

This past Monday I had grabbed both the Thiele Trout ($214) and Baller Trout ($199) followed by purchases of the Griffey Shore/Ryan Vides combo. Followed that with a single purchase of the Williams Oldmanalan.

I was hooked by Blake's live YouTube saying "buy everything". I thought for sure the Trout's were a wise investment considering it's Mike Trout and relatively low print runs. I was obviously wrong.

At this point I don't even know if I should hold or sell or if it's just a lost cause all the way around. Just a big bag of welp and a lesson learned. I'll stick to taking low risks and picking my spots to spend on Dirk/Luka.

I would Hold what ya got and hope for the best. But you Could easily liquidate tonight and live to play another day.


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[RyanSwinger]

I personally think this Trout Ermys might run off a bit more before it bottoms. Way too many listings

[mudflap02]

One thing I hadn’t thought of until now. These aren’t serial numbered. Would have been nice if they were but I know that adds more cost and labor into the product.

Do we trust the numbers from Topps? These are easy enough to print and hypothetically speaking, it would be easy enough to print more than the announced print run. Or less. Just food for thought.

Edit - I do trust that the announced numbers are the same as the number in circulation. But there is the possibility for them to be different.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by sourcehill

Market is just too flooded. It'll take some time for these low print run cards to get locked into collections, but I'm preaching to the choir. Here's another way to look at it:

Is there 1,700 P2020 full set collectors? Most likely.

Is there 1,700 JK5 collectors? No sure.

Is there 1,700 Ichiro collectors? Absolutely.

Is there 1,700 people who are collecting cards they like and this happens to be one of them? Absolutely.

Now we just need people to stop listing them and start putting them in their collections. Ha.

I am collecting at least one complete 400-card set.

I am also collecting at least one 20-card JK5 set.

I am also collecting at least one 20-card Ichiro set.

At least three of those JK5 Ichiro cards have landed to stay.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by mudflap02

One thing I hadn’t thought of until now. These aren’t serial numbered. Would have been nice if they were but I know that adds more cost and labor into the product.

Do we trust the numbers from Topps? These are easy enough to print and hypothetically speaking, it would be easy enough to print more than the announced print run. Or less. Just food for thought.

I trust Topps with P2020.

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by RyanSwinger

I personally think this Trout Ermys might run off a bit more before it bottoms. Way too many listings

But they continue to be bought up. Even in the 1k range. Lotta volume that will slow at somepoint. You have a lot this weekend that bought last weekend panic selling this week, and now they need to move along with the 100 shore Griffeys they bought. Supply should solidify by mid to late next week. Then hopefully a gradual growth for awhile. P2020 VIX was at a 90 4 days ago. Feels about a 40 right now.


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[sourcehill]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I am collecting at least one complete 400-card set.

I am also collecting at least one 20-card JK5 set.

I am also collecting at least one 20-card Ichiro set.

At least three of those JK5 Ichiro cards have landed to stay.

BUY BUY BUY BOYS! 3 MORE LOCKED AWAY! (Also one locked away in my collection)

[gmoney328]

Originally Posted by Snakeonia

But they continue to be bought up. Even in the 1k range. Lotta volume that will slow at somepoint. You have a lot this weekend that bought last weekend panic selling this week, and now they need to move along with the 100 shore Griffeys they bought. Supply should solidify by mid to late next week. Then hopefully a gradual growth for awhile. P2020 VIX was at a 90 4 days ago. Feels about a 40 right now.


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It does seem like the VIX has started to stabilize for sure with these.

Has anyone seen what’s coming out tomorrow yet?

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by sourcehill

BUY BUY BUY BOYS! 3 MORE LOCKED AWAY! (Also one locked away in my collection)

Hurry! Somebody give me one!!!!

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by DudeDirk

I'll stick to taking low risks and picking my spots to spend on Dirk/Luka.

Why not Zion/Lebron.

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I am collecting at least one complete 400-card set.

I am also collecting at least one 20-card JK5 set.

I am also collecting at least one 20-card Ichiro set.

At least three of those JK5 Ichiro cards have landed to stay.

Nice to hear JK5 is getting some love. His set is going to look amazing together.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by MCyganik

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This is quite possibly the best thing I’ve seen on these forums. Bravo!

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by DudeDirk

Welp, new guy here. I'm that guy that got in late. I collected for about 18 years before fading out in the early 2000's. My buddy @Chris_P was pumping this project up for weeks before I finally listened and dived in. Unfortunately for me the timing couldn't be worse.



From the second I bought it's been nothing but downhill and frustration following this board.



This past Monday I had grabbed both the Thiele Trout ($214) and Baller Trout ($199) followed by purchases of the Griffey Shore/Ryan Vides combo. Followed that with a single purchase of the Williams Oldmanalan.



I was hooked by Blake's live YouTube saying "buy everything". I thought for sure the Trout's were a wise investment considering it's Mike Trout and relatively low print runs. I was obviously wrong.



At this point I don't even know if I should hold or sell or if it's just a lost cause all the way around. Just a big bag of welp and a lesson learned. I'll stick to taking low risks and picking my spots to spend on Dirk/Luka.

Eff Blake. He has done nothing but lie to us and take advantage of us while lining his pockets with his drip art and famny packs. I'd rather support Baller than Blake.

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[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by RyanSwinger

I personally think this Trout Ermys might run off a bit more before it bottoms. Way too many listings

Exactly why I'm holding off buying one or two more.

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Nice to hear JK5 is getting some love. His set is going to look amazing together.

I was really underestimating his work until I bought his box and exclusive card. The artwork is phenominal and I love the tie back to star wars. I'm really excited to see what he bring for the big dogs... Trout Jeter and Griff

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Eff Blake. He has done nothing but lie to us and take advantage of us while lining his pockets with his drip art and famny packs. I'd rather support Baller than Blake.

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Jesus, tell us how you really feel?

[BraveAtlanta]

When will we see Baller Trout above $125 again?

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

I was really underestimating his work until I bought his box and exclusive card. The artwork is phenominal and I love the tie back to star wars. I'm really excited to see what he bring for the big dogs... Trout Jeter and Griff

Are you collecting Chang? If not, at the end we'll do a JK5 vs. Chang battle. Loser buys the winner a $5 card of their choice. For the fun.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

I was really underestimating his work until I bought his box and exclusive card. The artwork is phenominal and I love the tie back to star wars. I'm really excited to see what he bring for the big dogs... Trout Jeter and Griff

Bar far has the most intricacies and detail in his work of any of the artists. Infinite pen strokes.


Curious to see if/how they all tie together in the end. Can't wait to see the mahogany dick in a box exclusives in hand.

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Eff Blake. He has done nothing but lie to us and take advantage of us while lining his pockets with his drip art and famny packs. I'd rather support Baller than Blake.

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Okay, I for one love his art work. Did he hurt his reputation a little by his comments and hype? Yeah. HE IS NOT TO BLAME for all of this.

But look at this from his shoes. He was excited. Hearing a 100k PR imminent on the Griffey wouldn't make you giddey when you're getting $4 a card and he has the #1 in the set due next week. HE IS GETTING PAID! He's worked hard to be in his position and he was feeding his personal excitement to his viewers.

PS: His fannies are going to be awesome.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by BraveAtlanta

When will we see Baller Trout above $125 again?

Anywhere from 1 week to Never.

[MJRaider]

Originally Posted by BraveAtlanta

When will we see Baller Trout above $125 again?

You got 3 to sell together? If so, you might be safe on June 30.