Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 741

Digitaljordan · 05-28-2020, 05:04 PM

So SPI asks the question "What happens to the value of the 2020 cards if they make a 2021 or 2022" and insinuates that the prices would fall. I disagree. I think that the 2020 cards will hold if not go up as newer sets started dropping.

He also fails to realize the impact these cards have on people outside of the sports card hobby. Never before has sports cards been able to capture the attention of pop culture like this has and it will forever be known as the first.

ThoseBackPages · 05-28-2020, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Digitaljordan

So SPI asks the question "What happens to the value of the 2020 cards if they make a 2021 or 2022" and insinuates that the prices would fall. I disagree. I think that the 2020 cards will hold if not go up as newer sets started dropping.

He also fails to realize the impact these cards have on people outside of the sports card hobby. Never before has sports cards been able to capture the attention of pop culture like this has and it will forever be known as the first.

THIS this THIS!!!

he's got his #BaseballCardGoggles on

SaveMeTheGum · 05-28-2020, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rippev

I can’t stand this guy. Can somebody summarize what he says in 25 minutes that could probably be stated in one or two sentences?

I'll do you one better:

#baseballcardgoggles

Skunkbush · 05-28-2020, 05:07 PM

Finally got myself a Baller Trout paid $125.

Acid Dock · 05-28-2020, 05:08 PM

BTW according to the Project 2020 facebook group Ben Baller announced on his podcast today that he's doing the first collaboration card with another artist. It's a 90 minute podcast so I haven't listened myself but here's the link if people are interested: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000476089966

RAV2773 · 05-28-2020, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rippev

I can’t stand this guy. Can somebody summarize what he says in 25 minutes that could probably be stated in one or two sentences?

He says that people have lost their Dam minds buying these cards at high prices but says the cards are great if you're a collector but not even close to being a good investment for the future 510,20 years down the road.

ForzaMilan92 · 05-28-2020, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rippev

I can’t stand this guy. Can somebody summarize what he says in 25 minutes that could probably be stated in one or two sentences?

Long story short, he wants collectors (and investors) to acknowledge that they can buy a PSA 10 Trout Update for the price of an Ermsy right now.

BurnerNotify · 05-28-2020, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skunkbush

Finally got myself a Baller Trout paid $125.

Congrats. $125 is a good price. I Think $180-200 was way overcooked at this point. I predict it settles in the $140’s for awhile. If I’m right I won’t say I told you so (promise).

Digitaljordan · 05-28-2020, 05:12 PM

His video is basically a 25 minute contradiction as to what he tries to convince a bunch of newbs each week.

Skunkbush · 05-28-2020, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Congrats. $125 is a good price. I Think $180-200 was way overcooked at this point. I predict it settles in the $140’s for awhile. If I’m right I won’t say I told you so (promise).

I definitely wanted the card, but didn't want to fork over $180 for sure. Buyers market right now would kick myself for not picking up one

BC Hunt · 05-28-2020, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ForzaMilan92

Long story short, he wants collectors (and investors) to acknowledge that they can buy a PSA 10 Trout Update for the price of an Ermsy right now.

kevbojones · 05-28-2020, 05:16 PM

He completely missed the boat. Aren't people paying him $50 a month to get hot tips on cards like this?

He let his subscribers down.

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Originally Posted by hbcards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=befyUQCApgk

Sports Card Investor goes off about Project 2020!

AlexHunter · 05-28-2020, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

it is!

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joeed10 · 05-28-2020, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hbcards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=befyUQCApgk

Sports Card Investor goes off about Project 2020!

I joined his membership a few weeks ago just to see what the content was like. Someone yesterday posted in his Membership Facebook group disagreeing with him. Said something about how he praises himself, I forgot the wording, it was priceless. I could see him in the corner pouting after he read it.

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mrmike79 · 05-28-2020, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dgr81

Baller trout down to $125

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Will double by the middle of next week. Go ahead and write it down.

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

Pick a date and amount and I will bet you 1. I will take the under for now, but I think you put a good line.

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

1 Trout Baller. Pick a day. Wednesday 6/3 at noon eastern? I say the card will not have hit $250.

Difficult to define, as you can just sell one at $250. We can put it to the group here to see if that is right or we can say there need to be 3 ebay sales of $250 or more to define it. This is just fun, because if they are $250 I am great with it and don't mind losing one to you.

We also don't have to bet. I am not calling you out on your prediction. I hope you are right.

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Originally Posted by premium1981

I agree it may be hard to judge the winner if sales are $245, $255, $240, and $260. My previous won wager was for a print run which is defined. I said a week, so by next Thursday at noon. 3 Baller Trout's have to have sold for $250 or more within that time frame. That work? I'm game if you are. Also fine if you want to hold off and just make it a pride bet. I don't mind either way.

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

As I said already, these go up and I am s$%^^& in tall cotton. Let's make the bet. Your parameters are good.

Can I get in on this? I'll take the under on $250, putting up one of my Baller Trouts in wager.

JRX · 05-28-2020, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by speedyjg13

You ain't lying! This is a marathon, not a sprint!

I wonder how many of the 0 iTrader, less than 100 post, recently joined members that keep commenting here will be here in the end. I almost feel like all those new members but have a ton of knowledge of cards suddenly have been part of the recently discovered "cook groups."

I like how TBP would quote them and be like, "Nice first post!"

I'll plan on being here through card 400

efdot · 05-28-2020, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Peteybass

I think that Efdot and Siff are still my favorites. Bought a second Efdot McGwire a while back. Love that card.

I'm trying to get more of my McGwires. Let me know if you might be down to trade for some original art or prints! PM me

Middies31985 · 05-28-2020, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by joeed10

I joined his membership a few weeks ago just to see what the content was like. Someone yesterday posted in his Membership Facebook group disagreeing with him. Said something about how he praises himself, I forgot the wording, it was priceless. I could see him in the corner pouting after he read it.

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His interviews are great. Asks the person a question and then interrupts them and goes on a 10 minute rant about his thoughts on the question he asked his interviewee.

Guy also quit posting breaks on YouTube because he was getting destroyed in the comments about how he handled the cards, mispronounced the names, and fumbled with packs. Replied back to every single negative comment on his YouTube and hearted every comment that praised him.

One of the biggest quick flip opportunities in the hobby's history and SCI missed the boat. Sad.

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superdan49 · 05-28-2020, 05:21 PM

Tl;dw summary of SCI video:

*P2020 cards are great to collect but not to invest in.
*Thinks most of the P2020 hype is due to lack of sports rn.
*Topps might water down P2020 by repeating the set year after year.
*Asks in 10 years how many people will care about this set.
*Cards are overprinted.
*"People lost their damn minds on Topps 2020 Project."

Howie7107 · 05-28-2020, 05:21 PM

I will say, SCI brought up one point that I thought could hurt the long term price growth of some of the more middling print run cards. That’s that even though it’ll be by different artists, there’s still going to be 15-16 more versions of every single card and they’ll be much cheaper than the pre-existing versions. I think long run it’s a concern, but it’s going to take months before that plays itself out.

cardinalsooner · 05-28-2020, 05:21 PM

I don't know why he's even doing a comparison between these cards and the cards they are based on, they are two completely separate entities with different audiences (that happen to overlap). Saying that 2020 is not a great investment because HE would rather have the actual rookie card is not good advice, that apparently people are paying him for.

speedyjg13 · 05-28-2020, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Acid Dock

BTW according to the Project 2020 facebook group Ben Baller announced on his podcast today that he's doing the first collaboration card with another artist. It's a 90 minute podcast so I haven't listened myself but here's the link if people are interested: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000476089966

Please don't dilute yourself Baller by doing a card with another artist. This is one artist per card. If you want to do that, that's fine. Make it like a teddy bear card like the other guy did. But please dont dilute this.

I think Baller is pissed his PR got smashed

efdot · 05-28-2020, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexHunter

Combined Print run guess for Efdot Gwynn and siff Jeter: 278,390

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REALLY? damn that would be insane.

metsandweezer · 05-28-2020, 05:23 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...-its-peak/amp/

Forbes again.

Shorty · 05-28-2020, 05:23 PM

Kinda like how Topps watered down the value of 1952 Topps by having another set in 1953 and so on?

05-28-2020, 05:21 PM	#18519
superdan49 BODA Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,272	Tl;dw summary of SCI video: P2020 cards are great to collect but not to invest in. Thinks most of the P2020 hype is due to lack of sports rn. Topps might water down P2020 by repeating the set year after year. Asks in 10 years how many people will care about this set. Cards are overprinted. "People lost their damn minds on Topps 2020 Project." __________________ Cardboard Detective Emeritus superdan49@protonmail.com — Anonymous Tip-line

05-28-2020, 05:23 PM	#18525
Shorty Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Central PA Posts: 118 CumberlandValleyCollectibles	Kinda like how Topps watered down the value of 1952 Topps by having another set in 1953 and so on? __________________ PC: Mike Trout, Griffey Jr, Ripken, Wander Franco, Luis Robert, Julio Rodriguez Looking for PSA 10 RCs

05-28-2020, 05:04 PM	#18501
Digitaljordan Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Portland Posts: 418 Digitaljordan44	So SPI asks the question "What happens to the value of the 2020 cards if they make a 2021 or 2022" and insinuates that the prices would fall. I disagree. I think that the 2020 cards will hold if not go up as newer sets started dropping. He also fails to realize the impact these cards have on people outside of the sports card hobby. Never before has sports cards been able to capture the attention of pop culture like this has and it will forever be known as the first.

05-28-2020, 05:07 PM	#18504
Skunkbush Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 302	Finally got myself a Baller Trout paid $125.

05-28-2020, 05:08 PM	#18505
Acid Dock Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: jersey Posts: 232	BTW according to the Project 2020 facebook group Ben Baller announced on his podcast today that he's doing the first collaboration card with another artist. It's a 90 minute podcast so I haven't listened myself but here's the link if people are interested: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000476089966

05-28-2020, 05:12 PM	#18509
Digitaljordan Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Portland Posts: 418 Digitaljordan44	His video is basically a 25 minute contradiction as to what he tries to convince a bunch of newbs each week.

05-28-2020, 05:21 PM	#18520
Howie7107 Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 3,183 Howie7107	I will say, SCI brought up one point that I thought could hurt the long term price growth of some of the more middling print run cards. That’s that even though it’ll be by different artists, there’s still going to be 15-16 more versions of every single card and they’ll be much cheaper than the pre-existing versions. I think long run it’s a concern, but it’s going to take months before that plays itself out.

05-28-2020, 05:21 PM	#18521
cardinalsooner Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 826	I don't know why he's even doing a comparison between these cards and the cards they are based on, they are two completely separate entities with different audiences (that happen to overlap). Saying that 2020 is not a great investment because HE would rather have the actual rookie card is not good advice, that apparently people are paying him for.

05-28-2020, 05:23 PM	#18524
metsandweezer Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 13,246 Cascardo4	https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...-its-peak/amp/ Forbes again.