Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[Morgoth]

I got the Trout thought it was a unique take. The clemente just is laid out funny but I like the logos

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by SmokeyJ

I've always found 1992 Donruss worse than 1991 Fleer.

I like the blue color used on '92 Donruss
'89 Donruss is the ugliest from that line during that era, in my view.

Artist Cuyler Smith does a cool line of illustrated trading cards depicting pop culture characters from movies (and TV shows) that are somehow sports-related and uses sport card designs from cards that were released when the movie featuring the subject was released. He did a card of Smee from the Peter Pan movie "Hook" utilizing the' 91 Fleer design. While Cuyler is usually very faithful to the designs, he nevertheless changed the border color for this one to red.

[scb]

Originally Posted by Eldun

I wish I had enough talent to draw anything more than stick figures. I've been lurking on the site for a while but in general don't like to post on any forums.

I did get into the hobby about 18 months ago, catching the bug after finding out about online breaks. Really enjoyed doing those for a period and even was enjoying the hobby enough to go to the National in Chicago last year.

After a while though I found that my enjoyment of the hobby can't come from just collecting anything. I am not a flipper and while I buy on ebay I've never done a sale on it because I worry about all the horror stories I've read. So to limit my increasing collection of all sports and teams I've been trying to determine what I want my PC to be.

Perhaps because of that I am open to more unique types of product such as this. Plus it does let me add knowledge of the history of the hobby that I don't have coming back in as an adult 25 years after collecting as a kid.

Other than Project 2020 I also have narrowed my baseball collecting down to Bowman as I have found it fun as a way to be engaged in learning about the prospects.

Props to you for collecting what you like! I also enjoy the prospecting side of things, although I generally get more wrapped up in Bowman non-auto chrome and parallels.

Don't let other people's snark get in the way of your collecting.

[This is]

I am a huge fan of that Ichiro.. One of his nicest looking cards.

[marterburn]

I wish there were more constructive discussions on these.

I looked up some of Fucci's work bc I thought the Ripken was so bleh. It's actually pretty darn interesting. NSFW, but interesting.

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[mmbtvs]

1991 Fleer is the greatest product of all time.

[Skipscards]

Someone has officially ruined my favorite card of all-time...

[marterburn]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Someone has officially ruined my favorite card of all-time...

Just wait. There's 19 more coming.

(As much as I like these for the most part, it's not that I don't understand the hate).

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[Rjackd11]

F’in awful. Insult to the original sets.

[EyeOfTheTiger]

Originally Posted by commando

You are so right! And the artist who drew Julio Cruz was a little ambitious with his heavy-swingin' interpretation... Cruz hit 23 home runs in ten seasons.

The Julio Cruz looks like a Dick Tracy character walked into Tron.

[Eldun]

As there are a couple ways to collect this set I was curious how people thought of it.

If there was a card in this set that you really liked because of the combo of the artist and player, so you got it. Then you decided to complete a set would you be more likely to say

1. It's about the players - Get the other 19 cards of the same player (because you like the player) even though you may not like some of the cards stylistically

2. It's about the artists - Get the other 19 cards by the same artist (because you like the art) even though some of the players normally don't interest you

[base set]

I like Art Cards - Gallery, National Chicle.

But I never like 100% of them.

I thought turning Factory Sets into “packs” to rip for just ten or so cards before the rest are thrown in the trash is one of the dumbest products of the last 30 years.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by marterburn

Funny you use the word grotesque, because, well, this is considered a masterpiece.


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It's an allegory of Topps's relationship to its customer base.

[awz50]

Comparing topps too fleer

Gross

[Joliet Jake]

Originally Posted by Eldun

As there are a couple ways to collect this set I was curious how people thought of it.

If there was a card in this set that you really liked because of the combo of the artist and player, so you got it. Then you decided to complete a set would you be more likely to say

1. It's about the players - Get the other 19 cards of the same player (because you like the player) even though you may not like some of the cards stylistically

2. It's about the artists - Get the other 19 cards by the same artist (because you like the art) even though some of the players normally don't interest you

I'm familiar with a couple artists featured in this series, and I especially like Matt Taylor's style. I have a couple of his Star Wars art prints. Knowing I would at least want one of his cards, and being unsure how I would react to the other artists' work, I felt going with both options would be the most fun. It allows me to collect a range of artwork, regardless of how I personally feel about it upon initial exposure, and see a single artist's interpretation of 20 iconic cards.

The only card I've purchased so far is the Griffey by King Saladeen, and I plan to collect all of the Griffey cards. If more than one artist jumps out, I may consider collecting multiple artist's series.

[gmarutiak]

I can't wait to see the comments about today's Mattingly card!!! It's so very bad.

[Tasupi]

Originally Posted by gmarutiak

I can't wait to see the comments about today's Mattingly card!!! It's so very bad.

Lol I came here just for that. I don’t like lots of these cards but I understand them and appreciate them for what they are. This one though I actually laughed out loud.

[starman314]

Originally Posted by Tasupi

Lol I came here just for that. I don’t like lots of these cards but I understand them and appreciate them for what they are. This one though I actually laughed out loud.

Haha, that's what brought me here too. Had to see what people were saying about it. I love Mattingly, but come on...that looks like what would happen if I asked my 5 year old to draw a picture of the '84 Mattingly card.

[marterburn]

Originally Posted by gmarutiak

I can't wait to see the comments about today's Mattingly card!!! It's so very bad.

I laughed at it too. Shore's work is supposed to be funny.

I liked the Henderson less than the Mattingly though. It's barely recognizable as Josh Vides' style. I wish he'd done more, but I'm not the artist.

[boston12]

That Mattingly card is simply amazing.

[smapdi]

While it's in Vides's outline style and consistent with his other crossover products, his version of the Henderson is just lazy.

[okumeister]

I think the product is a success in the sense that it is causing quite a buzz in the hobby, both positive and negative opinions colliding, and the fact that they are actually selling well.
None of the cards have sold less than 1,000 copies so far, and the silver frame Artist Proof cards ($99, limited to 20 copies) sell out instantaneously, though that is partly because of bots trying to resell immediately on eBay for 3-5 times markup.

I get that some traditional collectors won't like the concept, but it's unique and I applaud Topps and the artists for the attempt.
I obviously don't like ALL of the artworks (yet some I love), but it certainly is an interesting project/series.

[vegask]

If Fucci made this for the Ripkin,


Would've bought ten

[ThoseBackPages]

i like the rickey

[bronxburner24]

I'm not interested in artistic interpretations of existing cards. That said, I realize some people are and that's fine.

But I just saw the Rickey Henderson card. I don't even see how that qualifies as art. I mean it looks to me like the guy just took the original card, and then outlined it sloppily in black sharpie. And Topps paid that guy to do it. I feel like anyone with hands and a sharpie could take a reprint Henderson and create that in a minute and if you put it side by side with the one the "artist" did, it would be a crapshoot picking which was which. Congrats to the people that pay $20 for that.