BA Top 100 Prospects - June Update

[reddragonthe]

Originally Posted by marlinsmaniac20

You're reaching in a pump attempt. Even the most liberal of lists don't have him in the top 100.

I'm confused - are we still talking about Jazz? And what's a liberal top 100 list? One that has over 100 players?

If we ARE talking about Jazz... I don't know if I've seen a list he ISN'T in that 50-75 range on.

So I agree with the others that he likely is still Top 100 and I don't see them dropping him.

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by Orange October

Seuly is still the king. 95 SOs in 184 ABs this season. He hasn't even been cranking homers this season either really.

Yeah, he has been terribad this season but at least the walks are up

Looking like an ultra poor man's version of the old Gallo at best

By ultra poor i mean living in a cave and eating garbage to survive

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by 34JacktheRipper

This. I don’t own any Jazz nor do I plan on buying any, but I think a lot of the negativity towards him based on his season is overblown. He’s kinda developing into a true 3 outcomes guy, but as a kid who can hit for power and be a good big league shortstop, there will be a market.


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He's like a miniature poor man's Joey Gallo. FWIW, when I saw him in the AFL I didn't think he was an average MLB SS. The quickness is there, but his reactions were slow and his arm was soft. I pegged him as a future 2b or cf.

Originally Posted by marlinsmaniac20

You're reaching in a pump attempt. Even the most liberal of lists don't have him in the top 100.

Perhaps (although I don't know why I would), but I'll tell you this. I've made my own list every year for many, many years and if there is one type of player I have done better than the consensus, it is high pt/mediocre stat/extreme youth types. Just being 18 and getting 500+ PA in full season ball is a huge predictor of future success, let alone doing it with a .150 ISO and prior year dominance/hotness.

[drstrader5]

Originally Posted by Orange October

Seuly is still the king. 95 SOs in 184 ABs this season. He hasn't even been cranking homers this season either really.

Wilmington (hitters) has been terrible this year, I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest Melendez, Pratto and Matias are struggling because of poor development and not a lack of talent.


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[drstrader5]

Originally Posted by reddragonthe

I'm confused - are we still talking about Jazz? And what's a liberal top 100 list? One that has over 100 players?



If we ARE talking about Jazz... I don't know if I've seen a list he ISN'T in that 50-75 range on.



So I agree with the others that he likely is still Top 100 and I don't see them dropping him.

I was confused at first but I think they’re talking about Heliot.


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[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by reddragonthe

I'm confused - are we still talking about Jazz? And what's a liberal top 100 list? One that has over 100 players?

If we ARE talking about Jazz... I don't know if I've seen a list he ISN'T in that 50-75 range on.

So I agree with the others that he likely is still Top 100 and I don't see them dropping him.

Talking about Heliot Ramos simultaneously. That's where the no top 100 discussion is from.

That's a good comparison though. I've seen them both in person and up close. I've also looked at both of their stats. Heliot Ramos is (and was at the start of the year) a better prospect than Jazz Chisholm.

[StlScott]

Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

Yeah, he has been terribad this season but at least the walks are up

Looking like an ultra poor man's version of the old Gallo at best

By ultra poor i mean living in a cave and eating garbage to survive

I used to think that way. In fairness to Gallo, Gallo is one of the highest producing hitters in the league. So a poor mans Gallo at short will be pretty good!

[drstrader5]

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. graduated off the list this weekend, meaning Fernando Tatis Jr. is the new No. 1 prospect in baseball for the time being. Both Eloy Jimenez and Nick Senzel also graduated, meaning the Top 10 has quite a different look to it.

Outfielders Jarren Duran (Red Sox) and Heliot Ramos (Giants) are the latest to slide into the rankings.

1 Fernando Tatis Jr.
2 Wander Franco
3 Jo Adell
4 MacKenzie Gore
5 Forrest Whitley
6 Bo Bichette
7 Brendan Rodgers
8 Royce Lewis
9 Jesus Luzardo
10 Casey Mize
11 Austin Riley
12 Kyle Tucker
13 Alex Kirilloff
14 Keston Hiura
15 Sixto Sanchez
16 Joey Bart
17 Carter Kieboom
18 Keibert Ruiz
19 A.J. Puk
20 Michael Kopech
21 Griffin Canning
22 Gavin Lux
23 Yordan Alvarez
24 Luis Urias
25 Taylor Trammell
26 Mitch Keller
27 Brendan McKay
28 Jarred Kelenic
29 Dylan Cease
30 Matt Manning
31 Andres Gimenez
32 Nate Pearson
33 Ian Anderson
34 Brent Honeywell
35 Luis Robert
36 Ke'Bryan Hayes
37 Jonathan India
38 Francisco Mejia
39 DL Hall
40 Nolan Gorman
41 Alec Bohm
42 Brusdar Graterol
43 Dustin May
44 Adrian Morejon
45 Matthew Liberatore
46 Jordan Groshans
47 Luis Patino
48 Nico Hoerner
49 Jesus Sanchez
50 Cristian Pache
51 Justus Sheffield
52 Ronaldo Hernandez
53 Vidal Brujan
54 Nick Madrigal
55 Brady Singer
56 Drew Waters
57 Sean Murphy
58 Hans Crouse
59 Kyle Wright
60 Triston McKenzie
61 Hunter Greene
62 Grayson Rodriguez
63 Jon Duplantier
64 Dylan Carlson
65 Jazz Chisholm
66 Luis Garcia Nats
67 Tony Santillan
68 Corbin Martin
69 Oneil Cruz
70 Bryse Wilson
71 Spencer Howard
72 Nate Lowe
73 Elehuris Montero
74 Ryan Weathers
75 Nolan Jones
76 Ryan Mountcastle
77 Yusniel Diaz
78 Ronny Mauricio
79 Isaac Paredes
80 Will Smith
81 Josh Naylor
82 Logan Allen
83 Colton Welker
84 Tyler Freeman
85 Victor Victor Mesa
86 Jose Suarez
87 Kyle Muller
88 Eric Pardinho
89 Anthony Kay
90 William Contreras
91 Julio Rodriguez
92 Daniel Lynch
93 Deivi Garcia
94 Trevor Larnach
95 Zac Gallen
96 Jordan Balazovic
97 Brice Turang
98 Triston Casas
99 Jarren Duran
100 Heliot Ramos

[Shadowsonic2004]

Originally Posted by drstrader5

30#@ Brendan McKay

Two years of holding this guys cards has felt like a lot more.

[Zauron]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

Talking about Heliot Ramos simultaneously. That's where the no top 100 discussion is from.

That's a good comparison though. I've seen them both in person and up close. I've also looked at both of their stats. Heliot Ramos is (and was at the start of the year) a better prospect than Jazz Chisholm.

Ramos had a rough start/middle of the year before finishing strong last year. I'm slightly invested in him, and this year he's really turned it up a notch walking at a higher rate, with more power and a solid average. The K's are still a little concerning, but if he keeps the walks up, and continues with this power he will be a good player down the road. He is still only 19 years old

[jeff24k]

Originally Posted by Orange October

Seuly is still the king. 95 SOs in 184 ABs this season. He hasn't even been cranking homers this season either really.

Is Wilmington an extreme pitcher's park? Matias, Melendez and Pratto all have sub .600 OPS's. In fact, looks like the only hitter doing much of anything is Kyle Isbel.

[sigmachi]

Somebody needs to get Royce Lewis some smelling salts where he will wake up ASAP! He's dreadful this season. Hope he gets it going like he did last year but dang

[StlScott]

Originally Posted by drstrader5

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. graduated off the list this weekend, meaning Fernando Tatis Jr. is the new No. 1 prospect in baseball for the time being. Both Eloy Jimenez and Nick Senzel also graduated, meaning the Top 10 has quite a different look to it.

Outfielders Jarren Duran (Red Sox) and Heliot Ramos (Giants) are the latest to slide into the rankings.

1 Fernando Tatis Jr.
2 Wander Franco
3 Jo Adell
100 Heliot Ramos

Cool of you to keep this updated...

Originally Posted by jeff24k

Is Wilmington an extreme pitcher's park? Matias, Melendez and Pratto all have sub .600 OPS's. In fact, looks like the only hitter doing much of anything is Kyle Isbel.

It is in fact a pitchers park. However, that doesn't matter if you have a hard time putting the ball in play.

[Lawmaker]

Originally Posted by jeff24k

Is Wilmington an extreme pitcher's park? Matias, Melendez and Pratto all have sub .600 OPS's. In fact, looks like the only hitter doing much of anything is Kyle Isbel.

one of the worst hitting parks in the minors

[drstrader5]

Originally Posted by Lawmaker

one of the worst hitting parks in the minors

What's crazy is the home/road splits aren't much different for Melendez, Pratto and Matias. All 3 of them batting under .170 doesn't seem possible.

[fenwaykid]

Originally Posted by sigmachi

Somebody needs to get Royce Lewis some smelling salts where he will wake up ASAP! He's dreadful this season. Hope he gets it going like he did last year but dang

He was hurt in spring training - perhaps he never fully healed? Have there been any articles published highlighting his struggles? Very curious.

[StlScott]

Originally Posted by drstrader5

What's crazy is the home/road splits aren't much different for Melendez, Pratto and Matias. All 3 of them batting under .170 doesn't seem possible.

Melendez seems to be coming around. 800 ops over the last couple of weeks.

[shayscards79]

Originally Posted by Shadowsonic2004

Two years of holding this guys cards has felt like a lot more.

What's the outlook on him? Is he going to be a two way player all the way into the majors?

[drstrader5]

Tatis and Canning off the list. Rolison and Gilbert added.

1 Wander Franco
2 Jo Adell
3 MacKenzie Gore
4 Forrest Whitley
5 Bo Bichette
6 Brendan Rodgers
7 Royce Lewis
8 Jesus Luzardo
9 Casey Mize
10 Austin Riley
11 Kyle Tucker
12 Alex Kirilloff
13 Keston Hiura
14 Sixto Sanchez
15 Joey Bart
16 Carter Kieboom
17 Keibert Ruiz
18 A.J. Puk
19 Michael Kopech
20 Gavin Lux
21 Yordan Alvarez
22 Luis Urias
23 Taylor Trammell
24 Mitch Keller
25 Brendan McKay
26 Jarred Kelenic
27 Dylan Cease
28 Matt Manning
29 Andres Gimenez
30 Nate Pearson
31 Ian Anderson
32 Brent Honeywell
33 Luis Robert
34 Ke'Bryan Hayes
35 Jonathan India
36 Francisco Mejia
37 DL Hall
38 Nolan Gorman
39 Alec Bohm
40 Brusdar Graterol
41 Dustin May
42 Adrian Morejon
43 Matthew Liberatore
44 Jordan Groshans
45 Luis Patino
46 Nico Hoerner
47 Jesus Sanchez
48 Cristian Pache
49 Justus Sheffield
50 Ronaldo Hernandez
51 Vidal Brujan
52 Nick Madrigal
53 Brady Singer
54 Drew Waters
55 Sean Murphy
56 Hans Crouse
57 Kyle Wright
58 Triston McKenzie
59 Hunter Greene
60 Grayson Rodriguez
61 Jon Duplantier
62 Dylan Carlson
63 Jazz Chisholm
64 Luis Garcia Nats
65 Tony Santillan
66 Corbin Martin
67 Oneil Cruz
68 Bryse Wilson
69 Spencer Howard
70 Nate Lowe
71 Elehuris Montero
72 Ryan Weathers
73 Nolan Jones
74 Ryan Mountcastle
75 Yusniel Diaz
76 Ronny Mauricio
77 Isaac Paredes
78 Will Smith
79 Josh Naylor
80 Logan Allen
81 Colton Welker
82 Tyler Freeman
83 Victor Victor Mesa
84 Jose Suarez
85 Kyle Muller
86 Eric Pardinho
87 Anthony Kay
88 William Contreras
89 Julio Rodriguez
90 Daniel Lynch
91 Deivi Garcia
92 Trevor Larnach
93 Zac Gallen
94 Jordan Balazovic
95 Brice Turang
96 Triston Casas
97 Jarren Duran
98 Heliot Ramos
99 Ryan Rolison
100 Logan Gilbert

[azbaseballfan]

Wow, Jo Adell at #2. It's sad that he probably won't ever see #1 because of Wander's age. This might ruffle some feathers but I think Adell will be the better player in the long run.

[oddstuff]

Originally Posted by drstrader5

Tatis and Canning off the list. Rolison and Gilbert added.

1 Wander Franco
2 Jo Adell
3 MacKenzie Gore
4 Forrest Whitley
5 Bo Bichette
6 Brendan Rodgers
7 Royce Lewis
8 Jesus Luzardo
9 Casey Mize
10 Austin Riley
11 Kyle Tucker
12 Alex Kirilloff
13 Keston Hiura
14 Sixto Sanchez
15 Joey Bart
16 Carter Kieboom
17 Keibert Ruiz
18 A.J. Puk
19 Michael Kopech
20 Gavin Lux
21 Yordan Alvarez
22 Luis Urias
23 Taylor Trammell
24 Mitch Keller
25 Brendan McKay
26 Jarred Kelenic
27 Dylan Cease
28 Matt Manning
29 Andres Gimenez
30 Nate Pearson
31 Ian Anderson
32 Brent Honeywell
33 Luis Robert
34 Ke'Bryan Hayes
35 Jonathan India
36 Francisco Mejia
37 DL Hall
38 Nolan Gorman
39 Alec Bohm
40 Brusdar Graterol
41 Dustin May
42 Adrian Morejon
43 Matthew Liberatore
44 Jordan Groshans
45 Luis Patino
46 Nico Hoerner
47 Jesus Sanchez
48 Cristian Pache
49 Justus Sheffield
50 Ronaldo Hernandez
51 Vidal Brujan
52 Nick Madrigal
53 Brady Singer
54 Drew Waters
55 Sean Murphy
56 Hans Crouse
57 Kyle Wright
58 Triston McKenzie
59 Hunter Greene
60 Grayson Rodriguez
61 Jon Duplantier
62 Dylan Carlson
63 Jazz Chisholm
64 Luis Garcia Nats
65 Tony Santillan
66 Corbin Martin
67 Oneil Cruz
68 Bryse Wilson
69 Spencer Howard
70 Nate Lowe
71 Elehuris Montero
72 Ryan Weathers
73 Nolan Jones
74 Ryan Mountcastle
75 Yusniel Diaz
76 Ronny Mauricio
77 Isaac Paredes
78 Will Smith
79 Josh Naylor
80 Logan Allen
81 Colton Welker
82 Tyler Freeman
83 Victor Victor Mesa
84 Jose Suarez
85 Kyle Muller
86 Eric Pardinho
87 Anthony Kay
88 William Contreras
89 Julio Rodriguez
90 Daniel Lynch
91 Deivi Garcia
92 Trevor Larnach
93 Zac Gallen
94 Jordan Balazovic
95 Brice Turang
96 Triston Casas
97 Jarren Duran
98 Heliot Ramos
99 Ryan Rolison
100 Logan Gilbert

Thank you for posting!

[ALBASKETBALL]

YES!!!!

2 Jo Adell
3 MacKenzie Gore

[3pt]

Royce Lewis has been struggling for months...Why is he still a top 10 prospect? Or why is struggling? Please help me. Thanks.

[awz50]

Originally Posted by azbaseballfan

Wow, Jo Adell at #2. It's sad that he probably won't ever see #1 because of Wander's age. This might ruffle some feathers but I think Adell will be the better player in the long run.

1000000% agree.

Much more advanced, more fluent swing and is a better defender

Needs to stay healthy though

[dasiegel]

BA won't give up on Whitley being a top 5er, lol. "Keep swinging Charlie, maybe you'll give em a cold" -Mighty Ducks.