BA Top 100 Prospects - June Update

[NewLondonWhaler]

Puk hasn’t pitched since 2017. He’s 24. Why is he on this list?


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[marterburn]

Originally Posted by NewLondonWhaler

Puk hasn’t pitched since 2017. He’s 24. Why is he on this list?


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Because he's a high ceiling prospect. You'll say the exact same thing about Kopech at this point next year by your rationale. Puk was developing just fine before, and he's expected to be back in game action this month. Honeywell is in the same boat age-wise and non-pitching-wise, except he's had a setback so he did slip more considerably.

[34JacktheRipper]

Originally Posted by Badgers0821

I know I’m bias but Luis Robert needs to be much higher in this list, he’s looking the the White Sox best prospect.

I’m not biased and he should be top 20


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[BlueJaysRockies]

Thanks for the list!

Here is a word document with whether they are recalled yet and if they are a pitcher. 45/100 are pitchers, so for my collecting purposes there are only 55 names to worry about. Hope this helps! Tried pasting it in, but it jumbles the format. Sorry to those that can't open file.

[Badgers0821]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

In yesterday's chat, KLaw thinks he could see the bigs this year.

I think that may be a stretch based on the Sox history of patience with their prospects but it wouldn't surprise me if he was starting opening day 2020.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by calculusdork

Thanks for posting!

Alvarez at #26 ... I don't know why I'm surprised. I don't know many people who would take, say, Kirilloff over Alvarez.

Also, pretty cool to see Zac Gallen get the bump!

It's funny you mention Kirilloff because at the start of the year I had him and Alvarez ranked right next to each other (#12 and #13 among position prospects) and used Alvarez to point out how overpriced Kirilloff was coming into the season.

Originally Posted by jeff24k

Thanks for posting - thought Heliot would jump on here but I guess the injury hurt his chances.

The lack of love for Heliot is bizarre. I had him pushing the top 50 coming into the year! I'm going to see him twice in July so will have a better look up close, but given his physicality and career performance it's just weird that BA doesn't have him in the top 100.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

The lack of love for Heliot is bizarre. I had him pushing the top 50 coming into the year! I'm going to see him twice in July so will have a better look up close, but given his physicality and career performance it's just weird that BA doesn't have him in the top 100.

I’m not following how he was pushing your top 50 before the year. After his year in the SAL I’m just not seeing how that is possible.

[jofinn36]

Kelenic defiantly has great numbers. I'd be curious why he was traded so quickly. He was drafted last year and was moved after a great rookie ball start. I'm not saying there is a problem with him I personally bought a Tatis jr. chrome auto last month and that is a White Sox card. Could just be the mets.

[marlinsmaniac20]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

I’m not following how he was pushing your top 50 before the year. After his year in the SAL I’m just not seeing how that is possible.

Sorry but a .245 avg and a .709 OPS in 2018 is not even remotely close to sniffing the top 100 let alone top 50.

[jeff24k]

Originally Posted by jofinn36

Kelenic defiantly has great numbers. I'd be curious why he was traded so quickly. He was drafted last year and was moved after a great rookie ball start. I'm not saying there is a problem with him I personally bought a Tatis jr. chrome auto last month and that is a White Sox card. Could just be the mets.

Hey the Mets got a HOF for him! That's all that matters. Hiring BVG as the GM is a move that will haunt that franchise for a LONG time.

[Orange October]

Nice to see Grayson Rodriguez make such a big jump. He's been having a great season. The development several pitchers have made at Frederick (Hall, Baumann, Knight, Sedlock) and Delmarva (Rodriguez, Peralta, Rom, Fenter) this year has probably been one of the biggest pluses for the Orioles farm this season. That, and drafting Adley Rutschman. Maybe they can have 6 top 100 prospects by the end of the year/beginning of next. Still a long, long, long way to go in a slow process though.

[fenwaykid]

Anyone concerned with Jazz Chisholm? I just took a look at his stats - he is really struggling in AA. The K #'s are horrific. Does he drop out of the top 100 by the end of the season entirely?

[AnthonyCorona]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Anyone concerned with Jazz Chisholm? I just took a look at his stats - he is really struggling in AA. The K #'s are horrific. Does he drop out of the top 100 by the end of the season entirely?

Glad his prices were too high for me because I was a believer last season after seeing him several times


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[marterburn]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Anyone concerned with Jazz Chisholm? I just took a look at his stats - he is really struggling in AA. The K #'s are horrific. Does he drop out of the top 100 by the end of the season entirely?

I wouldn't be overly concerned, but I could see a drop. But he has the following in his favor:

1. 6th youngest player in the Southern league on opening day.
2. The K% hasn't gone up a lot from last year in moving up a level.
3. BB% has gone up a lot.
4. HR numbers are still good.

He has turned into an extreme fly-ball hitter when he makes contact this year, which seems like it's lead to a lot of HR and not much else. Probably correctable to an extent, an I'd wager BA sees this.

[azbaseballfan]

Originally Posted by marterburn

I wouldn't be overly concerned, but I could see a drop. But he has the following in his favor:

1. 6th youngest player in the Southern league on opening day.
2. The K% hasn't gone up a lot from last year in moving up a level.
3. BB% has gone up a lot.
4. HR numbers are still good.

He has turned into an extreme fly-ball hitter when he makes contact this year, which seems like it's lead to a lot of HR and not much else. Probably correctable to an extent, an I'd wager BA sees this.

I don't own any cards because I can't justify paying current prices but as a fan of the Diamondbacks I'm a little bummed out by his performance so far. I think he will take more time than anticipated to develop his hit tool. He will make an impact some day in the big leagues, and he has an electric bat when he makes contact, but I think he is probably two years away still. I think his values will take a hit because most prospectors aren't patient enough to wait that long for a guy to develop.

[theflushingmets]

Couldn’t wait to sell my Jazz card at $40-$50 per over the winter with that K rate. Was buying them around $5 per. Cal league and fall league numbers plus that brutal k:bb ratio told me all I needed to know.

[PumpnDumpling]

AA Southern League is TOUGH, but has 75 K's in 187 AB's

The hype he had coming into this season should subside for now which may represent a buying opportunity for those who believe

(i am not in that crowd but you never know)

Still VERY Young so plenty of time to adapt and overcome

[PejaD]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Anyone concerned with Jazz Chisholm? I just took a look at his stats - he is really struggling in AA. The K #'s are horrific. Does he drop out of the top 100 by the end of the season entirely?

For all the hype last year, I came away pretty disappointed when I saw him in the Cal League. It seemed like a guys who has avg raw power at best with the mentality of a Joey Gallo. His approach will need to change and/or needs to get stronger.

[drstrader5]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Anyone concerned with Jazz Chisholm? I just took a look at his stats - he is really struggling in AA. The K #'s are horrific. Does he drop out of the top 100 by the end of the season entirely?

I want to say he'll drop off the list but I really don't think he will because he has 4 above average/Plus tools and he plays a premium position.

His ISO is really good and his walk rate has improved a lot. Obviously the K rate is terrible and his BABIP (.198) would indicate he hasn't been very lucky.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

I’m not following how he was pushing your top 50 before the year. After his year in the SAL I’m just not seeing how that is possible.

Originally Posted by marlinsmaniac20

Sorry but a .245 avg and a .709 OPS in 2018 is not even remotely close to sniffing the top 100 let alone top 50.

1) His SAL league numbers alone are borderline top 100 once you factor in age.
2) You can't just wash away his dominance of the AZL the year before.
3) Physicality. He had a major league body at 17, then sprouted up another inch or two in the offseason.

[Keyser Soze]

Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

AA Southern League is TOUGH, but has 75 K's in 187 AB's

The hype he had coming into this season should subside for now which may represent a buying opportunity for those who believe

(i am not in that crowd but you never know)

Still VERY Young so plenty of time to adapt and overcome

Seuly Matias: hold my beer

[drstrader5]

(6/5 UPDATE): Eloy Jimenez has graduated from the Top 100, meaning everyone bumps up a spot and Red Sox 1B Triston Casas enters at No. 100.

[34JacktheRipper]

Originally Posted by drstrader5

I want to say he'll drop off the list but I really don't think he will because he has 4 above average/Plus tools and he plays a premium position.



His ISO is really good and his walk rate has improved a lot. Obviously the K rate is terrible and his BABIP (.198) would indicate he hasn't been very lucky.

This. I don’t own any Jazz nor do I plan on buying any, but I think a lot of the negativity towards him based on his season is overblown. He’s kinda developing into a true 3 outcomes guy, but as a kid who can hit for power and be a good big league shortstop, there will be a market.


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[marlinsmaniac20]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

1) His SAL league numbers alone are borderline top 100 once you factor in age.
2) You can't just wash away his dominance of the AZL the year before.
3) Physicality. He had a major league body at 17, then sprouted up another inch or two in the offseason.

You're reaching in a pump attempt. Even the most liberal of lists don't have him in the top 100.

[Orange October]

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Seuly Matias: hold my beer

Seuly is still the king. 95 SOs in 184 ABs this season. He hasn't even been cranking homers this season either really.