LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged - Page 41

KhalDrogo · 12-15-2018, 09:48 PM

So BNC had #87 in 2013?

According to him...

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I stand by the fact, which I stated in a post from 2016, that I bought #74/99 as a BGS 9 from sohrob when I bought our his entire collection in 2014 and I did NOT have any knowledge of its prior history. I bought #87 in the same collection raw and graded it BGS 9 when I received it and I recall it being a clean card and didn’t appear trimmed to me. I graded it promptly and it graded BGS 9. I stand by the fact that I did not trim either of these cards or have any involvement with someone else trimming the cards.

So did he sell/trade it between 2013-2014 and then reacquire it, or did he send it off to get trimmed?

chuckerrrr · 12-15-2018, 10:35 PM

Wow! So Buy Nice Cards had the card in 2013 before it was trimmed??? With all the evidence and information on this thread its hard to think that Eric had nothing to do with or wasn't aware of the card being trimmed.

AbraCalabro · 12-15-2018, 10:37 PM

oh wow. Thank you for providing this information, buybuymj.

Look at the pic of 87 posted by buybuymj, then look at the pic posted by the OP, both of them have the rough edges. Then, also in the OP, you clearly see a pic of it graded as a 9 with the edges looking a lot better. If you bring up the attached image and then right click/view image, you will see it at full size. CLEARLY trimmed for a better grade. Holy sh%t.

BNC says he got the card in 2016 raw, (see 6BUX's

post with the quote above) looked clean and didn't look trimmed and it came back as a BGS 9...

Yet the picture provided by buybuymj shows it was in BNC's possession in 2013.

Did I get that right? ...or am I missing something?

rogermaris · 12-15-2018, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

oh wow. Thank you for providing this information, buybuymj.

Look at the pic of 87 posted by buybuymj, then look at the pic posted by the OP, both of them have the rough edges. Then, also in the OP, you clearly see a pic of it graded as a 9 with the edges looking a lot better. If you bring up the attached image and then right click/view image, you will see it at full size. CLEARLY trimmed for a better grade. Holy sh%t.

BNC says he got the card in 2016 raw, (see 6BUX's post with the quote above) looked clean and didn't look trimmed and it came back as a BGS 9...

Yet the picture provided by buybuymj shows it was in BNC's possession in 2013.

Did I get that right? ...or am I missing something?

That was the conclusion I drew as well.

AbraCalabro · 12-15-2018, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rogermaris

That was the conclusion I drew as well.

Ok, right on. I think we're starting to get a a clearer picture and it's looking like we were on the right track all along, but now I'm wondering what happened between 2013 and the card being graded a BGS 9. If he had it (87) in 2013, I'm not able to visualize how he would be unaware of it being trimmed. Even if he sold it in its original condition and reacquired it post-trimming, it's highly unlikely he would not notice it.

pingbling23 · 12-15-2018, 10:46 PM

how many times did he send it in for grading?

AbraCalabro · 12-15-2018, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

how many times did he send it in for grading?

Supposedly once. If you look at post 1001 at the top of this page, there is a quote from BNC's earlier post. You can find the entire post on page 26 if I remember correctly.

ozantoine · 12-15-2018, 10:54 PM

I think the mic has well and truly dropped now....

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the27guy · 12-15-2018, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

oh wow. Thank you for providing this information, buybuymj.

Look at the pic of 87 posted by buybuymj, then look at the pic posted by the OP, both of them have the rough edges. Then, also in the OP, you clearly see a pic of it graded as a 9 with the edges looking a lot better. If you bring up the attached image and then right click/view image, you will see it at full size. CLEARLY trimmed for a better grade. Holy sh%t.

BNC says he got the card in 2016 raw, (see 6BUX's

post with the quote above) looked clean and didn't look trimmed and it came back as a BGS 9...

Yet the picture provided by buybuymj shows it was in BNC's possession in 2013.

Did I get that right? ...or am I missing something?

This is the most damning piece of evidence posted yet and easily the biggest bombshell of the thread. Easily.

Thanks for walking me through this Abra. I’ve been so focused on the other card (from sohrob and jack) that I haven’t even really looked at this one.

I don’t know what the explanation is but I am here for it. Buybuymj, dude..... I get it. Thank you for posting!

pingbling23 · 12-15-2018, 11:08 PM

OP should really update his first post with all of the new info. oh yeah, he dropped this bombshell and hasnt logged on since....

SidVish · 12-15-2018, 11:11 PM

Oh man. buybuymj just dropped the bomb.

pingbling23 · 12-15-2018, 11:15 PM

wow, the bottom corners go from beat up to bgs 9.5 on the 87/99.

KhalDrogo · 12-15-2018, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the27guy

I don’t know what the explanation is but I am here for it. Buybuymj, dude..... I get it. Thank you for posting!

Explanation? There will be no explanation. BNC is a fraud.

theLUCKYshow · 12-15-2018, 11:22 PM

Thanks buybuymj amazing info!

But I thought Eric bought it in 2014 along w #74 and a bunch of other cards from Sohrob. How are we pinning this on him in 2013? Just catching up so I must've missed something.

Edit: ahh the buynicecards logo. Does he consign?

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pingbling23 · 12-15-2018, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingbling23

wow, the bottom corners go from beat up to bgs 9.5 on the 87/99.

the corners still look soft in the slab, not sure how it got a 9.5?

KhalDrogo · 12-15-2018, 11:26 PM

Looking on the Wayback Machine, BNC was offering #82, a BGS 9.5, for $130,000 in August 2015. Wonder if that one is trimmed too.

theLUCKYshow · 12-15-2018, 11:27 PM

.......

pingbling23 · 12-15-2018, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Looking on the Wayback Machine, BNC was offering #82, a BGS 9.5, for $130,000 in August 2015. Wonder if that one is trimmed too.

buybuymj, can you post all of the pics and info you have on this card?

theLUCKYshow · 12-15-2018, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Whoever the seller of #87 is, it appears the sale of that card in March of 2013 was to Sohrob. Sohrob then sold it to Eric raw in 2014. So where are we at?

Seller of #87 (2013): A BO member who's either OPs friend, or OP himself.
Buyer of #87 (2013): prob sohrob
Condition of #87: "rough around the edges" (see OPs pics)

Seller of #87 (2014): Sorhob (as part of a large lot but not his whole collection)
Buyer of #87 (2014): Eric. Was it all cash? Trade and cash? How many cards involved? We don't know.
Condition of #87: Unknown. Eric says it didn't appear trimmed to him. He also said he promptly graded the card but he was later splummed when it was shown he graded it a year later.

#87 graded by Eric in 2015 comes back a BGS 9. Photos indicate cards have been trimmed. (See OPs picks)

Trimming suspects: Sorhob, Sorhobs guy, Eric, Eric's guy

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Bump.

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theLUCKYshow · 12-15-2018, 11:31 PM

I had speculated that OP or his friend had sold the card to Sohrob in 2013 but it could've been Eric too. I've also heard Sohrob and Eric are or were pretty good friends. Could Sohrob have been using buynicecards logo on his card?

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KhalDrogo · 12-15-2018, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Looking on the Wayback Machine, BNC was offering #82, a BGS 9.5, for $130,000 in August 2015. Wonder if that one is trimmed too.

Had #13 raw available for trade in April 2015.

KhalDrogo · 12-15-2018, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

I had speculated that OP or his friend had sold the card to Sohrob in 2013 but it could've been Eric too. I've also heard Sohrob and Eric are or were pretty good friends. Could Sohrob have been using buynicecards logo on his card?

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That would be hilarious considering this:

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3. I take all of my own photos and copyright them because on probably about 5+ difference occasions people have gone in and taken my photos and opened their own ebay store with my photos and listed my cards at higher prices than my asking prices. Copyrighting them was the only idea I could think to do to try to prevent this from happening. But I realize that once an image is on the web somewhere its hard to really do much to protect

pingbling23 · 12-15-2018, 11:40 PM

is this also eric's or does he sell for others?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/03-04-Lebro...cc9y:rk:3:pf:0

theLUCKYshow · 12-15-2018, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

That would be hilarious considering this:

True but I see gslayton uses card stands with a buynicecards logo on it, and they're friends.

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theLUCKYshow · 12-16-2018, 12:15 AM

The obvious question to ask OP is if he knows who #87 was sold to back in March of 2013 on these boards.

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12-15-2018, 10:37 PM	#1003
AbraCalabro Temporarily Suspended Join Date: May 2013 Location: Believe in Saint Abra. Posts: 10,748	oh wow. Thank you for providing this information, buybuymj. Look at the pic of 87 posted by buybuymj, then look at the pic posted by the OP, both of them have the rough edges. Then, also in the OP, you clearly see a pic of it graded as a 9 with the edges looking a lot better. If you bring up the attached image and then right click/view image, you will see it at full size. CLEARLY trimmed for a better grade. Holy sh%t. BNC says he got the card in 2016 raw, (see 6BUX's post with the quote above) looked clean and didn't look trimmed and it came back as a BGS 9... Yet the picture provided by buybuymj shows it was in BNC's possession in 2013. Did I get that right? ...or am I missing something? __________________ -FREE TRISTAN- LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged - A master class in corruption. NEVER FORGET: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1255123

12-15-2018, 11:11 PM	#1011
SidVish Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,231	Oh man. buybuymj just dropped the bomb. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/143795381@N02/albums Last edited by SidVish; 12-15-2018 at 11:15 PM.

12-15-2018, 11:22 PM	#1014
theLUCKYshow Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 5,455 theluckshow	Thanks buybuymj amazing info! But I thought Eric bought it in 2014 along w #74 and a bunch of other cards from Sohrob. How are we pinning this on him in 2013? Just catching up so I must've missed something. Edit: ahh the buynicecards logo. Does he consign? Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk __________________ Always looking for high end Harry Giles AKA the Future

12-15-2018, 11:27 PM	#1017
theLUCKYshow Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 5,455 theluckshow	....... __________________ Always looking for high end Harry Giles AKA the Future

12-15-2018, 11:31 PM	#1020
theLUCKYshow Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 5,455 theluckshow	I had speculated that OP or his friend had sold the card to Sohrob in 2013 but it could've been Eric too. I've also heard Sohrob and Eric are or were pretty good friends. Could Sohrob have been using buynicecards logo on his card? Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk __________________ Always looking for high end Harry Giles AKA the Future

12-15-2018, 10:35 PM	#1002
chuckerrrr Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Georgetown TX Posts: 3,445 charger21	Wow! So Buy Nice Cards had the card in 2013 before it was trimmed??? With all the evidence and information on this thread its hard to think that Eric had nothing to do with or wasn't aware of the card being trimmed.

12-15-2018, 10:46 PM	#1006
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16,023	how many times did he send it in for grading?

12-15-2018, 10:54 PM	#1008
ozantoine Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 182 gtautospares jdmspares	I think the mic has well and truly dropped now.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-15-2018, 11:08 PM	#1010
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16,023	OP should really update his first post with all of the new info. oh yeah, he dropped this bombshell and hasnt logged on since....

12-15-2018, 11:15 PM	#1012
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16,023	wow, the bottom corners go from beat up to bgs 9.5 on the 87/99.

12-15-2018, 11:26 PM	#1016
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,514	Looking on the Wayback Machine, BNC was offering #82, a BGS 9.5, for $130,000 in August 2015. Wonder if that one is trimmed too.

12-15-2018, 11:40 PM	#1023
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16,023	is this also eric's or does he sell for others? https://www.ebay.com/itm/03-04-Lebro...cc9y:rk:3:pf:0

12-16-2018, 12:15 AM	#1025
theLUCKYshow Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 5,455 theluckshow	The obvious question to ask OP is if he knows who #87 was sold to back in March of 2013 on these boards. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk __________________ Always looking for high end Harry Giles AKA the Future