NBA Trade Rumors Thread- I Love this junk - Page 21

oldgoldy97 · 02-23-2017, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by King44

I was just stating that even though Doug doesn't have great 3pt numbers, he still has better numbers than any of the 3 okc players this year.

And my second point was that Taj is better than any of the players in the entire deal.

It appeared you were being sarcastic about Doug, as if okc made a bad move.

Au contraire. Good move.

King44 · 02-23-2017, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Au contraire. Good move.

got ya. agreed. i will root for okc.

Ottomatic · 02-23-2017, 05:02 PM

Quiet deadline day, usually how it turns out.

Excited that the Thunder got Russ to legit rotation players. Raptors look like 2nd best team in East. Celtics remain dangerous as FA/trade players going into the summer...

Bring on Boogie/AD tonight!

SteveO21 · 02-23-2017, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

I'm convinced a lot of the hype around trade deadline was all a ploy by Woj to drive viewers to his twitter page and The Vertical.

the27guy · 02-23-2017, 05:33 PM

Deron officially waived.

13.1 points and 6.9 assists and waived.. man. Tough life in the NBA. Seems like a perfect fir for Cleveland. If they can land Bogut and DWill.... that's just unfair.

asujbl · 02-23-2017, 06:59 PM

Williams is going to Cleveland. That's a lock.

the27guy · 02-23-2017, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Williams is going to Cleveland. That's a lock.

Hold your horses...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...situation.html

asujbl · 02-23-2017, 07:01 PM

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)
2/23/17, 5:35 PM
Multiple teams interested in Deron Williams tell ESPN they believe Williams has already decided to join Cleveland upon clearing waivers

CubKings · 02-23-2017, 07:02 PM

Even though Payne sucks, this leaves OKC without a backup PG. only other one on their roster is Christon, who never plays.

asujbl · 02-23-2017, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the27guy

Hold your horses...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...situation.html

I know how it works

Everyone expects him to clear. If he doesn't? It'd be a shock.

the27guy · 02-23-2017, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)
2/23/17, 5:35 PM
Multiple teams interested in Deron Williams tell ESPN they believe Williams has already decided to join Cleveland upon clearing waivers

But he has to clear waivers first....

A team can claim him whether he likes that or not.

Edit: Started wrtigin this while you posted your last reply.

See Utah and Denver. Those are the only two hurdles.

asujbl · 02-23-2017, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by the27guy

But he has to clear waivers first....

A team can claim him whether he likes that or not.

Clearly. Everyone knows this. Everyone expects him to clear.

the27guy · 02-23-2017, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Clearly. Everyone knows this. Everyone expects him to clear.

Well, maybe "everyone" is right...

But I'd add this. The Jazz are below the floor - not just the cap. Signing Deron is literally close to FREE for them.

It would cost them a net of $600k for the rest of the season.

Given The George Hill injury stuff.... this might not be a slam dunk for your Cavs.

asujbl · 02-23-2017, 07:09 PM

All I'm saying is everyone expects him to clear and when he does he is a Cleveland lock.

If he doesn't clear? Then the rules are the rules

the27guy · 02-23-2017, 07:13 PM

Sorry... did the math wrong....

Albert Nahmad @AlbertRandom1
about 21 minutes ago
If Jazz were to claim Deron Williams, they’d owe him $2.4M and avoid $4.2M in floor payments. That's $1.8M savings.

Meaning that signing Deron actually gives the team $1.8m.

People calling this a "formality" don't understand the landscape. Some guys clearing waivers are a formality, but if I'm Denver or Utah, it makes almost too much sense to claim him.

IamRalpho · 02-23-2017, 07:15 PM

I know its a different regime, but would the Jazz really want Williams back? He was kinda a douche there.

And also, he really isnt that great. He fits fine on the Cavs but would the Jazz really wanna bring in his nonsense just to F with a team they wont even see in the playoffs?

asujbl · 02-23-2017, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the27guy

Sorry... did the math wrong....

Albert Nahmad @AlbertRandom1
about 21 minutes ago
If Jazz were to claim Deron Williams, they’d owe him $2.4M and avoid $4.2M in floor payments. That's $1.8M savings.

Meaning that signing Deron actually gives the team $1.8m.

People calling this a "formality" don't understand the landscape. Some guys clearing waivers are a formality, but if I'm Denver or Utah, it makes almost too much sense to claim him.

It's entirely possible that happens. If it does it does. There are also cheaper ways to get to the floor.

It will be interesting

the27guy · 02-23-2017, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by IamRalpho

I know its a different regime, but would the Jazz really want Williams back? He was kinda a douche there.

And also, he really isnt that great. He fits fine on the Cavs but would the Jazz really wanna bring in his nonsense just to F with a team they wont even see in the playoffs?

I don't know. Good questions. Absolutely.

But I mean, he's a 13 and 7 guy this year... and if Hill gets hurt - which he has been half of this season - it gives us someone more dependable - when healthy - then Exum is at this point.

asujbl · 02-23-2017, 07:49 PM

The real question is do you sign a guy, that clearly doesn't want to be there, just because you can? You aren't winning anything regardless.

I get the dollars but you can handle that any number of ways

It's do you bring in a 32 year old veteran, that didn't necessarily leave on good terms before, just because.

I'd still be floored if he didn't clear... but we shall see

Kingofkings1281 · 02-23-2017, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

The real question is do you sign a guy, that clearly doesn't want to be there, just because you can? You aren't winning anything regardless.

I get the dollars but you can handle that any number of ways

It's do you bring in a 32 year old veteran, that didn't necessarily leave on good terms before, just because.

I'd still be floored if he didn't clear... but we shall see

That's the only real question. Do you want to sign a guy that doesn't want to play for your team? I wouldn't. I fully expect him to clear waivers and sign with the Cavs.

IamRalpho · 02-23-2017, 08:00 PM

If this was the Celtics or Raptors I would think they might screw with the Cavs....but a Western conference team?

the27guy · 02-23-2017, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IamRalpho

If this was the Celtics or Raptors I would think they might screw with the Cavs....but a Western conference team?

We need a guy like deron. May make the difference between winning and losing a series. And again, signing him actually SAVES he jazz nearly $2m by getting them to the floor.

asujbl · 02-23-2017, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by the27guy

We need a guy like deron. May make the difference between winning and losing a series. And again, signing him actually SAVES he jazz nearly $2m by getting them to the floor.

There are easy ways around that though as opposed to signing an old guy that wants to go somewhere else... if you believe reports obviously

Unless he actually helps you win something meaningful? Spend your money elsewhere. Williams won't be the only guy available.

asujbl · 02-23-2017, 08:31 PM

Nothing new. Same info. Just posting.

Deron Williams Is Planning To Join The Cleveland Cavaliers | The Big Lead

the27guy · 02-23-2017, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

There are easy ways around that though as opposed to signing an old guy that wants to go somewhere else... if you believe reports obviously

Unless he actually helps you win something meaningful? Spend your money elsewhere. Williams won't be the only guy available.

Give me an example of somebody else who helps us and gets us to the floor for cheaper.

I'd also say that in the past few days a few local guys have mentioned that deron has spoken to them about wanting to "right the wrongs" that he made while here. I'm sure he'd rather have a chance at a ring, but given that he still lives here and his relationship with a lot of the local guys, I wouldn't be shocked if we were number 2.

02-23-2017, 05:33 PM	#505
the27guy Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 14,671 the27guy the27guy	Deron officially waived. 13.1 points and 6.9 assists and waived.. man. Tough life in the NBA. Seems like a perfect fir for Cleveland. If they can land Bogut and DWill.... that's just unfair. __________________ @thereal27guy Founder of Basketball Card Fanatic Magazine

02-23-2017, 06:59 PM	#506
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,413 ohiosundevils	Williams is going to Cleveland. That's a lock. __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

02-23-2017, 07:01 PM	#508
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,413 ohiosundevils	Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) 2/23/17, 5:35 PM Multiple teams interested in Deron Williams tell ESPN they believe Williams has already decided to join Cleveland upon clearing waivers __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

02-23-2017, 07:02 PM	#509
CubKings Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 6,518	Even though Payne sucks, this leaves OKC without a backup PG. only other one on their roster is Christon, who never plays. __________________ NBA: Marbury, Jordan, Kobe, Westbrook, KD, AI, Jazz MLB: Chicago Cubs, Stanton, Aramis Ramirez, Sosa NFL: Minnesota Vikings, Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson https://sportscardalbum.com/u/cublife

02-23-2017, 07:09 PM	#514
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,413 ohiosundevils	All I'm saying is everyone expects him to clear and when he does he is a Cleveland lock. If he doesn't clear? Then the rules are the rules __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

02-23-2017, 05:02 PM	#503
Ottomatic Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 4,141 Ottomatic	Quiet deadline day, usually how it turns out. Excited that the Thunder got Russ to legit rotation players. Raptors look like 2nd best team in East. Celtics remain dangerous as FA/trade players going into the summer... Bring on Boogie/AD tonight!

02-23-2017, 07:13 PM	#515
the27guy Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 14,671 the27guy the27guy	Sorry... did the math wrong.... Albert Nahmad @AlbertRandom1 about 21 minutes ago If Jazz were to claim Deron Williams, they’d owe him $2.4M and avoid $4.2M in floor payments. That's $1.8M savings. Meaning that signing Deron actually gives the team $1.8m. People calling this a "formality" don't understand the landscape. Some guys clearing waivers are a formality, but if I'm Denver or Utah, it makes almost too much sense to claim him. __________________ @thereal27guy Founder of Basketball Card Fanatic Magazine

02-23-2017, 07:15 PM	#516
IamRalpho Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 17,693 IamSilly	I know its a different regime, but would the Jazz really want Williams back? He was kinda a douche there. And also, he really isnt that great. He fits fine on the Cavs but would the Jazz really wanna bring in his nonsense just to F with a team they wont even see in the playoffs? __________________ If you have under 25 iTrader feedback or any negative, I will ask you to send first I do not ask for much, but please leave feedback if everything goes well with our deal.

02-23-2017, 07:49 PM	#519
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,413 ohiosundevils	The real question is do you sign a guy, that clearly doesn't want to be there, just because you can? You aren't winning anything regardless. I get the dollars but you can handle that any number of ways It's do you bring in a 32 year old veteran, that didn't necessarily leave on good terms before, just because. I'd still be floored if he didn't clear... but we shall see __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

02-23-2017, 08:00 PM	#521
IamRalpho Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 17,693 IamSilly	If this was the Celtics or Raptors I would think they might screw with the Cavs....but a Western conference team? __________________ If you have under 25 iTrader feedback or any negative, I will ask you to send first I do not ask for much, but please leave feedback if everything goes well with our deal.

02-23-2017, 08:31 PM	#524
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,413 ohiosundevils	Nothing new. Same info. Just posting. Deron Williams Is Planning To Join The Cleveland Cavaliers \| The Big Lead __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”