NBA Trade Rumors Thread- I Love this junk

[sportzluvr1]

I eat this stuff up

-All the speculation of big trades that usually never happen.

-Finding out which front offices really believe their team has the nuts to compete with the big boys in the post-season and teams who are just good enough to not have a shot at a deep run or lottery pick and therefore have to make a move to tip the scales either way (Atlanta, I'm looking at you).



One big proposal: If I'm the Thunder, I'm seeing if I can dangle Sabonis out there in front of the Hawks as the centerpiece for a Millsap trade. Now I wouldn't give up much more than that, as I believe Sabonis is going to be a real player for a long time, but it looks like that's about what it's going to take for the Hawks to give him up.
For OKC, a starting 5 of Westbrook-Oladipo-roberson-Millsap-Adams can do some things in the playoffs. Aside from shooting, he's exactly what they need as a big that can add some scoring at the 4. And if you're Atlanta, you've already indicated you're going more toward the rebuilding stages rather than trying to compete. With Schroeder, Prince, Sabonis, and the high pick they bring in next year, you have a solid core of young, skilled players that can help guide the organization toward the future. Hey, maybe they're taking the ole' Magic model when they made Dwight the nucleus of the offense and put pieces around him?

What moves do you guys want to see happen?

[mhcubsfan]

Either the bulls don't trade their best player in Jimmy butler. Or trade him for jaylen brown, 1st round pick (nets one) and another player. Absolutely love Jimmy butler but our team ain't winning jack unless we change something.

[longbomberz]

Originally Posted by sportzluvr1

I eat this stuff up

-All the speculation of big trades that usually never happen.

-Finding out which front offices really believe their team has the nuts to compete with the big boys in the post-season and teams who are just good enough to not have a shot at a deep run or lottery pick and therefore have to make a move to tip the scales either way (Atlanta, I'm looking at you).



One big proposal: If I'm the Thunder, I'm seeing if I can dangle Sabonis out there in front of the Hawks as the centerpiece for a Millsap trade. Now I wouldn't give up much more than that, as I believe Sabonis is going to be a real player for a long time, but it looks like that's about what it's going to take for the Hawks to give him up.
For OKC, a starting 5 of Westbrook-Oladipo-roberson-Millsap-Adams can do some things in the playoffs. Aside from shooting, he's exactly what they need as a big that can add some scoring at the 4. And if you're Atlanta, you've already indicated you're going more toward the rebuilding stages rather than trying to compete. With Schroeder, Prince, Sabonis, and the high pick they bring in next year, you have a solid core of young, skilled players that can help guide the organization toward the future. Hey, maybe they're taking the ole' Magic model when they made Dwight the nucleus of the offense and put pieces around him?

What moves do you guys want to see happen?

I think the trade market for Millsap is going to be tough because he's a UFA after the season and is likely going to want 4/140 or whatever his max is going to be. I don't see any way the Thunder would want/be able to pay that.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by mhcubsfan

Either the bulls don't trade their best player in Jimmy butler. Or trade him for jaylen brown, 1st round pick (nets one) and another player. Absolutely love Jimmy butler but our team ain't winning jack unless we change something.

Get rid of Wade before Jimmy!

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by longbomberz

I think the trade market for Millsap is going to be tough because he's a UFA after the season and is likely going to want 4/140 or whatever his max is going to be. I don't see any way the Thunder would want/be able to pay that.

Millsap is a top 25-30 player in the league. I know he's an UFA, but having his bird rights is valuable. I'd argue that unless you think sabonis is going to be pretty decent that this isn't necessarily enough.

But I hear you about what he'll command. The market is definitely tough.

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by mhcubsfan

Either the bulls don't trade their best player in Jimmy butler. Or trade him for jaylen brown, 1st round pick (nets one) and another player. Absolutely love Jimmy butler but our team ain't winning jack unless we change something.

That's a lot! I know he's REALLY good. But basically two top three picks and more? I think that's too much.

[sportzluvr1]

I'm just not sure you can afford to allow Sabonis to get a few years of seasoning when you're sandwiched into the middle of Russ' prime years. Millsap and Adams would be a terror down low.

[mhcubsfan]

Originally Posted by the27guy

That's a lot! I know he's REALLY good. But basically two top three picks and more? I think that's too much.

Yes I know. But Jimmy is a top 15 player in the league. Only way I'd move Jimmy tbh

[spurs50fan]

This is where the number of contenders get cut in half

Can't believe some of the big names I've seen thrown around. Interesting, none for my fave team but they made a lot of off season moves.

[mhcubsfan]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Get rid of Wade before Jimmy!

Wade has a year left after this season. Really is no point. No one wants him. Now we need to move Rondo first.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by the27guy

That's a lot! I know he's REALLY good. But basically two top three picks and more? I think that's too much.

Top 5 player, You won't see anyone else of his caliber available near the deadline.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by the27guy

That's a lot! I know he's REALLY good. But basically two top three picks and more? I think that's too much.

The rest would basically be filler. So, it would be Jaylen Brown (a reach at 3 on what it looks like the worst draft in the last 10 years) and Brooklyn's pick, which, if you are very lucky, would end up being as good as...Jimmy Butler.

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Top 5 player, You won't see anyone else of his caliber available near the deadline.

Top 5 of what? His position? You don't think he a top 5 player in the league, do you?

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

The rest would basically be filler. So, it would be Jaylen Brown (a reach at 3 on what it looks like the worst draft in the last 10 years) and Brooklyn's pick, which, if you are very lucky, would end up being as good as...Jimmy Butler.

I agree with that logic. But this draft is looking pretty good. And the celtics seem to really like brown. You've gotta look at who the top 3 picks are to see if any have top 5 in the league kinda potential. If they do, it's hard to part with that pick.

But I get it. Jimmy is GOOD. Would love it if the jazz could get him without trading gobert or Hayward. But even though the jazz have a ton of assets, they can't offer anything better than that Boston package.

[sportzluvr1]

Originally Posted by the27guy

Top 5 of what? His position? You don't think he a top 5 player in the league, do you?

Wiggins for Butler, Butler for Wiggins RIGHT NOW. Yes or No Wolves fans? Before the season it was mostly "No thanks" due to Wiggins untapped potential. Has that changed at all?

Butler just turned 27 in September....That's a solid 5 year window starting next year with Lavine, JB, and Towns, etc. If Thibs stays, maybe Jimmy can help get the young pups to buy in to his harsh coaching style.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by the27guy

I agree with that logic. But this draft is looking pretty good. And the celtics seem to really like brown. You've gotta look at who the top 3 picks are to see if any have top 5 in the league kinda potential. If they do, it's hard to part with that pick.

But I get it. Jimmy is GOOD. Would love it if the jazz could get him without trading gobert or Hayward. But even though the jazz have a ton of assets, they can't offer anything better than that Boston package.

The way I see it, the two best players of the draft are franchise players and the 3rd and 4th should be bonafide All-Stars. Now. let's say the Celtics get the number 1 pick in this draft.

Will you bet on the #1 pick having a better career than Jimmy? I would say it should be expected, at least, for him to be as good. Sure. But as a team who is so close to contention, would you bet on it?

Also, look at the last Celtics picks. Young. Smart. Rozier. Hunter. Mickey. Brown. Some are good, solid rotation players - some are even out of the league. The best player out of that group doesn't even project to be a good starter on a championship team.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by sportzluvr1

Wiggins for Butler, Butler for Wiggins RIGHT NOW. Yes or No Wolves fans? Before the season it was mostly "No thanks" due to Wiggins untapped potential. Has that changed at all?

Butler just turned 27 in September....That's a solid 5 year window starting next year with Lavine, JB, and Towns, etc. If Thibs stays, maybe Jimmy can help get the young pups to buy in to his harsh coaching style.

Bulls fans: NO

[adavis3232]

Originally Posted by sportzluvr1

I eat this stuff up

-All the speculation of big trades that usually never happen.

-Finding out which front offices really believe their team has the nuts to compete with the big boys in the post-season and teams who are just good enough to not have a shot at a deep run or lottery pick and therefore have to make a move to tip the scales either way (Atlanta, I'm looking at you).



One big proposal: If I'm the Thunder, I'm seeing if I can dangle Sabonis out there in front of the Hawks as the centerpiece for a Millsap trade. Now I wouldn't give up much more than that, as I believe Sabonis is going to be a real player for a long time, but it looks like that's about what it's going to take for the Hawks to give him up.
For OKC, a starting 5 of Westbrook-Oladipo-roberson-Millsap-Adams can do some things in the playoffs. Aside from shooting, he's exactly what they need as a big that can add some scoring at the 4. And if you're Atlanta, you've already indicated you're going more toward the rebuilding stages rather than trying to compete. With Schroeder, Prince, Sabonis, and the high pick they bring in next year, you have a solid core of young, skilled players that can help guide the organization toward the future. Hey, maybe they're taking the ole' Magic model when they made Dwight the nucleus of the offense and put pieces around him?

What moves do you guys want to see happen?

I live in OKC and I can tell you with pretty good certainty that the Thunder would not move Sabonis for Millsap. The Thunder really like Millsap and actually tried to sign him when he was a free agent a few years ago, but they absolutely love Sabonis. Millsap being a free agent after this year is a total deal breaker for the Thunder. The rumor that we have been hearing about is the ridiculous Cameron Payne to the Kings for Rudy Gay. I absolutely don't want the Thunder to make that deal.

[minnesotachill]

The Wolves top priority needs to be moving Rubio.

Bulls would want way too much for Butler. I don't see this ever happening.

I will take Wiggins' 10 year window over Butler's 5 year window any day.

[sportzluvr1]

Originally Posted by adavis3232

I live in OKC and I can tell you with pretty good certainty that the Thunder would not move Sabonis for Millsap. The Thunder really like Millsap and actually tried to sign him when he was a free agent a few years ago, but they absolutely love Sabonis. Millsap being a free agent after this year is a total deal breaker for the Thunder. The rumor that we have been hearing about is the ridiculous Cameron Payne to the Kings for Rudy Gay. I absolutely don't want the Thunder to make that deal.

I'm not a big Rudy Gay fan neither but I'd do that deal. You need another go-to offensive weapon. Gay would help Westbrook immensely the 3 every 5 games he actually tries in. A lot less pressure on Roberson to contribute offensively and continue his role as the long, atheltic defensive stopper that he is (nicest way I can call somebody a one-trick pony but it's true). A starting 5 of Russ-Dipo-Roberson-Gay-Adams looks pretty well-rounded in my book. And with Westbrooks drive and determination, anything can happen come playoff time. Strengthens your bench as well by moving Sabonis to the backup 4.

[sportzluvr1]

Originally Posted by minnesotachill

The Wolves top priority needs to be moving Rubio.

Bulls would want way too much for Butler. I don't see this ever happening.

I will take Wiggins' 10 year window over Butler's 5 year window any day.

It's the NBA. It's sucks but injuries happen. How far down the road can you look? Wouldn't you take the 5 year window and figure things out after? We're talking the 5 best years of a borderline-superstar player who is a beast on both ends of the floor and is an Alpha. And, hey, it's not like Butler will be an old man after those 5 years; he'll be 32. By that time it'll be Kat's team and I don't think Butler's age will change that.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by the27guy

Top 5 of what? His position? You don't think he a top 5 player in the league, do you?

20-25 point scorer and elite defense. Yes top 5 in the league.

[JasonM32]

Jimmy Butler is one of the top players in the league and a guy who is great on both ends of the floor. No way I would let him go.

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

20-25 point scorer and elite defense. Yes top 5 in the league.

Don't get me wrong. I really like the guy. But a top 5 player leads his team to a better record than 8th in the east. I can get on board with 11-13. But jimmy butler is not currently a top 5 player in the NBA.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by the27guy

Don't get me wrong. I really like the guy. But a top 5 player leads his team to a better record than 8th in the east. I can get on board with 11-13. But jimmy butler is not currently a top 5 player in the NBA.

Bulls beat Cavs, Hornets, Raptors this week BECAUSE of Butler.