2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[mikestrick]

Originally Posted by HillbillyCletus

Just on this message board alone, you can sense that Hillary supporters aren't too confident anymore...

Not all supporters are worried. I support Hillary and even though I think the race is a little closer than it was a couple of weeks ago I still think she wins the electoral college 308-230. I remember 2012 when the media was saying it was a dead heat between Obama and Romney a week out. Obama ended up winning by 3.9%. Hell, Karl Rove was trying to convince people that Romney was still going to win even after the race had been called.

[NeedChapmans]

Polls have gone crazy.

Trump -12 in VA last month, now +3 in today's poll. S&P down 8 days in a row, it's anyone's guess what happens on Tuesday.

http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Ham...-Investigation

[duwal]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

I would love to agree. However there are millions of people out there not very smart. They are not even voting for the candidate that actually helps them and their families.

They are voting against Trump more than anything else.

The thought of Clinton winning is horrifying.

But you can say the bold part about the majority of Trump voters too who believe that he is somehow going to make a chance for the better instead of in the wrong direction both with foreign affairs and the economy. Trump seems even more self-obsessed to look out for himself rather than the American people

[timber09]

Originally Posted by calculusdork

I think California displays the biggest failure of the (modern) Electoral College. 55 votes that will always go Democrat (20% of the required number!!!), and almost the entire north half of the state is Republican.

Does San Francisco count as the north half?

[duwal]

Originally Posted by timber09

Does San Francisco count as the north half?

yes, it is

[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by timber09

Does San Francisco count as the north half?

Originally Posted by duwal

yes, it is

Obviously it's not a perfect line, but more something like this:

[mikestrick]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Polls have gone crazy.

Trump -12 in VA last month, now +3 in today's poll. S&P down 8 days in a row, it's anyone's guess what happens on Tuesday.

http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Ham...-Investigation

I would have to say that is an outlier poll because there have been 6 polls since that one was done that have Clinton +6, +4, +4, +10, +5, +10. There have been 74 polls in Virginia since November of last year and Trump was in the lead in only 4 of them.

[timber09]

Originally Posted by calculusdork

Obviously it's not a perfect line, but more something like this:

Isn't this a basic premise of the current state of politics?

Republicans own the huge land masses where no one lives while Democrats generally perform better in urban centers?

So yeah, there is a lot of dirt in that footprint but not a lot of humans.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by duwal

But you can say the bold part about the majority of Trump voters too who believe that he is somehow going to make a chance for the better instead of in the wrong direction both with foreign affairs and the economy. Trump seems even more self-obsessed to look out for himself rather than the American people

Trump's intentions for the country are better than hers and that isn't debatable.

If you spent any time reading these emails you would see this as clear as day.

She has taken so much money from bad people with bad intentions and given favors to those scumbags that it's frightening to think about what she would do with the power of the presidency. She is for sale to anyone with a big bank account.

Trump can not be bought. This is why he's the clear choice. She is a bought and paid for. EVERY single word she says is rehearsed. She doesn't care about the people of this country. Read the emails. We are sheep and #'s. Nothing more.

And once more.. She is NOT a democrat or progressive. I have no idea how she got on their ticket. She did not support gay marriage until 2013!

The fact that she wants to keep and "tweak" Obamacare should have millions of people running for the hills.

It's ignorant at this point to vote for her.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mikestrick

I would have to say that is an outlier poll because there have been 6 polls since that one was done that have Clinton +6, +4, +4, +10, +5, +10. There have been 74 polls in Virginia since November of last year and Trump was in the lead in only 4 of them.

Could be. But point is that the polls have been all over the place, CNN had Trump +6 today while a poll released an hour later had Clinton +5.

Nobody knows.

[zachtruitt]

Aggregate poll data. That's the only thing that matters other than the actual vote count on November 8th.

[Timmay]

Turns out the FBI may be the Wikileaks source.
BREAKING!!! Watch NOW... This is REAL (VIDEO) Folks.. .. FBI is Quietly Releasing Documents Via Julian Assange and Wikileaks. A Counter Coup to the Clinton Attack is Happening NOW!!! • TD Newswire

[timber09]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Trump's intentions for the country are better than hers and that isn't debatable.

It is debatable.

They had three of them where they squared off against each other.

It is a debate that has continued for hundreds of pages and thousands of posts on this forum alone. It is a debate that is raging in the media, in offices, at cocktail parties and the like all over this country as it has for months.

It is also a significant stretch to call those that have differing opinions, priorities or viewpoints than yours "ignorant".

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by Timmay

Turns out the FBI may be the Wikileaks source.
BREAKING!!! Watch NOW... This is REAL (VIDEO) Folks.. .. FBI is Quietly Releasing Documents Via Julian Assange and Wikileaks. A Counter Coup to the Clinton Attack is Happening NOW!!! • TD Newswire

This past week has been surreal. Hard to know what to believe from either side. Coups, spray painting burnt out churches, cover ups, polls, editorials and the like. I have a feeling next week will make this week pale in comparison. Fasten your seatbelts yall.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by timber09

It is debatable.

They had three of them where they squared off against each other.

It is a debate that has continued for hundreds of pages and thousands of posts on this forum alone. It is a debate that is raging in the media, in offices, at cocktail parties and the like all over this country as it has for months.

It is also a significant stretch to call those that have differing opinions, priorities or viewpoints than yours "ignorant".

I have tried this with everyone like you here before. I'll try it again.

What, specifically, do you like about Clinton? Policy wise only. I still have not heard an argument other than she's experienced and she isn't Trump.

[jewcer2k5]

Idk who is worse. Wolf Blitzer or Hannity. Can't watch more than a minute of either.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

This past week has been surreal. Hard to know what to believe from either side. Coups, spray painting burnt out churches, cover ups, polls, editorials and the like. I have a feeling next week will make this week pale in comparison. Fasten your seatbelts yall.

It's all due to the WEINER!

[timber09]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

I have tried this with everyone like you here before. I'll try it again.

What, specifically, do you like about Clinton? Policy wise only. I still have not heard an argument other than she's experienced and she isn't Trump.

Her tax plan is sustainable, achievable and actually a benefit.

Her view on the individual rights of the LGBT community is more in line with my own.

I like her stance and view on Wall Street reform.

I appreciate what she did in the Iran Nuke arrangement.

But the biggest reason is probably that she is respected on a global level by our foes and allies alike and has a fantastic foreign policy record.



I am sure that will not suffice but I guess I could have just fired back - "none of your damn business - I like her hair better so I'm voting for her"

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Idk who is worse. Wolf Blitzer or Hannity. Can't watch more than a minute of either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s9xokE0fRok

[ntgm37]

Originally Posted by xavieronly1

CA does not have the advantage in electoral vote system. It is Wyoming. The state has the least popluation, but each WY voter carry more voice than CA voter.

For CA's electoral vote, it has 55. In term of CA's registered voters, it has 13,055,815. It means that for every 237,378 CA registered voters, you have one electoral vote.

On the other hand, Wyoming's voters carry more weight. WY has 3 electoral votes. WY registered voters are 249,061. So, for every 83,020 WY registered voters, you have one electoral vote.

LOL, 3 votes vs 55...who cares about the ratio? All that matters is one state counts as 55 and one only 3. Popular vote please! The electoral college is a joke.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by ntgm37

LOL, 3 votes vs 55...who cares about the ratio? All that matters is one state counts as 55 and one only 3. Popular vote please! The electoral college is a joke.

I am all for popular vote.

[timber09]

WY has to have more than 250k registered voters - when I lived in Montana I think there were over 600k people who lived in the state, no way the percentage is that thin. Time to go look.

EDIT: well color me stoopid - as of October they had 223k voters. Crazy.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by timber09

Her tax plan is sustainable, achievable and actually a benefit.

Her view on the individual rights of the LGBT community is more in line with my own.

I like her stance and view on Wall Street reform.

I appreciate what she did in the Iran Nuke arrangement.

But the biggest reason is probably that she is respected on a global level by our foes and allies alike and has a fantastic foreign policy record.



I am sure that will not suffice but I guess I could have just fired back - "none of your damn business - I like her hair better so I'm voting for her"

That's at least a well thought out response and by far the best I have got back.

I guess I just have to ask how you can trust her on Wall Street when she has given speeches and taken so much of their money?

Russia does not respect her. Putin and her hate each other and that's scary.

[ntgm37]

Originally Posted by timber09

WY has to have more than 250k registered voters - when I lived in Montana I think there were over 600k people who lived in the state, no way the percentage is that thin. Time to go look.

EDIT: well color me stoopid - as of October they had 223k voters. Crazy.

We only have like 400,000 people living here, and alot of the people are transplants and still vote for their home states, which effects the number.

[timber09]

I don't think there has ever been a politician that I have "trusted".

As it stands, I don't trust her, I don't trust him so that's a wash. If I vote for her, if she is to win the White House, and then goes against major campaign promises - yeah, I'll be pissed and she'll likely lose her job in four years.

I'm not scared of Russia. The fact that Putiin and Trump are penpals worries me more than the fact that he's scared of Hilary. All his Sabre rattling for Trump tells me that he's scared and outmatched against Clinton.