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Old 09-30-2016, 06:01 PM   #7001
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You are including Fox News in this talk, yes?
They are THE top news network. Ratings are better than ever.

Atleast Megyn Kelly asked Trump some tough questions at the debate. Nobody will do that with Hillary.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:22 PM   #7002
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They are THE top news network. Ratings are better than ever.

Atleast Megyn Kelly asked Trump some tough questions at the debate. Nobody will do that with Hillary.
Their average viewer is nearly 70 years old. They and most cable news companies will be irrelevant in the next decade.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:22 PM   #7003
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You are including Fox News in this talk, yes?
Of course, the MSM, all inclusive.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:26 PM   #7004
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Interesting that since the first debate in out blowout poll Trump and neither were in a dead heat, trump was ahead at best 3 to 5 votes , now up by 23 votes.
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Of course, the MSM, all inclusive.
i need to wear my glasses. I thought that second M was an N, and you were referring to MSN(BC).
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Their average viewer is nearly 70 years old. They and most cable news companies will be irrelevant in the next decade.
False. Have you seen some of the women on the network?. When they outpace CNN 3:1 they are definitely doing something right.
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Their average viewer is nearly 70 years old. They and most cable news companies will be irrelevant in the next decade.
And people get older, get out of mom's house, own property, have children etc....they lean right. Young kids want to save the world, adults realize that can't be done and make responsible decisions. To sum it up, once the average voter gets older and gains common sense they make wiser decisions.
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And people get older, get out of mom's house, own property, have children etc....they lean right. Young kids want to save the world, adults realize that can't be done and make responsible decisions. To sum it up, once the average voter gets older and gains common sense they make wiser decisions.
I believe it was Churchill who said, "Show me a young person who isn't liberal and I'll show you someone without a heart. Show me and older person who isn't conservative and I'll show you someone without a brain."
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False. Have you seen some of the women on the network?. When they outpace CNN 3:1 they are definitely doing something right.
Gotta put something on the screen to supplement the Viagra.
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Gotta put something on the screen to supplement the Viagra.
I turn on Rachel Maddow to counter any long lasting effects I may be experiencing when facing tight schedules.
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And people get older, get out of mom's house, own property, have children etc....they lean right. Young kids want to save the world, adults realize that can't be done and make responsible decisions. To sum it up, once the average voter gets older and gains common sense they make wiser decisions.
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Before this election, I would generally watch CNN to get the majority of my National and World news because, well, I thought they simply reported what was happening in the world and I genuinely enjoy listening to the voice of Wolf Blitzer. Something about it soothes me.

However, when early this year I actually made the decision to vote Trump in the primary (as well as some of my friends who now email me incessantly about the media and this election) I slowly started to realize how MSM was able to fuel the narrative they wanted, CNN most blatantly. One example at a time, it was and still is so odd to me why a shooting in Washington that kills five gets zero coverage, and a shooting of one in North Carolina gets two weeks worth (and so on).

The fact that people who are known to millions of American's like Lemon would go on the air and suggest that Pepe the Frog, PEPE THE FROG, represents a racist, white power America just completely blows my mind. No matter who wins this election I'm grateful for it all because I feel like I actually learned something extremely important and valuable, which I can say never happened in previous elections (simply because I really didn't care).

So for that, thank you to Donald Trump, and Hillary Clinton.

I guess it's a good thing but most of my life we couldn't afford cable TV, so no FOX or CNN. I'd tune to local news where they're teleprompter readers and would rarely editorialize but then again the people behind it choose what gets shown and what doesn't.

Of course found reddit, which I thought was amazing for all kinds of news...during the primary I'd check daily and 95% of the stuff would be pro-bernie and absolutely trash Hillary but now it's that for her and against Trump.



It's kind of sad but feel like my best funnel for news (and an opinion to take away) at times has been tv shows like South Park. Educators in my life have always been big on reading from multiple outlets and finding the middle-point if you can't find a factual 1st source.

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The media is on an all out assault on Trump now. They are trying to find anything potentially bad so they can twist and spin to bring him down. I knew this was going to happen and unfortunately a lot of people just read headlines and take the word of the talking heads. This election may end up way worse than anyone can imagine with the smear campaign against trump and possible more damning emails coming about Clinton from wikileaks, etc.
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The media is on an all out assault on Trump now. They are trying to find anything potentially bad so they can twist and spin to bring him down. I knew this was going to happen and unfortunately a lot of people just read headlines and take the word of the talking heads. This election may end up way worse than anyone can imagine with the smear campaign against trump and possible more damning emails coming about Clinton from wikileaks, etc.
It's ridiculous. HuffPo and WaPo pump out 100 articles a week on Trump and under 5 on Clinton; and now I go to Yahoo! and find this as my homepage ... nearly everyday with this stuff. It's becoming literally 24/7 w/ Trump, digging to find every penny he's ever spent.

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It's ridiculous. HuffPo and WaPo pump out 100 articles a week on Trump and under 5 on Clinton; and now I go to Yahoo! and find this as my homepage ... nearly everyday with this stuff. It's becoming literally 24/7 w/ Trump, digging to find every penny he's ever spent.
Definitely riduclous. Funny thing is...all this is part of the reason he doesn't have to spend as much as Clinton. The primary coverage was very similar. He'd say something nuts and the media would pounce and he'd just get more free publicity. I agree there is a natural media bias against the right because most in the media are Democrats, but I think some of it Trump does purposely.
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Definitely riduclous. Funny thing is...all this is part of the reason he doesn't have to spend as much as Clinton. The primary coverage was very similar. He'd say something nuts and the media would pounce and he'd just get more free publicity. I agree there is a natural media bias against the right because most in the media are Democrats, but I think some of it Trump does purposely.
To the point on the things he says, yes I agree the media just loves to cover those things. But now it's paper after paper coming out to endorse Clinton, and every paper trying to uncover some kind of payment made by the Trump foundation to pay for this, or that. NY AG investigating Trump Foundation for an improper license; Tax return mumbo jumbo, Miss Universe mumbo jumbo from 20 years ago. It's on overdrive.
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It's ridiculous. HuffPo and WaPo pump out 100 articles a week on Trump and under 5 on Clinton; and now I go to Yahoo! and find this as my homepage ... nearly everyday with this stuff. It's becoming literally 24/7 w/ Trump, digging to find every penny he's ever spent.
Funny thing is, I think it actually helps him or at least doesn't hurt him. Most people understand the MSM extreme bias for Clinton and it just adds fuel to the fire for the people who are sick and tired of the establishment. I think the only thing all these "stories" do is create more hatred for the ones that already hate him.

I think it actually kind of paints him as an underdog and invokes sympathy to see him a constant victim of the status quo. I would like nothing more then to see all of it in shambles and will gladly vote Trump just in spite.
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People are tired of all the weak attacks on trump by media. He could kill a kitten tomorrow and it still wouldn't come close to what Clinton has done. I don't know why they even make this their fight against him.
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Wingnut 101......blame the media.
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For the non-stop coverage of meaningless things, yes. I blame the media. When was the last time a panel was actually discussing an issue vs. something either candidate has done in the last 40 years? I truly can't remember.
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And people get older, get out of mom's house, own property, have children etc....they lean right. Young kids want to save the world, adults realize that can't be done and make responsible decisions. To sum it up, once the average voter gets older and gains common sense they make wiser decisions.
Not always. I grew up leaning right but as time as gone on, and I've seen some of the hypocrisy on the right, I've begun to lean left. How to right clings to outlawing abortion, denying gay rights, keeping marijuana illegal, and weakening a society safety net, I've had enough.

Small story. I had to go to church the other week. Most would agree that religious people tend to lean right, hence some of the positions the GOP takes. Throughout the ceremony, they mentioned helping the less fortunate countless times. People say amen, and act like they are going to do it. Then some of them go and vote GOP which recently has worked against helping the less fortunate. Cutting social programs. Working against providing health care to the poor. Things like that. How can I rationalize those two things? How can I not see those people as being hypocrites?

The fact that the GOP has clung to denying gay rights is my biggest sticking point. They lost, They can't accept it though. They won't let it go.

Both sides are full of hypocrites no doubt. I don't like many people on either side. But I do find myself leaning left more and more. So the idea that today's generation will sooner or later become right leaning people I think is an outdated idea. I don't see it happening with this millennial generation.
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Not always. I grew up leaning right but as time as gone on, and I've seen some of the hypocrisy on the right, I've begun to lean left. How to right clings to outlawing abortion, denying gay rights, keeping marijuana illegal, and weakening a society safety net, I've had enough.

Small story. I had to go to church the other week. Most would agree that religious people tend to lean right, hence some of the positions the GOP takes. Throughout the ceremony, they mentioned helping the less fortunate countless times. People say amen, and act like they are going to do it. Then some of them go and vote GOP which recently has worked against helping the less fortunate. Cutting social programs. Working against providing health care to the poor. Things like that. How can I rationalize those two things? How can I not see those people as being hypocrites?

The fact that the GOP has clung to denying gay rights is my biggest sticking point. They lost, They can't accept it though. They won't let it go.

Both sides are full of hypocrites no doubt. I don't like many people on either side. But I do find myself leaning left more and more. So the idea that today's generation will sooner or later become right leaning people I think is an outdated idea. I don't see it happening with this millennial generation.
They worship a man who preached ideas that would make Marx look like a right winger, then vote for policies that are contrary to their scriptures.

I've never understood this hypocrisy.
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