2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[Nyfancam01]

She'll bring maturity, experience and professionalism every single day... Along with RESPECT for those around her.

What will he bring?? Hate? Disrespect? Arrogance? Immaturity?? I dislike him strongly. Have for years... She would do a much better job in such a serious position.. I don't truly think he wants the JOB... I feel he wants the title.

I hope that you all have a great day.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

She'll bring maturity, experience and professionalism every single day... Along with RESPECT for those around her.

What will he bring?? Hate? Disrespect? Arrogance? Immaturity?? I dislike him strongly. Have for years... She would do a much better job in such a serious position.. I don't truly think he wants the JOB... I feel he wants the title.

I hope that you all have a great day.

Hillary respects nothing except whoever gives her the most money and whatever flavor of the day is most popular and then when the money is gone and something is more popular she just flip flops.

[preakness]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

I am proud of Clinton! Just wait until the debates lol She's gonna smash him with FACTS and not stupid opinions.

Criminal, Email Email blah blah blah .. Charged with WHAT????
Completely Cleared is more like it! Her experience alone gives her the win! She's going to do a damn fine job for our country. Give her a chance.

Some players have 4-8 years of experience and float around the Mendoza line hitting .200

Should the manager keep trotting them out due to experience?

Sleeping in White House while husband was president doesn't equal experience

Listen to some military officials about her experience as sec of state and how well she did in the Middle East

Lots of experience with the special
Interest groups and lobbyists indeed

[JosieD]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

Clinton isn't going to save anything... The presidents have less power now than ever and can't really do much be a head figure.

Tone it down a bit, he's a great businessman IMO, but doesn't have the social background to run for president.
Trump is an uneducated genius when it comes to politics. I'd love to see what he could do as a chairman of the cabinet.

Then why are people constantly blaming President Obama for everything?

Honestly, I don't think it matters who wins this thing. Either way, people are just going to complain endlessly for the next 4 years instead of getting off their phones, tablets, computers, etc. and actually doing something about their situation or fight against the injustices they speak of.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by JosieD

Honestly, I don't think it matters who wins this thing. Either way, people are just going to complain endlessly for the next 4 years instead of getting off their phones, tablets, computers, etc. and actually doing something about their situation or fight against the injustices they speak of.

What is that, exactly? People say this all the time but have no real solutions.

[jcardstore]

It's getting to the point where nothing we do as citizens matters. Our votes pretty much don't matter, our voices don't matter either.

The only way your vote or voice counts anymore is if you have a fat check behind it. All of us normal people are worthless to the government and electing a beacon of corruption and deceit or the village idiot won't help.

To fix anything in this country there needs to be a political revolution. The entire structure needs to be fixed

[JosieD]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

What is that, exactly? People say this all the time but have no real solutions.

Each person would have to look at what they see as the problem and determine how they can help. For example, someone who is anti-abortion could volunteer at a place that counsels and helps women who are seeking out an abortion, volunteer at big brothers/big sisters or local boys and girls clubs, homeless shelters, churches, food/clothing banks, foster children, mentor women in areas that abortions are at a higher rate, anything that directly relates to the problem.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by JosieD

Each person would have to look at what they see as the problem and determine how they can help. For example, someone who is anti-abortion could volunteer at a place that counsels and helps women who are seeking out an abortion, volunteer at big brothers/big sisters or local boys and girls clubs, homeless shelters, churches, food/clothing banks, foster children, mentor women in areas that abortions are at a higher rate, anything that directly relates to the problem.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. Although I will say that at the point we're at and where we are heading a single dixie cup of water isn't going to put out the forest fire

[natbornkiller]

what are Hillary's political accomplishments ?

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

what are Hillary's political accomplishments ?

She revolutionized how the secretary of state handles state secrets!

[JosieD]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

I agree wholeheartedly with this. Although I will say that at the point we're at and where we are heading a single dixie cup of water isn't going to put out the forest fire

I just watched a documentary and forest fires are needed for new growth to take place. I think that applies to our problems as well. You are right. Our problems seem so huge like they are almost impossible to overcome but think about how a person learns to run. They start with the most basic of motions and keep progressing. Maybe we need to be taking baby steps right now to get where we want to be.

[preakness]

Pokemon Go became popular under a Democratic president

[HillbillyCletus]

Trey Gowdy 2020

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

She'll bring maturity, experience and professionalism every single day... Along with RESPECT for those around her.

What will he bring?? Hate? Disrespect? Arrogance? Immaturity?? I dislike him strongly. Have for years... She would do a much better job in such a serious position.. I don't truly think he wants the JOB... I feel he wants the title.

I hope that you all have a great day.

now I know you're just making jokes.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by JosieD

I just watched a documentary and forest fires are needed for new growth to take place. I think that applies to our problems as well. You are right. Our problems seem so huge like they are almost impossible to overcome but think about how a person learns to run. They start with the most basic of motions and keep progressing. Maybe we need to be taking baby steps right now to get where we want to be.

Until we stop electing candidates who are owned by lobbyists and just say what everyone wants to hear while doing nothing and we start electing people who stand for something and have conviction behind what they say nothing will change and the fire will just keep on burning.

To me, Bernie should have been the democratic nominee. As much as I couldn't stand his absurd economic policies, he actually believes in what he says and doesn't flip flop on everything depending on what the current flavor of the month is.

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Yes, she is O.J. Simpson.

Still waiting for even one crime that can be proven from any of you.

Will be waiting for a loooong time....

Ok jdandns, Just the email scandal, clear and concise facts.

The Washington Post, of all places, found that not only did Hillary Clinton send and receive classified material on her unsecured email server as Secretary of State, she wrote dozens of classified emails herself.

To understand the implications of this revelation, let’s rewind the clock to early last year, when Clinton first addressed her private email controversy at a press conference held in the United Nations building.

A reporter asked Clinton whether she was “ever specifically briefed on the security implications of using your own email server and using your personal address to email with the president?”

Her answer was emphatic: “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.”

Then she went on: “I’m certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material.”

The first claim had been proved false long ago, once the State Department started releasing what would end up being 2,093 of Clinton’s emails that it said contained classified material.

Once those emails started emerging, Clinton changed her story to say that she never “knowingly” sent or received classified information, because none of the messages were so marked. That excuse fell by the wayside when emails turned up containing information deemed “classified at birth.” Then several showed up that couldn’t be released at all because their classification rating was so high.

The Post’s latest revelations, however, are particularly damning. It found that three-quarters of the classified emails she sent were written by Clinton herself.

Saying she didn’t know the information was classified because it wasn’t marked makes no sense, since she was the one who would have been responsible for marking it in the first place.

And, since she claims that she was “well aware of the classification requirements,” she can’t now claim that she was ignorant of the nature of the information she was sending.

As this story has unfolded over the past year, Clinton has tried to brush it aside as a partisan witch hunt. When that didn’t wash, she tried to blame the State Department for “over classifying” information, or charged that it was just the result of interagency squabbles.

Clinton also tried to smear the inspectors general for State and the intelligence community, both of whom were appointed by President Obama.

But what she has never done is admit the truth. Namely, that she set up her private email account as a way to shield her communications from public scrutiny, a tactic that worked for a time, and that in doing so she gave little thought to the national security implications.

Her cavalier attitude apparently set the tone for the department. The Post notes that top aid John Sullivan “was the most frequent author of classified emails,” and other top officials, Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin, “authored dozens of such notes.”

Under the law, gross negligence in handling classified material is all that’s required for a government official to face criminal charges. At this point, is there anyone who can honestly say that Clinton wasn’t being grossly negligent?

Just because she wasn't charged doesn't mean she is innocent. At the very least she was exposed as an habitual liar who will say anything to suite her situation.

If there is any doubt just reread this and substitute Trump for Hillary. Would you feel the same?

[jarrodsalas]

2002-2014 She Supports Iraq War
2014-Admits wrong

2004-2012 Says Marriage is a sacred bond between man and woman
2013-Supports Gay Marriage

2010-2015 Supports Keystone Pipeline
2015-Opposes Keystone

2010-2015 Endorses TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership for those who don't know like NYFanCam) as Secretary of State
2015-Opposes TPP

2000-2015 Delivers motivational speeches to Wall Street
2016- "I told Wall Street to cut it out"
She earned 3.45 million giving these speeches.

2002-2015 Supports no child left behind
2015-Backs away and supports Teachers Union stance

[callou2131]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

She'll bring maturity, experience and professionalism every single day... Along with RESPECT for those around her.

What will he bring?? Hate? Disrespect? Arrogance? Immaturity?? I dislike him strongly. Have for years... She would do a much better job in such a serious position.. I don't truly think he wants the JOB... I feel he wants the title.

I hope that you all have a great day.

Pretty sure this is trolling. Has to be.

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

I am proud of Clinton! Just wait until the debates lol She's gonna smash him with FACTS and not stupid opinions.

Criminal, Email Email blah blah blah .. Charged with WHAT????
Completely Cleared is more like it! Her experience alone gives her the win! She's going to do a damn fine job for our country. Give her a chance.

Can't tell if troll or serious...

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by Timmay

Ok jdandns, Just the email scandal, clear and concise facts.

The Washington Post, of all places, found that not only did Hillary Clinton send and receive classified material on her unsecured email server as Secretary of State, she wrote dozens of classified emails herself.

To understand the implications of this revelation, let’s rewind the clock to early last year, when Clinton first addressed her private email controversy at a press conference held in the United Nations building.

A reporter asked Clinton whether she was “ever specifically briefed on the security implications of using your own email server and using your personal address to email with the president?”

Her answer was emphatic: “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.”

Then she went on: “I’m certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material.”

The first claim had been proved false long ago, once the State Department started releasing what would end up being 2,093 of Clinton’s emails that it said contained classified material.

Once those emails started emerging, Clinton changed her story to say that she never “knowingly” sent or received classified information, because none of the messages were so marked. That excuse fell by the wayside when emails turned up containing information deemed “classified at birth.” Then several showed up that couldn’t be released at all because their classification rating was so high.

The Post’s latest revelations, however, are particularly damning. It found that three-quarters of the classified emails she sent were written by Clinton herself.

Saying she didn’t know the information was classified because it wasn’t marked makes no sense, since she was the one who would have been responsible for marking it in the first place.

And, since she claims that she was “well aware of the classification requirements,” she can’t now claim that she was ignorant of the nature of the information she was sending.

As this story has unfolded over the past year, Clinton has tried to brush it aside as a partisan witch hunt. When that didn’t wash, she tried to blame the State Department for “over classifying” information, or charged that it was just the result of interagency squabbles.

Clinton also tried to smear the inspectors general for State and the intelligence community, both of whom were appointed by President Obama.

But what she has never done is admit the truth. Namely, that she set up her private email account as a way to shield her communications from public scrutiny, a tactic that worked for a time, and that in doing so she gave little thought to the national security implications.

Her cavalier attitude apparently set the tone for the department. The Post notes that top aid John Sullivan “was the most frequent author of classified emails,” and other top officials, Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin, “authored dozens of such notes.”

Under the law, gross negligence in handling classified material is all that’s required for a government official to face criminal charges. At this point, is there anyone who can honestly say that Clinton wasn’t being grossly negligent?

Just because she wasn't charged doesn't mean she is innocent. At the very least she was exposed as an habitual liar who will say anything to suite her situation.

If there is any doubt just reread this and substitute Trump for Hillary. Would you feel the same?

Spot on!!! To bad who it was intended for has their head in the sand and is unwilling to see the truth. That's fine if you want to back her, at least admit she broke the law and lied about it.

[preakness]

4-8 years of pants suits
OR
4-8 years of Ivanka and Melania?

That's a solid platform

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

2002-2014 She Supports Iraq War
2014-Admits wrong

2004-2012 Says Marriage is a sacred bond between man and woman
2013-Supports Gay Marriage

2010-2015 Supports Keystone Pipeline
2015-Opposes Keystone

2010-2015 Endorses TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership for those who don't know like NYFanCam) as Secretary of State
2015-Opposes TPP

2000-2015 Delivers motivational speeches to Wall Street
2016- "I told Wall Street to cut it out"
She earned 3.45 million giving these speeches.

2002-2015 Supports no child left behind
2015-Backs away and supports Teachers Union stance

this is the very reason most "real" liberals have a very hard time trusting her. Sanders' record was clear, and he was on the liberal side of things almost every time. She seems to be a political chameleon, able to change her colors when it's the perfect moment.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Timmay

If there is any doubt just reread this and substitute Trump for Hillary. Would you feel the same?

You could present this guy with all of the hard evidence in the world and it's wrong if it pertains to Hillary. There is literally nothing you can say to him that will make him understand he is so blinded by his obvious bias. He cannot be objective in this matter so there's no use in trying to show him anything because he will reject it immediately.

He's said nothing except the same 2 things the whole thread "no facts, just opinions" "she never got charged so that means she didn't do anything wrong".

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

She'll bring maturity, experience and professionalism every single day... Along with RESPECT for those around her.

What will he bring?? Hate? Disrespect? Arrogance? Immaturity?? I dislike him strongly. Have for years... She would do a much better job in such a serious position.. I don't truly think he wants the JOB... I feel he wants the title.

I hope that you all have a great day.

Oh wow, you really are serious.

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by pac213up

It is an amazing thing. With every national election it gets more and more difficult for the Republican establishment to win an election because of the demographics at play.

maybe at the national level, but the keep sweeping at the local level because the districts are so gerrymandered it's ridiculous.