Michael Jordan Star Question

TOOF7LTHY Cards · 01-26-2021, 02:01 AM

What do you guys think about the "85 and 86" star jordan cards? Are they considered alternative rookies? Or is it only the 84 #101 and the 86 fleer?

Totalpackage · 01-26-2021, 03:09 AM

I would take all 84-86 Star Jordan as his rookie cards or XRC since the 86 Fleer is hot right now. Michael Jordan needs more rookie cards to meet the demand of his enormous fanbase. How many rookie cards does LeBron has? I think there are at least 10 or more iconic LeBron rookies out there, and what about Kobe then? In my opinion, it is a good thing for our MJ fans to have more choices collecting Jordan rookies, and the other good thing is we can have more affordable choices than 86 Fleer and 86 Fleer Stickers or 84 Star 101. Again, Michael Jordan is still undervalued comparing to some of today's young talents.

DajuanWagner · 01-26-2021, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TOOF7LTHY Cards

What do you guys think about the "85 and 86" star jordan cards? Are they considered alternative rookies? Or is it only the 84 #101 and the 86 fleer?

I would take any of them.........

Illustrious · 01-26-2021, 08:19 AM

I’ve consistently said these are some of the most overlooked/undervalued cards in Basketball. These are all officially licensed NBA cards that predate the Fleer “rookie” card.

agsstructures · 01-26-2021, 08:28 AM

Love the Gatorade and the 117 card.

Illustrious · 01-26-2021, 06:08 PM

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Love the Gatorade and the 117 card.

They're my favorite Stars as well (other than the 101). I was fortunate enough to pick both of these up earlier this year for around $1100 for both after the Last Dance hype died down a bit and everybody else was busy chasing Luka, Zion, and Ja etc. I felt very strongly these were undervalued back then and I'm glad I listened to my gut.

agsstructures · 01-26-2021, 07:18 PM

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They're my favorite Stars as well (other than the 101). I was fortunate enough to pick both of these up earlier this year for around $1100 for both after the Last Dance hype died down a bit and everybody else was busy chasing Luka, Zion, and Ja etc. I felt very strongly these were undervalued back then and I'm glad I listened to my gut.

Beautiful cards, i have the same 2

Illustrious · 01-26-2021, 07:29 PM

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Beautiful cards, i have the same 2

Post 'em! I love seeing copies of these and other Star cards.

agsstructures · 01-26-2021, 09:49 PM

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Post 'em! I love seeing copies of these and other Star cards.

No problem! Had to throw the 57 in the mix

Dontom · 01-26-2021, 09:23 AM

With how low the pop is on these cards and the fact that they came out a year or two before the Fleer rookie they should be selling for triple what they currently sell for. They are currently getting a nice price surge with the climbing prices of Jordan cards but they have the potential to absolutely explode. With the buyout of PSA if Nat Turner, who owns some of the Jordan Star cards, decides to have PSA grade them again their value would skyrocket overnight. I think these are a very good investment to get into while they are still somewhat affordable.

aaronking23 · 01-26-2021, 09:28 AM

they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake

Totalpackage · 01-26-2021, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronking23

they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake

Yes, that's why I didn't grab a couple back in the day when the 85 Star 117 were quite bargain, but after I read several articles, I came up with a conclusion which the counterfeited cards are mostly in 84 Star 101 which the fake card makers could gain huge profit from it. For cards published from latter years, it's quite safe when buying graded ones.

6celtics33 · 01-26-2021, 11:06 AM

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Yes, that's why I didn't grab a couple back in the day when the 85 Star 117 were quite bargain, but after I read several articles, I came up with a conclusion which the counterfeited cards are mostly in 84 Star 101 which the fake card makers could gain huge profit from it. For cards published from latter years, it's quite safe when buying graded ones.

There are no good fakes of the 101. Trimmed or sheet cut do exist.

6celtics33 · 01-26-2021, 11:05 AM

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they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake

Do tell

I'd love to hear more

aaronking23 · 01-26-2021, 11:14 AM

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Do tell

I'd love to hear more

uh thats pretty much it and why I never got one

6celtics33 · 01-26-2021, 11:58 AM

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uh thats pretty much it and why I never got one

cool, yeah you should avoid them then

aaronking23 · 01-26-2021, 12:06 PM

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cool, yeah you should avoid them then

?? whats your problem I was just saying why I never got one

Dontom · 01-26-2021, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronking23

they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake

Every Star thread has at least one person spreading more false information. Where did you get your information from?

aaronking23 · 01-27-2021, 08:14 AM

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Every Star thread has at least one person spreading more false information. Where did you get your information from?

Well maybe I'm wrong but I could of sworn a certain number of fake/trimmed

star cards got in before bgs was trained and the fact that psa won't grade them

threw me off. I also thought jordan autos with a 0008 cert were suspect but I

could be wrong.

I do believe the real 101s are grossly undervalued, I was just saying in my

opinion what it has going against it. Not trying to start an argument or

anything

Brent72 · 01-26-2021, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronking23

they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake

Stop spreading misinformation!

classicjay17 · 01-26-2021, 06:34 PM

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Stop spreading misinformation!

Shhh! The longer people continue to believe these "Rumors" about Star Jordan's, the longer the prices will remain affordable. I've got a lot more on my want list, and the 101 & 117 are already out of reach for me.

I say spread away with your false info!

classicjay17 · 01-26-2021, 06:37 PM

I'm missing a few, but love the variety of colors in the different star Jordans:

hxcmilkshake · 01-26-2021, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronking23

they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake

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Illustrious · 01-26-2021, 10:13 AM

The ‘86 Fleer and ‘85 Nike are heavily counterfeited as well, so to disavow Star cards for that reason seems a little silly to me. As with anything, research will help you avoid counterfeits.

blinkme323 · 01-26-2021, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Illustrious

The ‘86 Fleer and ‘85 Nike are heavily counterfeited as well, so to disavow Star cards for that reason seems a little silly to me. As with anything, research will help you avoid counterfeits.

Agreed. There’s far more counterfeit Fleer rookies out there, than there are Star 101s. Not even close actually. Strange argument.

01-26-2021, 03:09 AM	#2
Totalpackage Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,113 totalpackage	I would take all 84-86 Star Jordan as his rookie cards or XRC since the 86 Fleer is hot right now. Michael Jordan needs more rookie cards to meet the demand of his enormous fanbase. How many rookie cards does LeBron has? I think there are at least 10 or more iconic LeBron rookies out there, and what about Kobe then? In my opinion, it is a good thing for our MJ fans to have more choices collecting Jordan rookies, and the other good thing is we can have more affordable choices than 86 Fleer and 86 Fleer Stickers or 84 Star 101. Again, Michael Jordan is still undervalued comparing to some of today's young talents. Last edited by Totalpackage; 01-26-2021 at 03:14 AM.

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classicjay17 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 37 classicjay117	I'm missing a few, but love the variety of colors in the different star Jordans: Last edited by classicjay17; 01-26-2021 at 06:38 PM. Reason: missing pics

01-26-2021, 02:01 AM	#1
TOOF7LTHY Cards Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 74	Michael Jordan Star Question What do you guys think about the "85 and 86" star jordan cards? Are they considered alternative rookies? Or is it only the 84 #101 and the 86 fleer?

01-26-2021, 08:19 AM	#4
Illustrious Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Virginia Posts: 185	I’ve consistently said these are some of the most overlooked/undervalued cards in Basketball. These are all officially licensed NBA cards that predate the Fleer “rookie” card.

01-26-2021, 08:28 AM	#5
agsstructures Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 209 agsstructures	Love the Gatorade and the 117 card.

01-26-2021, 09:23 AM	#10
Dontom Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Chicago area Posts: 244	With how low the pop is on these cards and the fact that they came out a year or two before the Fleer rookie they should be selling for triple what they currently sell for. They are currently getting a nice price surge with the climbing prices of Jordan cards but they have the potential to absolutely explode. With the buyout of PSA if Nat Turner, who owns some of the Jordan Star cards, decides to have PSA grade them again their value would skyrocket overnight. I think these are a very good investment to get into while they are still somewhat affordable. Last edited by Dontom; 01-26-2021 at 09:30 AM.

01-26-2021, 09:28 AM	#11
aaronking23 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 193	they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake

01-26-2021, 10:13 AM	#24
Illustrious Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Virginia Posts: 185	The ‘86 Fleer and ‘85 Nike are heavily counterfeited as well, so to disavow Star cards for that reason seems a little silly to me. As with anything, research will help you avoid counterfeits.