Michael Jordan Star Question
 

What do you guys think about the "85 and 86" star jordan cards? Are they considered alternative rookies? Or is it only the 84 #101 and the 86 fleer?

I would take all 84-86 Star Jordan as his rookie cards or XRC since the 86 Fleer is hot right now. Michael Jordan needs more rookie cards to meet the demand of his enormous fanbase. How many rookie cards does LeBron has? I think there are at least 10 or more iconic LeBron rookies out there, and what about Kobe then? In my opinion, it is a good thing for our MJ fans to have more choices collecting Jordan rookies, and the other good thing is we can have more affordable choices than 86 Fleer and 86 Fleer Stickers or 84 Star 101. Again, Michael Jordan is still undervalued comparing to some of today's young talents.

[QUOTE=TOOF7LTHY Cards;16917734]What do you guys think about the "85 and 86" star jordan cards? Are they considered alternative rookies? Or is it only the 84 #101 and the 86 fleer?[/QUOTE]



I would take any of them.........

I’ve consistently said these are some of the most overlooked/undervalued cards in Basketball. These are all officially licensed NBA cards that predate the Fleer “rookie” card.

Love the Gatorade and the 117 card.

With how low the pop is on these cards and the fact that they came out a year or two before the Fleer rookie they should be selling for triple what they currently sell for. They are currently getting a nice price surge with the climbing prices of Jordan cards but they have the potential to absolutely explode. With the buyout of PSA if Nat Turner, who owns some of the Jordan Star cards, decides to have PSA grade them again their value would skyrocket overnight. I think these are a very good investment to get into while they are still somewhat affordable.

they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake

[QUOTE=aaronking23;16918196]they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake[/QUOTE]

Yes, that's why I didn't grab a couple back in the day when the 85 Star 117 were quite bargain, but after I read several articles, I came up with a conclusion which the counterfeited cards are mostly in 84 Star 101 which the fake card makers could gain huge profit from it. For cards published from latter years, it's quite safe when buying graded ones.

The ‘86 Fleer and ‘85 Nike are heavily counterfeited as well, so to disavow Star cards for that reason seems a little silly to me. As with anything, research will help you avoid counterfeits.

[QUOTE=Illustrious;16918363]The ‘86 Fleer and ‘85 Nike are heavily counterfeited as well, so to disavow Star cards for that reason seems a little silly to me. As with anything, research will help you avoid counterfeits.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. There’s far more counterfeit Fleer rookies out there, than there are Star 101s. Not even close actually. Strange argument.

117 and 101 are the most criminally undervalued in sports card history.

Anyone who disagrees is crazy.

Devin Bookers NT goes for the price of a clean BGS 101. Thats insane and no knock on Booker but sometimes this hobby makes zero sense.

You can get 7 117’s for the price of a KAT NT. No knock on KAT.

Seriously it is a ridiculous hobby sometimes.

I love this one:

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[QUOTE=jgrann13;16918423]117 and 101 are the most criminally undervalued in sports card history.

Anyone who disagrees is crazy.

Devin Bookers NT goes for the price of a clean BGS 101. Thats insane and no knock on Booker but sometimes this hobby makes zero sense.

You can get 7 117’s for the price of a KAT NT. No knock on KAT.

Seriously it is a ridiculous hobby sometimes.[/QUOTE]

I would say each and every 84-86 Star Jordan ( graded) is criminally undervalued comparing to most of today's players. I am talking about cards with at least 35 years history and they belong to the greatest player of all time, however, I am not a talker only, I just bought one a couple days ago, and I wish I could buy more but my pocket says no.

and on and on it goes, yep they are all fake

if psa says so then it MUST be true

[QUOTE=aaronking23;16918196]they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake[/QUOTE]

Do tell

I'd love to hear more

[QUOTE=Totalpackage;16918348]Yes, that's why I didn't grab a couple back in the day when the 85 Star 117 were quite bargain, but after I read several articles, I came up with a conclusion which the counterfeited cards are mostly in 84 Star 101 which the fake card makers could gain huge profit from it. For cards published from latter years, it's quite safe when buying graded ones.[/QUOTE]

There are no good fakes of the 101. Trimmed or sheet cut do exist.

[QUOTE=6celtics33;16918637]Do tell

I'd love to hear more[/QUOTE]

uh thats pretty much it and why I never got one

[QUOTE=aaronking23;16918679]uh thats pretty much it and why I never got one[/QUOTE]

cool, yeah you should avoid them then

[QUOTE=6celtics33;16918924]cool, yeah you should avoid them then[/QUOTE]

?? whats your problem I was just saying why I never got one

[QUOTE=aaronking23;16918966]?? whats your problem I was just saying why I never got one[/QUOTE]

I was just curious when "word got out" what you were talking about

You talked like you knew for sure about fake star in certain serial numbers.

Just wondering which ones and if you had any proof?

[QUOTE=aaronking23;16918196]they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake[/QUOTE]

Every Star thread has at least one person spreading more false information. Where did you get your information from?

[QUOTE=aaronking23;16918196]they're def sweet but were heavily counterfeited and altered which is why psa won't grade them

word got out a lot of bgs slabbed jordan star cards with a certain cert # were fake[/QUOTE]

Stop spreading misinformation!

The #288 is the most undervalued of all Star cards IMO (based on current value of all Star cards)

Of the 3 84-85 Star Cards produced, the 288 has the smallest population graded and none graded higher than a 9.

#101 - 900
#195 - 779
#288 - 474

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Holy cow...I was looking at 101's on eBay and I couldnt believe the prices the sellers r asking for a 7.5. YIKES!!!

[QUOTE=Bulls90s;16920145]Holy cow...I was looking at 101's on eBay and I couldnt believe the prices the sellers r asking for a 7.5. YIKES!!![/QUOTE]

There climbing. Even the 117’s were in the low 2k range a few weeks ago for a 9. They are closer to 4-5k now. I have a feeling these will explode.