PART 2... Did I ruin this card? In Person aurograph debate!

kazmir114 · 01-06-2016, 03:50 AM

Ok guys, so I had a lot of mixed feelings on the Steven Matz Tallboy super autograph card. So lets see where opinion takes us as we move onto another piece. This one out of my personal collection. But let's say this wasn't fort collection, what would you guys say???

2013 Topps Allen And Ginter dual patch relic booklet
(NON-AUTO) 1/1 Adam Jones/Cal Ripken Jr.
JSA AUTHENTICATED!

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Let the thread begin!

berkey33 · 01-06-2016, 03:57 AM

With the Matz at least you could take the auto off (right?) this one its like this forever.

kyleuk21 · 01-06-2016, 06:00 AM

If this was a Brandon Phillips card or a Votto card or an A&G wood mini (things I collect) I would be mortified. I just don't understand why u would get this signed and ruin it rather than get a nice base card signed.

awz50 · 01-06-2016, 07:36 AM

No you ruined this one

alifaxwa2 · 01-06-2016, 07:55 AM

Love it!

BigDan502 · 01-06-2016, 08:05 AM

Ruined it but it's your card. If you want to rip it in half and make 2 cards you can.

DarkTiger29 · 01-06-2016, 08:21 AM

You completely ruined this card...you better send it to me for proper disposal. PM me for my address

rcgdodge · 01-06-2016, 08:22 AM

I like the Matz being signed. This one looks awful on the patches.

TarjetasBéisbol · 01-06-2016, 08:23 AM

You talk about value...are you planning on selling it or what? Do whatever you want with your cards but make sure you tell any potential buyers how the card was altered if you sell it.

Hollywood42 · 01-06-2016, 08:44 AM

I find it hard to believe that getting something signed will ever NOT ruin the value of the card

Edit- Unless it's a very low end card, of course

redsoxfan1534 · 01-06-2016, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kyleuk21

I just don't understand why u would get this signed and ruin it rather than get a nice base card signed.

This is exactly what I was thinking

theflushingmets · 01-06-2016, 09:31 AM

i think if you plan on hanging on to this card it's cool. it's one of a kind and i would imagine if you got it slabbed and authenticated at least one other person would pony up some money for it. though if it was just intended for a flip you probably hurt yourself in the short term.

personally i think if youre going to hang onto it with no intention to sell it's pretty sweet. i don't think i would do it to any of my patch cards, but hey, its your collection and not mine.

rcearley · 01-06-2016, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TarjetasBéisbol

You talk about value...are you planning on selling it or what? Do whatever you want with your cards but make sure you tell any potential buyers how the card was altered if you sell it.

Same thoughts I have as well. Another question to add, why don't you have one of the many great custom card makers create a custom to have signed in person instead of having 1/1's from licensed products signed? They could replicate the same thing and do a better job in my opinion.

No 1 · 01-06-2016, 09:38 AM

If it was on the market, I would definetly pass on it

The yodaninja · 01-06-2016, 09:39 AM

Why would you do that?? Just curious

JMG318 · 01-06-2016, 09:55 AM

As an Os fan . Id love to own it.

Steve2112 · 01-06-2016, 11:42 AM

It's generally accepted that getting IP autographs on a rare or otherwise valuable card will greatly decrease the monetary value of the card. So, as long as the person getting the card signed knows that ahead of time, and/or doesn't plan to ever sell it, I see no harm.

Where I think it gets humorous is when collectors get outraged or offended that a card that doesn't even belong to them gets signed (whether they just don't like the concept, or the card is of a player they collect, or whatever). I personally am an autograph collector (IP, TTM, and purchasing certs), so if I were to ever obtain a low-numbered or even 1/1 card, I would love to get it signed, even if it would be just to watch everyone get so bent out of shape over it.

Nyfancam01 · 01-06-2016, 11:45 AM

the other looked alright due to nice ink and centering on the sig

this card is 100% RUINED.

34JacktheRipper · 01-06-2016, 12:14 PM

Yeah, not good IMO.

Zoop · 01-06-2016, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve2112

It's generally accepted that getting IP autographs on a rare or otherwise valuable card will greatly decrease the monetary value of the card. So, as long as the person getting the card signed knows that ahead of time, and/or doesn't plan to ever sell it, I see no harm.

Where I think it gets humorous is when collectors get outraged or offended that a card that doesn't even belong to them gets signed (whether they just don't like the concept, or the card is of a player they collect, or whatever). I personally am an autograph collector (IP, TTM, and purchasing certs), so if I were to ever obtain a low-numbered or even 1/1 card, I would love to get it signed, even if it would be just to watch everyone get so bent out of shape over it.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

oucats02 · 01-06-2016, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve2112

It's generally accepted that getting IP autographs on a rare or otherwise valuable card will greatly decrease the monetary value of the card. So, as long as the person getting the card signed knows that ahead of time, and/or doesn't plan to ever sell it, I see no harm.

Where I think it gets humorous is when collectors get outraged or offended that a card that doesn't even belong to them gets signed (whether they just don't like the concept, or the card is of a player they collect, or whatever). I personally am an autograph collector (IP, TTM, and purchasing certs), so if I were to ever obtain a low-numbered or even 1/1 card, I would love to get it signed, even if it would be just to watch everyone get so bent out of shape over it.

Well put Steve!

I have a few numbered cards, relics, and even 1/1's signed. Since I wasn't going to sell or trade them, then I see no harm in doing so. In fact, I specifically got the printing plates (1/1) to get signed; Nick Travieso 2015 THM, and Kyle Waldrop 2015 THM. I love them, and they even commented on the card when they signed - which I think is pretty cool too.

I have a few refactors, and numbered cards too. The lowest being a Michael Lorenzen 2013 Bowman Red Ice #ed/25 signed. I love it! I think it's fun to get those different cards signed.

All in all I think it's completely okay to do whatever you want! Especially if it's for your PC.

kyleuk21 · 01-06-2016, 12:42 PM

Having someone write on it is just like trimming it in my opinion. I'm a perfectionist who admires the the rarity and unblemished condition of a 1/1. Any alterations make it unattractive to me. I would hate to see that happen to any of the cards I've been searching for for months, years, etc.

texmcpherson · 01-06-2016, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcearley

Same thoughts I have as well. Another question to add, why don't you have one of the many great custom card makers create a custom to have signed in person instead of having 1/1's from licensed products signed? They could replicate the same thing and do a better job in my opinion.

THIS!

centereacan06 · 01-06-2016, 12:59 PM

Could go either way. Like stated in the last thread, the amount of people who would be interested in buying goes way down, but there may be one or two insane player/team collectors who would pay a ton for it.

I personally think it's kind of neat, especially since there are some patches from Topps that were cut from an autographed jersey.

yanksfan0134 · 01-06-2016, 01:03 PM

Who cares, it looks awesome!

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01-06-2016, 03:50 AM	#1
kazmir114 Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New York Posts: 3,598 kazmir114	PART 2... Did I ruin this card? In Person aurograph debate! Ok guys, so I had a lot of mixed feelings on the Steven Matz Tallboy super autograph card. So lets see where opinion takes us as we move onto another piece. This one out of my personal collection. But let's say this wasn't fort collection, what would you guys say??? 2013 Topps Allen And Ginter dual patch relic booklet (NON-AUTO) 1/1 Adam Jones/Cal Ripken Jr. JSA AUTHENTICATED! Let the thread begin!

01-06-2016, 07:36 AM	#4
awz50 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: New Hampshire>>>Arizona>>>>Florida Posts: 33,389 awz50	No you ruined this one __________________ Collecting Baseball Hof Autographs 248/351 Blowouts Official Red Sox face of the franchise Eduardo Rodriguez Super Collector

01-06-2016, 07:55 AM	#5
alifaxwa2 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: MD Posts: 1,128 alifaxwa	Love it! __________________ Looking to have some custom cuts built? PM me. Examples of Completed Customs; FB.me/jpcustomcards or https://www.flickr.com/gp/142349487@N02/DGae0C

01-06-2016, 08:21 AM	#7
DarkTiger29 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New York Posts: 2,255	You completely ruined this card...you better send it to me for proper disposal. PM me for my address __________________ Looking for 2013 Topps Chrome Jim Johnson Printing Plates - Magenta & Yellow PC: Jim Johnson, Chris Okey and Topps Chrome base autos

01-06-2016, 03:57 AM	#2
berkey33 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: PC Ohio State Posts: 1,653 Berkey33	With the Matz at least you could take the auto off (right?) this one its like this forever.

01-06-2016, 06:00 AM	#3
kyleuk21 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,971 redlegs317 kyleuk21	If this was a Brandon Phillips card or a Votto card or an A&G wood mini (things I collect) I would be mortified. I just don't understand why u would get this signed and ruin it rather than get a nice base card signed.

01-06-2016, 08:05 AM	#6
BigDan502 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,327	Ruined it but it's your card. If you want to rip it in half and make 2 cards you can.

01-06-2016, 08:22 AM	#8
rcgdodge Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Delaware Posts: 25,131 rcgdodge	I like the Matz being signed. This one looks awful on the patches. __________________ Looking For: 2013 Bowman Chrome Joe Mauer - - Black, Yellow, Red, Printing Plates

01-06-2016, 08:23 AM	#9
TarjetasBéisbol Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NOVA Posts: 10,894	You talk about value...are you planning on selling it or what? Do whatever you want with your cards but make sure you tell any potential buyers how the card was altered if you sell it. __________________ De oppresso liber - RLTW "The Mexicans taught me that trick", "Let me be very clear, crystal clear"

01-06-2016, 08:44 AM	#10
Hollywood42 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Minnesota Posts: 39,496 Hollywood42	I find it hard to believe that getting something signed will ever NOT ruin the value of the card Edit- Unless it's a very low end card, of course __________________ Collecting the Twins All my PC wants/haves available at hollywood42cards.com Last edited by Hollywood42; 01-06-2016 at 08:55 AM.

01-06-2016, 09:31 AM	#12
theflushingmets Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 2,014 Rob_digital_nyc Theflushingmets516	i think if you plan on hanging on to this card it's cool. it's one of a kind and i would imagine if you got it slabbed and authenticated at least one other person would pony up some money for it. though if it was just intended for a flip you probably hurt yourself in the short term. personally i think if youre going to hang onto it with no intention to sell it's pretty sweet. i don't think i would do it to any of my patch cards, but hey, its your collection and not mine. __________________ Always looking to add more to my Mets collection. Currently looking for high end cards of the more obscure players to put on a Mets uni in the bigs.

01-06-2016, 09:38 AM	#14
No 1 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: VA Posts: 2,694	If it was on the market, I would definetly pass on it

01-06-2016, 09:39 AM	#15
The yodaninja Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,974	Why would you do that?? Just curious

01-06-2016, 09:55 AM	#16
JMG318 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,436	As an Os fan . Id love to own it.

01-06-2016, 11:42 AM	#17
Steve2112 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,014	It's generally accepted that getting IP autographs on a rare or otherwise valuable card will greatly decrease the monetary value of the card. So, as long as the person getting the card signed knows that ahead of time, and/or doesn't plan to ever sell it, I see no harm. Where I think it gets humorous is when collectors get outraged or offended that a card that doesn't even belong to them gets signed (whether they just don't like the concept, or the card is of a player they collect, or whatever). I personally am an autograph collector (IP, TTM, and purchasing certs), so if I were to ever obtain a low-numbered or even 1/1 card, I would love to get it signed, even if it would be just to watch everyone get so bent out of shape over it. __________________ -current projects: Topps Chrome base autos 2004-present -2008 Donruss EEE #190 Carson Blair "Aspirations" auto /25 (have four of the 25) -always interested in people's unwanted Pat Neshek base cards

01-06-2016, 11:45 AM	#18
Nyfancam01 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,890 Nyfancam01 Nyfancam01	the other looked alright due to nice ink and centering on the sig this card is 100% RUINED.

01-06-2016, 12:14 PM	#19
34JacktheRipper Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 4,387	Yeah, not good IMO.

01-06-2016, 12:42 PM	#22
kyleuk21 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,971 redlegs317 kyleuk21	Having someone write on it is just like trimming it in my opinion. I'm a perfectionist who admires the the rarity and unblemished condition of a 1/1. Any alterations make it unattractive to me. I would hate to see that happen to any of the cards I've been searching for for months, years, etc.

01-06-2016, 12:59 PM	#24
centereacan06 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Long Island Posts: 19,502 centereacan06 centereacan06	Could go either way. Like stated in the last thread, the amount of people who would be interested in buying goes way down, but there may be one or two insane player/team collectors who would pay a ton for it. I personally think it's kind of neat, especially since there are some patches from Topps that were cut from an autographed jersey.

01-06-2016, 01:03 PM	#25
yanksfan0134 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7,017	Who cares, it looks awesome! __________________ http://s699.photobucket.com/albums/vv356/yanksfan0134/