Need Help Identifying an Autograpgh?

mrchipz · 12-21-2015, 12:27 PM

So i know there are a lot of very knowledgeable people on this board and i was wondering if anyone could help me.

My mom worked as a airline assistant back in the 70's and she told me she had met a bunch of famous people in the day and always asked them for autographs. Mostly Actors & Actresses.

As we were going thru her old signed peaces i came across easily recognizable signatures from people like charles bronson, fae dunaway, telly savalas and others. But this one she dont know who it is and either do i.

It look like it says "yours in heart" inscribed? and a name that seams to start with a C? like carello or something but im stumped.

It is dated from 1977 so that person male or female would have been popular enough in those days and easily recognized i would think.

Any Help would be greatly appreciated!

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lobo_hacker · 12-21-2015, 04:35 PM

-Compare the letters in the words you know to the signature.

What's the first name of the person? The letter string after the 'L' looks similar to a letter string in the first name of the signature.

Good luck.

lobo_hacker

ajw9356 · 12-21-2015, 06:32 PM

So this appears to be someone that has a literal sense of writing. They were most likely taught the correct shapes in cursive, ex. b looks like an l with a little loop and extension.
Best I can tell is that
6 or 7 letters in the first name, 9 or 10 letters in the last name?
1st name: Your guess isn't far off from mine
1 - C (most likely first letter)
2 - o (almost certain second letter), mirrors the o in Yours
3 - e (not so sure about this, could be an s that's poorly written)
4 - e or l, but it's tough to tell
5,6 - 2 tall letters, most likely two l but it could be a tl since the swoop comes back to cross them. The other option is the last tall letter is a b, which means there might not be another letter at the end for a 7th.
7? - looks most like an o

Second name: Albertson? Not sure, tough to get anything that resembles a name I've heard of
1- A, not sure it could be much else
2 - l, looks like an l
3 - b, if the last letter in the first name is a b, this could be a b as well, which means the next letter that looks like e, man not be a letter but the loop on the b.
4? - e?, maybe a e if not a b before it
5 - r, looks like an r to me
6 - e, starts to get pretty confusing here to me
7 - if the last letter is an e, the straight vertical line might be an i?
8,9, 10? - then it looks like it could have 2 oo together or two rr together with an e in front of them
I tried to think of any way any of those letters could match up to a name that I've heard, but came up with nothing, so I not sure if that helps at all.
Good luck

Pearce77 · 12-21-2015, 06:49 PM

I've been studying this at times today too. I love a good mystery. Is there any way you can scan this flat OP? What's your mom's first name? The second letter is also the second letter in signer's first name.

The first name first letter could be a C or G. CAREL (r in heart is same) I'm not sure the last letter is a L because the letter before it is def L but the last has a shoulder like an H or K. It's not an O because it doesn't match O in Yours. It also swings back and crosses the two previous letters like a T.

I photoshopped the names so they're easier to read. I'd also post this in Non-Sport, those people probably know older celebs and might not visit the OT section.

JMarchand1981 · 12-21-2015, 09:17 PM

Holy crap this is tough.

sonnyday · 12-21-2015, 09:34 PM

Carmelo Anthony

bblair_2002 · 12-21-2015, 09:38 PM

If it helps anyone,the first letter in the last name looks like a W or an M to me and maybe the first letter in the first name a G? A C would slope right into the next letter and not do a loopdy-loop.

Garrett Morris???

Onions · 12-21-2015, 11:01 PM

Gotta scan this thing flat.

Gotta let us know who is being addressed in order to at least be able to rule in or rule out several letters. To "Lou"? "Lew"? "Lori".....Who?

The inscription is probably the name of a movie or something like that. No way it says "Yours in heart"

Who came up with this cursive garbage in the first place?

mrchipz · 12-21-2015, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pearce77

I've been studying this at times today too. I love a good mystery. Is there any way you can scan this flat OP? What's your mom's first name? The second letter is also the second letter in signer's first name.

The first name first letter could be a C or G. CAREL (r in heart is same) I'm not sure the last letter is a L because the letter before it is def L but the last has a shoulder like an H or K. It's not an O because it doesn't match O in Yours. It also swings back and crosses the two previous letters like a T.

I photoshopped the names so they're easier to read. I'd also post this in Non-Sport, those people probably know older celebs and might not visit the OT section.

Hey thx man my moms name is LuLu but the person wrote Lou. i dont have a scanner but what you did looks awesome. im still super stumped on this one.

mrchipz · 12-21-2015, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

Holy crap this is tough.

Your telling me. out of all the ones she had this is the only one she dont know and i dont know. its been bothering me all day lol. im sure its a singer, actor or actress though since the other autos she had were frank sinatra, telly savalas with a awesome who loves you baby inscription, carrie fisher, charles bronson, fay dunnaway, and billy joel so far. but this one we are stuck. thax for your help though

mrchipz · 12-21-2015, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sonnyday

Carmelo Anthony

lol 1st thing i thought too! haha

mrchipz · 12-21-2015, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Onions

Gotta scan this thing flat.

Gotta let us know who is being addressed in order to at least be able to rule in or rule out several letters. To "Lou"? "Lew"? "Lori".....Who?

The inscription is probably the name of a movie or something like that. No way it says "Yours in heart"

Who came up with this cursive garbage in the first place?

I dont own a scanner. her name is lulu but they wrote Lou.

thx for your help im still stumped by this

ajw9356 · 12-22-2015, 12:33 AM

Closest thing I came up with was Abbott and Costello, not even close.
Chava Alberstein?

possom813 · 12-22-2015, 01:59 AM

People by Last Names: A

List of famous folks by their last names

Miss Lizzy · 12-22-2015, 02:02 AM

I don't know why it made me laugh, but next to Bryan Adams it says "Canadian Rocker".

mrchipz · 12-23-2015, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by possom813

People by Last Names: A

List of famous folks by their last names

Im not even 100% sure the last name starts with an "A" but thx for the help.
im still stumped

Pearce77 · 12-23-2015, 04:41 PM

I looked at 1977 Emmy and Grammy winners lists. The key is to jog your mom's memory - she met the gawd dam person. lol

Cactuspies · 12-23-2015, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Onions

Gotta scan this thing flat.

Gotta let us know who is being addressed in order to at least be able to rule in or rule out several letters. To "Lou"? "Lew"? "Lori".....Who?

The inscription is probably the name of a movie or something like that. No way it says "Yours in heart"

Who came up with this cursive garbage in the first place?

I think it says "yours with respect"

the siggy is making me like the rest of you

corndog · 12-23-2015, 07:38 PM

I am thinking that the last name may start with a W.
The pen doesn't leave the paper from the first name to the last.
I also do not think that the second letter in the "To Lou" is an "o".
The "o" in "To" is distinctly a different stroke than the second letter in the mom's name.

I also suspect that the signer may not be well known since no one can figure it out...

Nicnac · 12-23-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mrchipz

Im not even 100% sure the last name starts with an "A" but thx for the help.
im still stumped

Yah... first letter of last name could be an S and the top part of that letter is confusing the end of the first name... they could be 2 L's and not crossed T's at all...

natbornkiller · 12-23-2015, 07:49 PM

costello alderan

sonnyday · 12-23-2015, 07:59 PM

First letter of the last name is definitely a M in my opinion. I do the same kind of swirl before my M in my last name. I am think it's a male if the last letter in the first name is an O.

KevJo · 12-23-2015, 08:02 PM

The last name looks like it starts with an S not an A. Looks like Sil... something.

Kevin

Hess687 · 12-23-2015, 08:05 PM

Okay let's throw out some initials here.

I'm ruling out "CW" because the closest thing I came to that was Cornell Warner and that's not his auto.

sonnyday · 12-23-2015, 08:08 PM

It was probably some drunk airline passenger messing with your mom telling her he was famous.

12-21-2015, 12:27 PM	#1
mrchipz Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,804	Need Help Identifying an Autograpgh? So i know there are a lot of very knowledgeable people on this board and i was wondering if anyone could help me. My mom worked as a airline assistant back in the 70's and she told me she had met a bunch of famous people in the day and always asked them for autographs. Mostly Actors & Actresses. As we were going thru her old signed peaces i came across easily recognizable signatures from people like charles bronson, fae dunaway, telly savalas and others. But this one she dont know who it is and either do i. It look like it says "yours in heart" inscribed? and a name that seams to start with a C? like carello or something but im stumped. It is dated from 1977 so that person male or female would have been popular enough in those days and easily recognized i would think. Any Help would be greatly appreciated! [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] __________________ Currently Collecting - Anthony Volpe

12-21-2015, 06:32 PM	#3
ajw9356 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 3,139 ajws9356 ajw9356	So this appears to be someone that has a literal sense of writing. They were most likely taught the correct shapes in cursive, ex. b looks like an l with a little loop and extension. Best I can tell is that 6 or 7 letters in the first name, 9 or 10 letters in the last name? 1st name: Your guess isn't far off from mine 1 - C (most likely first letter) 2 - o (almost certain second letter), mirrors the o in Yours 3 - e (not so sure about this, could be an s that's poorly written) 4 - e or l, but it's tough to tell 5,6 - 2 tall letters, most likely two l but it could be a tl since the swoop comes back to cross them. The other option is the last tall letter is a b, which means there might not be another letter at the end for a 7th. 7? - looks most like an o Second name: Albertson? Not sure, tough to get anything that resembles a name I've heard of 1- A, not sure it could be much else 2 - l, looks like an l 3 - b, if the last letter in the first name is a b, this could be a b as well, which means the next letter that looks like e, man not be a letter but the loop on the b. 4? - e?, maybe a e if not a b before it 5 - r, looks like an r to me 6 - e, starts to get pretty confusing here to me 7 - if the last letter is an e, the straight vertical line might be an i? 8,9, 10? - then it looks like it could have 2 oo together or two rr together with an e in front of them I tried to think of any way any of those letters could match up to a name that I've heard, but came up with nothing, so I not sure if that helps at all. Good luck __________________ I collect: Kansas State, Darren Sproles, Jordy Nelson, Royals, Hosmer, Pujols, Chiefs, Saints, Jimmy Graham, QBs and other random stuff. Thanks, James Bucket: http://s1095.photobucket.com/albums/i471/ajw9356/

12-21-2015, 06:49 PM	#4
Pearce77 Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 10,016	I've been studying this at times today too. I love a good mystery. Is there any way you can scan this flat OP? What's your mom's first name? The second letter is also the second letter in signer's first name. The first name first letter could be a C or G. CAREL (r in heart is same) I'm not sure the last letter is a L because the letter before it is def L but the last has a shoulder like an H or K. It's not an O because it doesn't match O in Yours. It also swings back and crosses the two previous letters like a T. I photoshopped the names so they're easier to read. I'd also post this in Non-Sport, those people probably know older celebs and might not visit the OT section. Last edited by Pearce77; 12-21-2015 at 07:52 PM.

12-21-2015, 09:38 PM	#7
bblair_2002 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Plain,NY Posts: 2,871 hitman73	If it helps anyone,the first letter in the last name looks like a W or an M to me and maybe the first letter in the first name a G? A C would slope right into the next letter and not do a loopdy-loop. Garrett Morris??? __________________ 20 year collector of Albert Pujols and I build parallel sets. Last edited by bblair_2002; 12-21-2015 at 09:44 PM.

12-22-2015, 12:33 AM	#13
ajw9356 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 3,139 ajws9356 ajw9356	Closest thing I came up with was Abbott and Costello, not even close. Chava Alberstein? __________________ I collect: Kansas State, Darren Sproles, Jordy Nelson, Royals, Hosmer, Pujols, Chiefs, Saints, Jimmy Graham, QBs and other random stuff. Thanks, James Bucket: http://s1095.photobucket.com/albums/i471/ajw9356/ Last edited by ajw9356; 12-22-2015 at 12:59 AM.

12-21-2015, 04:35 PM	#2
lobo_hacker Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,581	-Compare the letters in the words you know to the signature. What's the first name of the person? The letter string after the 'L' looks similar to a letter string in the first name of the signature. Good luck. lobo_hacker

12-21-2015, 09:17 PM	#5
JMarchand1981 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 34,440	Holy crap this is tough.

12-21-2015, 09:34 PM	#6
sonnyday Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cleeeevelaaaaand Posts: 2,722 Sonnyday	Carmelo Anthony

12-21-2015, 11:01 PM	#8
Onions Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,220 onion99	Gotta scan this thing flat. Gotta let us know who is being addressed in order to at least be able to rule in or rule out several letters. To "Lou"? "Lew"? "Lori".....Who? The inscription is probably the name of a movie or something like that. No way it says "Yours in heart" Who came up with this cursive garbage in the first place?

12-22-2015, 01:59 AM	#14
possom813 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cayuga, TX Posts: 2,317 punkin46 possom813	People by Last Names: A List of famous folks by their last names

12-22-2015, 02:02 AM	#15
Miss Lizzy Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: The Mighty Mojave Desert Posts: 3,191 misslizzy1978 MissLizzy	I don't know why it made me laugh, but next to Bryan Adams it says "Canadian Rocker".

12-23-2015, 04:41 PM	#17
Pearce77 Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 10,016	I looked at 1977 Emmy and Grammy winners lists. The key is to jog your mom's memory - she met the gawd dam person. lol

12-23-2015, 07:38 PM	#19
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 16,813	I am thinking that the last name may start with a W. The pen doesn't leave the paper from the first name to the last. I also do not think that the second letter in the "To Lou" is an "o". The "o" in "To" is distinctly a different stroke than the second letter in the mom's name. I also suspect that the signer may not be well known since no one can figure it out... __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

12-23-2015, 07:49 PM	#21
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,789	costello alderan __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit:

12-23-2015, 07:59 PM	#22
sonnyday Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cleeeevelaaaaand Posts: 2,722 Sonnyday	First letter of the last name is definitely a M in my opinion. I do the same kind of swirl before my M in my last name. I am think it's a male if the last letter in the first name is an O.

12-23-2015, 08:02 PM	#23
KevJo Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 11,411	The last name looks like it starts with an S not an A. Looks like Sil... something. Kevin __________________ "By any means"- Khalil Mack

12-23-2015, 08:05 PM	#24
Hess687 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,666 hess687	Okay let's throw out some initials here. I'm ruling out "CW" because the closest thing I came to that was Cornell Warner and that's not his auto.

12-23-2015, 08:08 PM	#25
sonnyday Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cleeeevelaaaaand Posts: 2,722 Sonnyday	It was probably some drunk airline passenger messing with your mom telling her he was famous.