Hasselbeck Proving Luck is Overrated?

mattfastiggi · 11-29-2015, 10:57 PM

4-0 taking the start. Obviously he's not as "dynamic" as Luck, but are we seeing that it's more of the "IND making Luck's success vs. Luck making IND's success?"

Granted, I like the guy, and root for him from time to time, but I don't see him in the Elite group that maybe others do.

Just my opinion.

Bars and Bar · 11-29-2015, 10:58 PM

He is the MVP in my book

dherm360 · 11-29-2015, 10:59 PM

They did the same thing with Peyton too damn them

nera20 · 11-29-2015, 11:00 PM

Hasselbeck has always been a solid qb, Luck still has a lot to prove hes a solid quarterback but still has a lot to work on

HBMC · 11-29-2015, 11:00 PM

Matt Hasselbeck isn't pressing, is playing inside of their offense and is doing what any savvy vet would be doing.

Coventry6546 · 11-29-2015, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mattfastiggi

4-0 taking the start. Obviously he's not as "dynamic" as Luck, but are we seeing that it's more of the "IND making Luck's success vs. Luck making IND's success?"

Granted, I like the guy, and root for him from time to time, but I don't see him in the Elite group that maybe others do.

Just my opinion.

I am sure similar opinions were being formed during Cam Newtons Sophomore year...

blackandgold · 11-29-2015, 11:01 PM

If Luck becomes available via trade how many teams do you think would be calling for his services?

HBMC · 11-29-2015, 11:02 PM

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If Luck becomes available via trade how many teams do you think would be calling for his services?

All of them with any question whatsoever at the position. Basically most of the league.

blackandgold · 11-29-2015, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HBMC

All of them with any question whatsoever at the position. Basically most of the league.

Ding Ding Ding Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!!!

FBallHobbies · 11-29-2015, 11:32 PM

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Ding Ding Ding Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!!!

I would only say half. If you look at it Oakland, Seattle, Arizona, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Cincinatti, Baltimore, Green Bay, New England, Atlanta, Carolina, Kansas City are teams that have a young QB to build around or a proven talent, or overpaid a guy to be their signal caller so they do not need him.

Every other team is in the air really. Cleveland would trade all of next years picks to get him, and maybe Josh Gordon comes off his suspension in shape. Who knows

HBMC · 11-29-2015, 11:34 PM

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I would only say half. If you look at it Oakland, Seattle, Arizona, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Cincinatti, Baltimore, Green Bay, New England, Atlanta, Carolina, Kansas City are teams that have a young QB to build around or a proven talent, or overpaid a guy to be their signal caller so they do not need him.

Just because those teams paid money doesn't mean they'll try to improve. KC would cut off their nuts to get Andrew Luck.

FBallHobbies · 11-29-2015, 11:37 PM

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Just because those teams paid money doesn't mean they'll try to improve. KC would cut off their nuts to get Andrew Luck.

For the best chance to win, why not Alex. He hasn't thrown a pick in 8 games. Without Charles, KC can still effectively run the ball and have a solid D.

I think Luck wold put them in worse spots in games than he should. He takes too many chances. He throws a lot of picks

ksmith31 · 11-30-2015, 12:02 AM

When Hasselbeck is in they call quick passes a lot of the time.

When Luck is in they call deep routes almost every pass and he has to hold it. Plus he is not elite when it comes to accuracy.

They need to use the Hasselbeck game plan when Luck is in and he would play a lot better.

krav4747 · 11-30-2015, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FBallHobbies

For the best chance to win, why not Alex. He hasn't thrown a pick in 8 games. Without Charles, KC can still effectively run the ball and have a solid D.

I think Luck wold put them in worse spots in games than he should. He takes too many chances. He throws a lot of picks

Alex Smith plays solid football and is ok for the system they are trying to run. In the long run you think Alex Smith gives the Chiefs a better chance to be relevant than Andrew Luck if he were to be available?

pejc300 · 11-30-2015, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mattfastiggi

4-0 taking the start. Obviously he's not as "dynamic" as Luck, but are we seeing that it's more of the "IND making Luck's success vs. Luck making IND's success?"

Granted, I like the guy, and root for him from time to time, but I don't see him in the Elite group that maybe others do.

Just my opinion.

Wait, Hasselbeck is 4-0? That's impossible because according to every Indy homer the Colts could not possibly win with "the worst O-line and no weapons" in the league...that was with Luck at QB of course...

sjim8660 · 11-30-2015, 12:41 AM

I said this before and as the season gets closer to the end, would Indy trade Luck for the right offer? A team like Dallas could easily have a top 5 1st rounder to offer. Indy could panic and think Luck won't be as good as they thought and do they want to give him a big contract?

88horsepower · 11-30-2015, 12:49 AM

Luck isn't going anywhere.

Jay9Suited · 11-30-2015, 01:05 AM

I hope Luck is taking notes from the sidelines.. Who knows, his injuries could be blessings in disguise.

88horsepower · 11-30-2015, 01:17 AM

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I hope Luck is taking notes from the sidelines.. Who knows, his injuries could be blessings in disguise.

I think it is. The new OC should also be taking notes. Indy's line isn't good enough to protect on a constant barrage of intermediate to deep routes. The quicker the QB can get the ball out, the better it is for everyone involved. The QB minimizes getting hit because he has enough time to throw. The receivers are quick enough to turn the short passes into big gainers. It's how things should have been from the start. Luck needs to take what defense gives him and make intelligent decisions.

Seahawks fan · 11-30-2015, 01:43 AM

I do think the Colts should leave in Hass when Luck gets better.. no reason to pull a 4-0 VET QB for a injury recovering 2-5 QB.

88horsepower · 11-30-2015, 02:17 AM

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I do think the Colts should leave in Hass when Luck gets better.. no reason to pull a 4-0 VET QB for a injury recovering 2-5 QB.

I completely agree. They should not rush him back.

blackandgold · 11-30-2015, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sjim8660

I said this before and as the season gets closer to the end, would Indy trade Luck for the right offer? A team like Dallas could easily have a top 5 1st rounder to offer. Indy could panic and think Luck won't be as good as they thought and do they want to give him a big contract?

I think you are better suited for the wrestling forum lol No chance Indy even considers this at least for a couple more years

rletlow · 11-30-2015, 07:08 AM

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I am sure similar opinions were being formed during Cam Newtons Sophomore year...

I believe this is Lucks 4th year, not 2nd........

FBallHobbies · 11-30-2015, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by krav4747

Alex Smith plays solid football and is ok for the system they are trying to run. In the long run you think Alex Smith gives the Chiefs a better chance to be relevant than Andrew Luck if he were to be available?

Not at all

Skootown · 11-30-2015, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sjim8660

I said this before and as the season gets closer to the end, would Indy trade Luck for the right offer? A team like Dallas could easily have a top 5 1st rounder to offer. Indy could panic and think Luck won't be as good as they thought and do they want to give him a big contract?

LOL. Not in a million years.

Sorry, you're stuck with Romo.

11-29-2015, 10:57 PM	#1
mattfastiggi Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 276	Hasselbeck Proving Luck is Overrated? 4-0 taking the start. Obviously he's not as "dynamic" as Luck, but are we seeing that it's more of the "IND making Luck's success vs. Luck making IND's success?" Granted, I like the guy, and root for him from time to time, but I don't see him in the Elite group that maybe others do. Just my opinion.

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ksmith31 Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,568	When Hasselbeck is in they call quick passes a lot of the time. When Luck is in they call deep routes almost every pass and he has to hold it. Plus he is not elite when it comes to accuracy. They need to use the Hasselbeck game plan when Luck is in and he would play a lot better.

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sjim8660 Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: TN Posts: 3,691	I said this before and as the season gets closer to the end, would Indy trade Luck for the right offer? A team like Dallas could easily have a top 5 1st rounder to offer. Indy could panic and think Luck won't be as good as they thought and do they want to give him a big contract?

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88horsepower Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Somewhere In Time Posts: 23,877	Luck isn't going anywhere.

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Jay9Suited Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,266	I hope Luck is taking notes from the sidelines.. Who knows, his injuries could be blessings in disguise.