Protector/no protector price difference on 98 finest refractors

jbrandonw · 10-09-2015, 10:18 PM

Just curious because I'm looking into getting a Dirk rookie from that set. Say one with the protector sells for $25. Does one without it sell for a little less? Or is there not much of a difference?

CubKings · 10-10-2015, 12:40 AM

I would assume most collectors want the film on it, so I could see one going less than one with the protector.

tacoma34 · 10-10-2015, 12:45 AM

Never understood why people like the cover, it really detracts from the card. I always remove them.

jbrandonw · 10-10-2015, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tacoma34

Never understood why people like the cover, it really detracts from the card. I always remove them.

I'm with you on that, but really trying to decide on a fair offer on one without protector when one with protector sold for $25. Is $20 about right?

tacoma34 · 10-10-2015, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrandonw

I'm with you on that, but really trying to decide on a fair offer on one without protector when one with protector sold for $25. Is $20 about right?

Well depends on what you want do with it. I have bought two 1999 Finest gold refractors with the peel on. I removed both and then sent in for grading, one was graded a PSA 10 and the other a BGS 10. So the peel might help to protect the card and ensure a better surface grade if you were to remove it.

Force Majeure · 10-10-2015, 02:21 AM

There are Finest protector refractor cards and Finest no protector refractor cards in 98/99 Finest. The no protector reafractors have, as the name indicates, no protector film on the card front and they differ from the protector refractors because they also have the refractor thing on the back of the card, the protector refractors are refractors on the front only.

98/99 Finest protector refrarctors 1:12 packs
98/99 Finest no protector refarctors 1:24 packs

Besides that, if the card has a protector film on it, I only buy or trade for cards that have the film. Gradet cards often miss the film because you can expect higher grades for the surface.

AbraCalabro · 10-10-2015, 05:12 AM

If you end up looking at a card with no coating on it, make sure you pay less than one with coating.

Personally, cards lacking the protective coating might as well be toilet paper.

SteveO21 · 10-10-2015, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Force Majeure

There are Finest protector refractor cards and Finest no protector refractor cards in 98/99 Finest. The no protector reafractors have, as the name indicates, no protector film on the card front and they differ from the protector refractors because they also have the refractor thing on the back of the card, the protector refractors are refractors on the front only.

98/99 Finest protector refrarctors 1:12 packs
98/99 Finest no protector refarctors 1:24 packs

Besides that, if the card has a protector film on it, I only buy or trade for cards that have the film. Gradet cards often miss the film because you can expect higher grades for the surface.

Thanks for the info. I consider myself a 90's collector and was unaware of this.

jbrandonw · 10-11-2015, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Force Majeure

There are Finest protector refractor cards and Finest no protector refractor cards in 98/99 Finest. The no protector reafractors have, as the name indicates, no protector film on the card front and they differ from the protector refractors because they also have the refractor thing on the back of the card, the protector refractors are refractors on the front only.

98/99 Finest protector refrarctors 1:12 packs
98/99 Finest no protector refarctors 1:24 packs

Besides that, if the card has a protector film on it, I only buy or trade for cards that have the film. Gradet cards often miss the film because you can expect higher grades for the surface.

Yeah this one is refractor front and back. So it never had a protector on it in the first place? And is actually rarer than the ones that came with protectors? So does that make it worth more?

xavieronly1 · 10-11-2015, 01:48 PM

It makes sense to worth more, but it does not mean it will always reflect in the selling price, particularly in auction. In the end, we are talking about a $20 card. One can easily bid extra $20 just because he/she wants it for the last piece of the set or for the rainbow.

rynobot · 10-11-2015, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

If you end up looking at a card with no coating on it, make sure you pay less than one with coating.

Personally, cards lacking the protective coating might as well be toilet paper.

Yeah because collectors do not try to protect cards after removing the film.

duron · 10-12-2015, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rynobot

Yeah because collectors do not try to protect cards after removing the film.

That's not the point at all. Many collectors want Finest cards in their original form, irrespective of what they may grade.

jbrandonw · 10-12-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by duron

That's not the point at all. Many collectors want Finest cards in their original form, irrespective of what they may grade.

Come to find out it never had a protector on it I'm the first place.

duron · 10-12-2015, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrandonw

Come to find out it never had a protector on it I'm the first place.

Yea I noticed your post.

Did the box topper refractors from this year's Finest have both versions as well?

buckunteer · 10-12-2015, 03:25 PM

Force Majeure up there is correct. This was the first (and only) year there was this distinction.

jbrandonw · 10-12-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by duron

Yea I noticed your post.

Did the box topper refractors from this year's Finest have both versions as well?

I don't have a clue man.

kukocitb · 10-12-2015, 04:12 PM

Hopefully this helps. There are 4 versions of the base card:

Finest with protector
Finest without protector (refractor type back)
Finest refractor with Protector
Finest refractor without protector (refractor type back)

duron · 10-12-2015, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kukocitb

Hopefully this helps. There are 4 versions of the base card:

Finest with protector
Finest without protector (refractor type back)
Finest refractor with Protector
Finest refractor without protector (refractor type back)

Indeed, but what about the box toppers?

kukocitb · 10-12-2015, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by duron

Indeed, but what about the box toppers?

I know nothing about the box toppers unfortunately. I do not think Kukoc has one. They are bigger then base cards right?

abbottbowden28 · 10-12-2015, 04:37 PM

Always been curious about that also

duron · 10-12-2015, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kukocitb

I know nothing about the box toppers unfortunately. I do not think Kukoc has one. They are bigger then base cards right?

Yea they're a bit larger than a normal card, I got a Kobe refractor in a box when they came out, still have it (with coating). Just curious about all possible variations.

AbraCalabro · 10-12-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rynobot

Yeah because collectors do not try to protect cards after removing the film.

Really? Oh man, thanks for clarifying. Really sucks when something goes WAY over your head, you know?

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Originally Posted by duron

That's not the point at all. Many collectors want Finest cards in their original form, irrespective of what they may grade.

Thank you.

rynobot · 10-13-2015, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

Really? Oh man, thanks for clarifying. Really sucks when something goes WAY over your head, you know?

Thank you.

I guess having the ugly film on the card is fine if all you are going to do with it is shove the card in a box forever. I never liked the film because it detracted from the beauty of the cards. But all is good.

csrockerzero · 10-13-2015, 10:13 AM

Box topper is available in all versions as well. I busted about 3 cases of these a few years ago and was able to pull a couple Refractors as well as a No Protector. I don't think that I pulled any No Protector Refractor box toppers, but I know that they exist.

SHowley2003 · 10-13-2015, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by csrockerzero

Box topper is available in all versions as well. I busted about 3 cases of these a few years ago and was able to pull a couple Refractors as well as a No Protector. I don't think that I pulled any No Protector Refractor box toppers, but I know that they exist.

I don't think this is true. The boxtoppers are a 14 card oversized set with only a base version and a refractor version. I've been chasing the refractor set for a year now and have never seen a no-protector version. They are similar to all inserts from 98-99 Finest which only have base and refractor versions.

That being said if anyone has a refractor boxtopper and wants to get rid of it please let me know! I'm also chasing the court control refractor insert set. I love 98-99 Finest and I love refractors.

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jbrandonw Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,351 Jbrandonw	Protector/no protector price difference on 98 finest refractors Just curious because I'm looking into getting a Dirk rookie from that set. Say one with the protector sells for $25. Does one without it sell for a little less? Or is there not much of a difference? __________________ I collect mainly Dallas Mavericks. Especially Dirk, Luka, and the 2011 championship guys.

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Force Majeure Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 86 slamdunk_de	There are Finest protector refractor cards and Finest no protector refractor cards in 98/99 Finest. The no protector reafractors have, as the name indicates, no protector film on the card front and they differ from the protector refractors because they also have the refractor thing on the back of the card, the protector refractors are refractors on the front only. 98/99 Finest protector refrarctors 1:12 packs 98/99 Finest no protector refarctors 1:24 packs Besides that, if the card has a protector film on it, I only buy or trade for cards that have the film. Gradet cards often miss the film because you can expect higher grades for the surface. __________________ Be locust or alone Collecting: Marcus Camby/Ron Mercer/Xavier Mcdaniel/Michael Sam

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csrockerzero Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,408 chromatic_cards	Box topper is available in all versions as well. I busted about 3 cases of these a few years ago and was able to pull a couple Refractors as well as a No Protector. I don't think that I pulled any No Protector Refractor box toppers, but I know that they exist. __________________ IG: chromatic_cards https://myslabs.to/chromatic_cards